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RE: HLA ON FIRE?!
« Reply #45 on: May 27, 2007, 11:24:39 AM »
There is a back-up server off campus, but they're not sure if it replicated before the fire. That server has all of the students' grades and other important records so they can't say everything was destroyed.

Were there working smoke detectors at the time of the fire? If so, how could the night security not have heard those going off? Do any of those building have sprinkler systems? Does Georgia require sprinkler systems?

Why/how was the building 90% engulfed by the time the fire department arrived?


Why did the someone call in Christy Lynn Jones' tag number? Listen to this feed from 2:11 - 2:26 a.m. - at about 2:25 a.m. someone calls in her tag number for verification. Doesn't she live in Dawsonsville? Was her car damaged in the fire?

http://www.scanlumpkin.com/modules.php? ... &year=2007
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« Reply #46 on: May 27, 2007, 01:30:34 PM »
I don't think those feeds only include recordings from the HLA fire. I listened to 4 or 5 feeds after the initial call and heard other things not related to the fire. I am not sure the call in for the tag was related to the fire, but it might have been.The 911 recordings aren't particularly active at 2 am in a rural county such as Lumpkin. So I think those feeds are all activity logged for those time periods, not just HLA fire calls.
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RE: HLA ON FIRE?!
« Reply #47 on: May 27, 2007, 02:01:59 PM »
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THE ROOF!

THE ROOF!

THE ROOF IS ON FIRE!

We don't need no water, let the motherfucker BURN!!!


LOL... fuck yeah!
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RE: HLA ON FIRE?!
« Reply #48 on: May 27, 2007, 02:06:24 PM »
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1.5 million in insurance money is not enough to keep them afloat


Yes.. but this "tragedy" *cough* is enough to ask for donations from local churches, parents etc...  I would bet money that they will play the "poor me" angle, to use a program expression.
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RE: HLA ON FIRE?!
« Reply #49 on: May 27, 2007, 04:14:33 PM »
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There is a back-up server off campus, but they're not sure if it replicated before the fire. That server has all of the students' grades and other important records so they can't say everything was destroyed.

Were there working smoke detectors at the time of the fire? If so, how could the night security not have heard those going off? Do any of those building have sprinkler systems? Does Georgia require sprinkler systems?

Why/how was the building 90% engulfed by the time the fire department arrived?


Why did the someone call in Christy Lynn Jones' tag number? Listen to this feed from 2:11 - 2:26 a.m. - at about 2:25 a.m. someone calls in her tag number for verification. Doesn't she live in Dawsonsville? Was her car damaged in the fire?

http://www.scanlumpkin.com/modules.php? ... &year=2007


The radio feed contains all radio traffic for the county, Fire Sheriff, and NGCSU-Campus Police,
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RE: HLA ON FIRE?!
« Reply #50 on: May 27, 2007, 09:50:40 PM »
How are they supposed to resume classes when there is no running water in the dorms? How can they possibly get that repaired before the students return?

Are the insurance premiums paid up? If not, how can the collect insurance money?

How does this affect the lawsuit against HLA? Is the insurance company aware of the lawsuit?
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RE: HLA ON FIRE?!
« Reply #51 on: May 27, 2007, 10:10:22 PM »
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How are they supposed to resume classes when there is no running water in the dorms? How can they possibly get that repaired before the students return?

Are the insurance premiums paid up? If not, how can the collect insurance money?

How does this affect the lawsuit against HLA? Is the insurance company aware of the lawsuit?


If I were an Evil program director, this is what I would have done... not that it happened.  (please don't sue me, Len, you prick)

I would have been very lax on security with the kids the night of the fire, "letting" them escape around the campus with cigarettes and a lighter, left unattended where they could easily get away with it.  That way, when I torched the place, there would be a good scapegoat when the fire dept figures out it was arson.  (Fuckin kids... stole cigarettes, burned the whole building down).  Now we all know that in program, you confess to things you didn't do, given enough pressure, and if other students knew who was absent at the time of the fire, and knew what they were doing...  "Jimmy and Frank were smoking..."...  Jimmy and Frank are then in a real shitty situation.

I bet you, they find out it is arson, but find a way to blame one of the kids.  I hope, in that case, there is a real, real, good investigator looking into the facts of the fire.  I doubt, however, that will be the case...   I would suggest people start contacting the fire department and telling them about Len's really good motive (hypothetically) to torch the place.
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RE: HLA ON FIRE?!
« Reply #52 on: May 28, 2007, 09:54:58 AM »
IF the security cameras were working it should be pretty easy to prove whether a student got out in the middle of the night....
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RE: HLA ON FIRE?!
« Reply #53 on: May 28, 2007, 12:01:59 PM »
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How are they supposed to resume classes when there is no running water in the dorms? How can they possibly get that repaired before the students return?

Are the insurance premiums paid up? If not, how can the collect insurance money?

How does this affect the lawsuit against HLA? Is the insurance company aware of the lawsuit?


The children are use to no running water, remember?

According to a source,'' there is no property insurance,
because the 'owner' let it lapse".  So, it doesn't make any
sense...
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RE: HLA ON FIRE?!
« Reply #54 on: May 28, 2007, 01:11:44 PM »
Maybe someone who hates the school set it on fire.
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RE: HLA ON FIRE?!
« Reply #55 on: May 28, 2007, 02:02:49 PM »
Well that narrows it down to about a thousand people....   :roll:
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« Reply #56 on: May 28, 2007, 02:03:03 PM »
I never witnessed a fire drill while I worked there. Glad to hear no one was hurt...staff who leave HLA still think about the kids:-) There were some serious safety concerns present years ago...yes the staff need to prevent late-night escapes, etc but those kids have got to safe in the event of a fire.
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RE: HLA ON FIRE?!
« Reply #57 on: May 28, 2007, 04:06:09 PM »
Wouldn't the Academic, Administration, and Cafeteria buildings be locked at night? Who has access to them at 2am?
Did the building have a sprinkler system?
Smoke detectors?
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RE: HLA ON FIRE?!
« Reply #58 on: May 28, 2007, 09:02:14 PM »
As far as I can remember, the building has no sprinklers. The new building has none too, as I remember. The buildings had fire alarms, but remember, Lennie has the keys to the fire control box. Who says you can't just silence the alarms?
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RE: HLA ON FIRE?!
« Reply #59 on: May 29, 2007, 12:12:49 AM »
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Glad to hear no one was hurt...staff who leave HLA still think about the kids:-)


Maybe, but that's neither here nor there, as the fire wasn't set by anyone leaving HLA, it was set by someone working for Len Buccellato.

Don't pretend otherwise.
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