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Michael Kincheloe:
You think I'm dishonest and a fraud? Whao cares what you think? Fuck you and the slut you're married to.

What good would it have done to tell someone what Randy said my very first week at Shafter? It was just he and I; there were no witnesses. I didn't even know who Rod Tidwell was until I was at fire camp a month later, when pinche bruja Christie Luna said "Rod Tidwell said hello." Who is that? "He's the director." Oh. I thought Ruben Heredia was the director. Rod wasn't involved in the day-to-day activities, just as Dennis Griffith was rarely seen at Riverside.  

I ran? From your punk ass? I ignored you. I don't have to answer shit to a take-it-in-the-ass punk bitch like you. If you want to call me a liar and a fraud to my face, look me up in the Visalia directory and name the time and place. If you want to talk to someone at Teen Challenge who knew me, talk to Stan Williams. He knew Ahmed Morris and detested him; no other staff members liked him either, because he bullied others while hiding behind the skirts of Teen Challenge. You can bet if I saw him on the street he'd be really nice to me, but I'd spit in face and call him a cocksucker, and it'd be on.

Firebird81:

--- Quote from: ""Michael Kincheloe"" ---You think I'm dishonest and a fraud? Whao cares what you think? Fuck you and the slut you're married to.

What good would it have done to tell someone what Randy said my very first week at Shafter? It was just he and I; there were no witnesses. I didn't even know who Rod Tidwell was until I was at fire camp a month later, when pinche bruja Christie Luna said "Rod Tidwell said hello." Who is that? "He's the director." Oh. I thought Ruben Heredia was the director. Rod wasn't involved in the day-to-day activities, just as Dennis Griffith was rarely seen at Riverside.  

I ran? From your punk ass? I ignored you. I don't have to answer shit to a take-it-in-the-ass punk bitch like you. If you want to call me a liar and a fraud to my face, look me up in the Visalia directory and name the time and place. If you want to talk to someone at Teen Challenge who knew me, talk to Stan Williams. He knew Ahmed Morris and detested him; no other staff members liked him either, because he bullied others while hiding behind the skirts of Teen Challenge. You can bet if I saw him on the street he'd be really nice to me, but I'd spit in face and call him a cocksucker, and it'd be on.
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Sadly, I am not the least bit surprised by your juvenile outburst. It's also becoming very clear exactly why you had problems in Teen Challenge. No ,you don't have to answer any of my questions, but here's a little news flash for you. When you choose to use a public forum to voice an opinion, then you should not only expect people to challenge that opinion, you should be prepared to back it up. If you instead resort to name calling and threats, then you merely come off looking like you were full of it the entire time. So, it's your choice, Michael. Because I am not going to let up.

Concerning Randy threatening you, are you trying to tell me that a college educated individual like yourself isn't intelligent enough to know there's something wrong with that and it should be reported? If he had threatened you, he would have been dismissed. And you owed it to anyone else who he might harm or threaten in the future to expose it when it happened.

I will repost all of my questions again. If your positions hold any weight, you will back them up. And don't try to act like a tough guy, Michael. A man who hides for a year in a program to avoid a year in county jail isn't tough.

Michael Kincheloe:
I have answered all of your questions. If you lack the ability to understand these answers, that's your misfortune.

Your Monday morning quarterbacking is just that, since you never spent any time at Shafter as a "student," therefore you have no knowledge of what really goes on there. All induction centers are not the same.

Why do you hide behind a screen name? Don't you have the balls to put your real name out there? Yet you call ME a fraud, demanding this and that from myself, Karly, and others. Well, you can demand with one hand, and shit in the other, and see which one fills up fastest. The site is going to stay right where it is, and there's nothing you can do about it except complain on these boards, hiding behind a pseudonym.

Michael Kincheloe:
A man who hides for a year in a program to avoid a year in county jail isn't tough.
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He's smart. A man who is afraid to post his real name when challenged to do so is a coward.

Firebird81:

--- Quote from: ""Michael Kincheloe"" ---A man who hides for a year in a program to avoid a year in county jail isn't tough.
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He's smart. A man who is afraid to post his real name when challenged to do so is a coward.
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What is your obsession with my name? I already told you, you don't know me.

Keep puffing your chest up, Michael. Every post you make I see exactly the person I first thought you were. I fyou were going to spit in someone's face you would have done it when they offended you. You are nothing but an immature little boy hiding in a man's body.

Yes, you are a fraud. You entered a program under fraudulent circumstances, remained in that program under fraudulent circumstances, had no intention of trying that program, just used it to stay out of jail ( like all tough guys, do, right, Michael?), celebrated completing it by getting drunk, and then 3 years later created a website to attack that program, declaring that it doesn't work because you got drunk the first day afterward, when you had no intention of quitting to begin with. You then presented yourself as representing all fo the people who had suffered at the hands of that program, as if you had an S on your chest.  You are a fraud.

I asked you a number of questions on your topix.net thread and you ran. You have yet to answer those questions. When I asked them over there you reacted the same way you have here. You puffed out your chest and screamed insults. "we're playing by MY rules now". Isn't that what you said? You can't stand being challenged without resorting to empty threats. AM I to believe you spent an entire year with people in your face threatening violence and worse and just took it? Like I said--a fraud.

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