Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Facility Question and Answers
three springs of NC
nimdA:
Both mnbh and myself are former Three Springs employees.
Your child at best will be able to see the onsite therapist maybe once a month. Perhaps for 20 minutes at a time. Mostly they see the pyschologist to ascertain if the child's medication needs to be adjusted. Abuse is handled in group, and under certain circumstances in a speciality group. I can't speak for North Carolina, but in the facility I was employed this group for abuse issues was moderated by two people with no actual formal training.
Substance abuse issues will be handled with a AA/NA style of treatment. At PRVB's it proved to be very unsuccessful given the rate of relapses amongst graduates of the program.
Groups are supervised by a person with 100 hours of training and any sort of Bachelor's degree. Child care experience is considered a bonus. The 100 hours of training is practically useless and it pays scant attention to key points like verbal de-escalation, group process, and maintaining standards of the program. Most counselors that came to my group from training were useless until I trained them myself. That is if they stayed.
Your child who is probably suffering from all sorts of abandonment issues is going all his worst fears of you abandoning him confirmed. In your child's mind he is expecting you to do more of the same that has happened to him. I strongly suggest you avoid a TBS program as his psychological needs will not be addressed in any shape way or form. He will be broken down, shuffled around, and have himself remade into a program drone. That fire he has in his eyes is going to be extinguished and he will come back to you a barren husk of humanity.
If you think this is absurd ranting I promise you it isn't. I know it is true because I helped the process.
Another thing this if fornits. If you don't like who responds to your questions take them elsewhere. I moderate this specific board with the expectation that all are welcome to participate with the exception of one person, The moron known as the Who, providing they contribute in an appropriate manner.
I make the decisions here as to what is appropriate.
If that is to much for you then take a few minutes to think about it. Your frustrations regarding it will be nothing compared to the frustrations you are going to heap on your kid.
captv:
Three Springs Waygookin
so...where do they have a program that is worth a hoot and will actually address his issues.....
We have had him evaluated over the years and the problems are not going away, they are getting worse and the family relationship damage is growing exponentially...by the day
It is all well and good but . . . if it was YOUR kid in therapy for over 8 years...tried different approaches and different doctors . .
where do you go to help them to drink from the water you have led them to that they refuse to drink from themselves.
What resources would you tap into to help your child be able to function like every other kid out there??
thanks
nimdA:
Would a doctor give you a diagnosis over the phone based on a few conversations?
Of course not.
I'm no medical professional, but I do know what programs are like beings that I worked in two of them. I haven't the faintest clue what will work for your child, but I'm pretty certain what won't work.
My wild assed guess says your kid's problems aren't going to go away.
Time
Patience
and love
He may have been in therapy for 8 years, but during that time wasn't he having man after man bouncing him around like a beach ball for entertainment?
I hate to tell you this but there is no easy answer for this sort of problem. No facility is going to help your son learn to trust people again.
Have you considered why he acts the way he does?
I think you may need to consider that sending him away may well do more harm than trying to provide a stable home for him. Yes it might be a few years of hell, but at least you won't be the next in a long chain of losers that has shat all of your child. Kid's remember things like that.
I know you are scared of your son ending up in a detention center, but try to remember that a detention center for the most part runs the same sort of mind twisting program that you would end up paying for on your own. Though at least in the case of a detention center you child will have some sort of legal representation and protection.
The same can't be said for programs.
In programs I've witnessed abuse against residents.
I've dealt with residents abusing each other.
Residents have been sexually abused by staff and each other.
Acts of violence at times was common place.
Though I think you ought to know that I'm antiprogram all the way down the line. If you are hoping for a referral you're barking up the wrong tree. Even if I knew of a good place I wouldn't publically or privately suggest it.
I have my scruples and I like to be able to sleep at night.
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