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« Reply #75 on: April 06, 2007, 09:44:09 PM »
That's good to hear! Hope he's feeling better quickly. Would his friend's mom be offended if you brought over some comfort food? I'd hope not. Did you suggest that he get into contact w/ fellow apostates? That's one thing I really wish I had done a little while after I got out. Please let me know how things work out.
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« Reply #76 on: April 15, 2007, 07:19:58 PM »
Wonder how things are working out for this family  :question:
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« Reply #77 on: April 15, 2007, 08:38:42 PM »
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I don't know exactly how to answer that, it's working in the fact that he's not in a TBS but his myspace account implies that he's doing alot of drinking and drugs.   He's living between a couple of friends houses and probably partying alot so for him it's working.
His parents have pretty much come to accept the fact that he's gonna do what he's gonna do and the consequences are his but there not to happpy about it. They are hoping he hits bottom sooner rather than later  and comes home and gets his life together.  

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« Reply #78 on: April 16, 2007, 04:18:16 PM »
I hope so too, he probably will - rock bottom isn't a good place to be while you're there, but it does mean you can't get any further down and the only way is up

I hope he starts to tire of his lifestyle soon and this is just him going wild with his freedom

Keep us posted
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« Reply #79 on: April 16, 2007, 05:12:33 PM »
Well now that's helpful! Wish failure on him. That's the spirit!

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There is absolutely nothing to be gained by "bottoming out". If anything, it's easier to get your shit together in whatever way you're trying when things are going well, no when you're assed out. This is just more of the Stepcraft bullshit that has become so pervasive in our society.
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« Reply #80 on: April 16, 2007, 05:46:33 PM »
I don't wish failure on him - that's a horrible thing to say!  :(

The rock bottom thing - sometimes it does take a person to get there to realise they have no place else to go - is what happened to me.

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« Reply #81 on: April 16, 2007, 05:56:37 PM »
Sorry, I suppose it's a touchy subject for me. My mom really would do whatever she could think of to cause me trouble in order to, in her twisted little dark mind, bring me closer to rehabilitation.
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« Reply #82 on: April 17, 2007, 07:26:13 AM »
Yer I know what its like to live wth the twisted mum who will try whatever it takes, only in a slightly different way for me....I guess the answer is to remember they are the sicko's not you, I for one am not prepared to take on her problems when I've got enough of my own (caused by her problems of course!)

She's punished me all my life, but it's not going to happen anymore.

I was in care with a girl who I am still friends with all these years later, when her mum died, she told me she held her hand to the end, and then said "I'm glad your dead, you can't hurt me anymore", she asked me if that made her evil? I said no, it made her relieved and that's ok, then I said to her "But she is still hurting you isnt she?" and she said yes

That, i find really sad  :(
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« Reply #83 on: April 17, 2007, 07:55:23 AM »
You know it may be possible that my space is not an entirely accurate picture of how this kids life is. After all is myspace not just the locker room of our time? Who has not embellised a little as a teenager in order to look cool?
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« Reply #84 on: April 17, 2007, 01:02:52 PM »
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You know it may be possible that my space is not an entirely accurate picture of how this kids life is. After all is myspace not just the locker room of our time? Who has not embellised a little as a teenager in order to look cool?


I wish that was the case, I talked to him yesterday and he admitted drinking and doing acid, he said he's not doing crack tho. I hope thats true.  Sometimes I get so upset I just want to drag him to my house and keep him safe. :(
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« Reply #85 on: April 17, 2007, 04:41:22 PM »
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You know it may be possible that my space is not an entirely accurate picture of how this kids life is. After all is myspace not just the locker room of our time? Who has not embellised a little as a teenager in order to look cool?


No kidding! You ought to see my daughter's. She likes to have fun w/ it. For awhile, her name was something like super homo or some such.
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« Reply #86 on: April 17, 2007, 05:08:29 PM »
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Well now that's helpful! Wish failure on him. That's the spirit!

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There is absolutely nothing to be gained by "bottoming out". If anything, it's easier to get your shit together in whatever way you're trying when things are going well, no when you're assed out. This is just more of the Stepcraft bullshit that has become so pervasive in our society.


sounds rediculous....   but it's true.  Stepcraft made this idiotic idea of "rock bottom" popular.  Hitting bottom is not the only way to go up.

But then again... it's a touchy subject for all of us I think becuase in the shitpits that used stepcraft, "rock bottom" was something they slammed you into, not something you hit naturally.
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« Reply #87 on: April 17, 2007, 05:44:27 PM »
psy, you're a smart kid, so please take this in stride -- it's ridiculous, not rediculous. (Think "ridicule.") - Your friend the Spelling Nazi.
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« Reply #88 on: April 17, 2007, 05:51:26 PM »
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psy, you're a smart kid, so please take this in stride -- it's ridiculous, not rediculous. (Think "ridicule.") - Your friend the Spelling Nazi.


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« Reply #89 on: April 17, 2007, 06:08:01 PM »
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You know it may be possible that my space is not an entirely accurate picture of how this kids life is. After all is myspace not just the locker room of our time? Who has not embellised a little as a teenager in order to look cool?

I wish that was the case, I talked to him yesterday and he admitted drinking and doing acid, he said he's not doing crack tho. I hope thats true.  Sometimes I get so upset I just want to drag him to my house and keep him safe. :(
Well Vern, you could do that.

But what effect would it have? Having him at your house isn't gouing to make him give up his lifestyle and want what you want for him, you're doing okay by giving him his space to work it all out and letting him know you're still there for him no matter what, consider the fact that he is taking to you about the drink and acid abuse as him placing a huge trust in you, not many kids would admit that to anyone, he's turning to you by telling you something that you could easily run to the police or his parents with in order to get taken away, it's a huge trust he's placing in you

I know it's really difficult, but try not to lecture him, by all means let him know you are not impressed by his lifestyle and see him as deserving better for himself, but for the most part, keep him close with the trust you share ... and good luck in helping to bring him back to a life that he really wants, I'm sure hes as mad as hell at himself for what he's doing, which is probably why he tells you
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