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« on: September 24, 2007, 04:25:41 PM »
Get a life! Seriously!
Pathetic bunch of bloggers you are.
You are all victims alright. Of yourselves.
Take accountability for your lives and stop blaming the world.
Seems like a SPECIAL LADY (alright) that can talk of running down someone in a vehicle SHOULD be on meds and locked up...
You were/are addicts. Deal with it, stop blaming the only place that may have had a chance to get you past your addiction and diseases.  But no, it must just be much more fun on here whinning about your woes.  GAG.

And blaming a recovery centre for murderers actions!
Nice work knobbers.

How's the ""HABIT" Anne?

Cleanser19?  Did you catch the Wiz on the news last week.

Stellar showing if you ask me...


Happy travels in your misery loves company world.
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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2007, 05:36:21 PM »
Alright then, maybe you will take the time to answer my questions...

I had smoked pot around 10 times, used LSD four times and never been drunk. I was not and never had been anything close to an addict. I couldn't even have been considered a habitual user by anyone's standards. I last used drugs more than two weeks before I was put in AARC and I had decided at the time to never use again. I haven't used since - by choice.

I was doing fairly well in school (mostly 80s and 90s) and very well in the rest of my life. I worked for a human rights lawyer, and I volunteered up to 40 hours per week. I worked with the mayor and city council on a regular basis.

I was a good kid.


I ran never having got my step one, after nearly 6 months.


How did AARC help me? How was keeping me out of school against my will for 6 months good for me?
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2007, 06:07:54 PM »
No David, I didn't see the Wizard on the news last week.  I don't watch much TV.  And no, I didn't ask you whether or not it was a stellar showing.  He's barely verbal, and has the delivery method of a used car salesman on ephedrine.  You seem pretty stupid, so it wouldn't make sense to ask you anything.  Now I do have one question.  If AARC can take responsiblity for producing one set of behaviors, ie. cessation of drug use, then it would follow that other sets of behavior could also be attributed to AARC.  ie. murdering folks, committing suicide, treating PTSD with hard drugs, etc.
But again, what are you doing posting here?  
Either you are terrified of the truth coming out, or you are a deviant who enjoys taunting people he deems losers.  Which is it?
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"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director

"...based on an understanding that addiction is a chronic relapsing disease that makes people more vulnerable to overdose after they've been in treatment."  Zontar?

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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2007, 06:42:12 PM »
^^^^^ Hey, gonna give me an answer?
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2007, 08:23:36 PM »
You AARColytes are all the same.  My feelings are so hurt that you don't like me and think I should be on medication. Next time you post please come at me with some kind of proof that my claims are false or that you believe the experiences I have described were somehow beneficial to my treatment. Until then, please know that I am losing sleep because of your insults and I am not sure I can keep thinking for much longer, hey maybe I will have a change of heart, shut my brain off and stop by an open meeting. See you there :)
Thanks again for sharing

SLF
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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2007, 11:25:18 AM »
Who th e F is David, I'm female.
Of course you don't watch TV, you're all hacker nerds who sit on this blog all day long. Or wait, maybe you divy your time as 'gamers' too. But had you seen it you'd be more abreast of his community support which is sadly a bit stronger and much more backed up than your pathetic BLOG propoganda.
Proof that your claims aren't true So Called Lady? Oh sure, let me just pull that out of my a** like you all seem to have the ability to.  Where is the proof that your claims ARE true?  6-7 of the SAME hopefulls on this cheezy site? I mean it's great that misery loves company and you all 'have' each other (well fake "online" names and such...)  
I'm sure sick and sad things have happened in all your lives.  As with 90% of the population. Only most have us can grow from it and move on with our lives, rather than sit on a blog and bitch about people from behind a shield, thinking you're making such a difference.  

I mean where is this getting you?
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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2007, 11:46:16 AM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Get a life! Seriously!
Pathetic bunch of bloggers you are.
You are all victims alright. Of yourselves.
Take accountability for your lives and stop blaming the world.
Seems like a SPECIAL LADY (alright) that can talk of running down someone in a vehicle SHOULD be on meds and locked up...
You were/are addicts. Deal with it, stop blaming the only place that may have had a chance to get you past your addiction and diseases.  But no, it must just be much more fun on here whinning about your woes.  GAG

So are you interested in answering any of those questions we all asked you a while back, or ya still go nuthin'?  You resort to the insults which would indicate YA GOT NUTHIN.

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And blaming a recovery centre for murderers actions!
Nice work knobbers.

We're not talking about a 'recovery center', we're talking about AARC

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How's the ""HABIT" Anne?


The only habit I have is I bite my fingernails.  It sucks.
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2007, 11:49:25 AM »
Your DRUG habit.
Er...your 'medicine'
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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2007, 12:03:40 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Who th e F is David, I'm female.
Of course you don't watch TV, you're all hacker nerds who sit on this blog all day long.

Its a message board, not a blog.


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Or wait, maybe you divy your time as 'gamers' too. But had you seen it you'd be more abreast of his community support which is sadly a bit stronger and much more backed up than your pathetic BLOG propoganda.
Proof that your claims aren't true So Called Lady? Oh sure, let me just pull that out of my a** like you all seem to have the ability to.  Where is the proof that your claims ARE true?  6-7 of the SAME hopefulls on this cheezy site? I mean it's great that misery loves company and you all 'have' each other (well fake "online" names and such...)  
I'm sure sick and sad things have happened in all your lives.  As with 90% of the population. Only most have us can grow from it and move on with our lives, rather than sit on a blog and bitch about people from behind a shield, thinking you're making such a difference.  

I mean where is this getting you?



Well, its obviously touched a nerve with a few of you or you wouldn't bother to respond to a 'bunch of losers'.  Its hilarious that that's all you have to resort to.  Name calling.  Wanna try engaging is some actual discussion about the abusive practices that AARC employs?  Wanna talk about how Vause was trained by Newton?  Wanna talk about how AARC uses the same phases, raps, host homes, confrontational approaches that Straight was shut down for?  Wanna talk about the 5 point restraints that AARC uses that they learned from Straight?

Yeah, I didn't think so.   Run along now little one.  The adults are talking.
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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2007, 12:36:50 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Who th e F is David, I'm female.
Of course you don't watch TV, you're all hacker nerds who sit on this blog all day long. Or wait, maybe you divy your time as 'gamers' too. But had you seen it you'd be more abreast of his community support which is sadly a bit stronger and much more backed up than your pathetic BLOG propoganda.
Proof that your claims aren't true So Called Lady? Oh sure, let me just pull that out of my a** like you all seem to have the ability to.  Where is the proof that your claims ARE true?  6-7 of the SAME hopefulls on this cheezy site? I mean it's great that misery loves company and you all 'have' each other (well fake "online" names and such...)  
I'm sure sick and sad things have happened in all your lives.  As with 90% of the population. Only most have us can grow from it and move on with our lives, rather than sit on a blog and bitch about people from behind a shield, thinking you're making such a difference.  

I mean where is this getting you?


Hmmm... where is it getting us? Well, as is plain to see, an AARC parent has come here looking for advice - and s/he's listening to what we have to say. Interesting isn't it?

I find it curious how none of you ever seem to respond to me. You attack SLF and Anne because you can pick them apart till you've reduced the discussion to a matter of personalities. But you just can't seem to do that with me. So you ignore me. Well, I must warn you, you won't be ignoring me much longer. You were all terribly stupid to allow your greed to get in the way back in 2002. Honestly, when a girl with evidently no drug problem (whose drug intake test came up completely clean) comes in - pulled out of a school for gifted kids, working for a human rights lawyer, able to recite the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms in both official languages, and very socially and civically involved.... You should have turned me away. You should have sent me back home post haste realizing I would only cause you problems. But alas, your greed and your focus on the initials behind my mother's name caught your eye. And you kept me there - illegally, unethically and immorally. And I told you all over, and over that I shouldn't be there - that you had no right or legal ability to keep me there. So, you are all going to reap what you've sown. I am not ever letting this die. I must have been put in AARC for a reason, and it certainly wasn't because I had a drug problem. I believe it was because no one else was better sculpted to take you down. So I will.
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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2007, 02:12:15 PM »
David, I wish you luck on your gender transformation.  Again, I am at a bit of a loss trying to understand why you are posting here.  Do you mean the community support that has resulted in AARC continuing to operate with no license and an Executive Director with no qualifications to run a treatment centre?  Why doesn't the College of Psychologists just give him a license, who cares if he has a mail-order PhD?  
If you had grown and moved on with your life, you wouldn't be taunting people in this forum.  You need help.  I can give you the number of a counsellor who has a real PhD, not a mail-order job from the Union Institute.  I'm here for you.
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"...based on an understanding that addiction is a chronic relapsing disease that makes people more vulnerable to overdose after they've been in treatment."  Zontar?

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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2007, 08:51:21 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Get a life! Seriously!
Pathetic bunch of bloggers you are.
You are all victims alright. Of yourselves.
Take accountability for your lives and stop blaming the world.
Seems like a SPECIAL LADY (alright) that can talk of running down someone in a vehicle SHOULD be on meds and locked up...
You were/are addicts. Deal with it, stop blaming the only place that may have had a chance to get you past your addiction and diseases.  But no, it must just be much more fun on here whinning about your woes.  GAG.


I started this forum a long while back for the purpose of former AARC members to have a place to meet and share. The very day the forum was uploaded current AARC members began flooding the page! They were immediately very angry and begun making threats towards any of the recovered former members.

So has what I've created been useful? Has it had an effect? Has it helped people? Yes, but mostly in an entirely different way that I'd anticipated.

There are recovered members contacting myself or other survivors via these forums and finding support all the time. But what has been the most impactful is the continuous posts by people like yourself. Thanks to hateful and bizarre posts from people believing that they are defending their cult, many companies which were donating or considering donating to AARC have chosen to back out. Child care organizations have chosen to no longer refer to AARC based on these posts. I've been contacted by media who said they were already interested in covering a story about AARC, but once they saw the crazy things that AARC members were posting here they knew it was a bigger story than they'd imagined! They are all curious when they hear that people like myself are speaking up about abuse, but they are positive of it when they read posts like your own.

After all these years I no longer have to moderate this forum and I no longer need to log in regularly. I know that by you saying these things in a place where you can't be physically violent (and therefore not harming anybody) is allowing the outside world to have a glimpse about what would happen with a group of you "targeting" a young victim.
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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2007, 05:15:04 PM »
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Alright then, maybe you will take the time to answer my questions...

I had smoked pot around 10 times, used LSD four times and never been drunk. I was not and never had been anything close to an addict. I couldn't even have been considered a habitual user by anyone's standards. I last used drugs more than two weeks before I was put in AARC and I had decided at the time to never use again. I haven't used since - by choice.

I was doing fairly well in school (mostly 80s and 90s) and very well in the rest of my life. I worked for a human rights lawyer, and I volunteered up to 40 hours per week. I worked with the mayor and city council on a regular basis.

I was a good kid.


I ran never having got my step one, after nearly 6 months.


How did AARC help me? How was keeping me out of school against my will for 6 months good for me?


Got any answers for me yet?
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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2007, 05:47:25 PM »
If I can get you the name of the Canadian kid apparently being held against his will in Gateway Academy in Salt Lake City, Utah even though he is over 16 , I will.  I think what they are doing is criminal.
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