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Good Rehab: What it looks like
« on: February 21, 2007, 02:41:17 PM »
I haven't done a deep investigation of Keystone, they don't pay me to recommend them, and I'm not offering this as a specific recommdation for care. I offer this simply as an example.

Program Parents ask all the time, when they try to discredit critics of the teen behavior modification facility industry, "So are you claiming there aren't any good programs out there? Name something you consider a good program."

Okay.

There is good rehab out there. There is quality inpatient treatment out there for the situations in which it becomes necessary.

The following place is an example of what quality rehab for teens looks like:


http://www.keystonetreatment.com/specialty.php

This place is an example of a rehab facility which passes the "sniff test" and the bullshit detectors.

1) It provides treatment for the full spectrum of life--not just adolescents, not just college-age adults, but middle-aged adults as well.

2) It has separate tracks for separate addictions and problems---note especially the dual-diagnosis track for patients with addictions plus psychiatric problems.

3) Its assessment checklists for parents are realistic instead of catch-all, when realistically applied by the parents. Specifically, for some symptoms that could otherwise be catch-alls, they provide examples of normal behavior of non-addicted teens.

4) It provides, up front, information about realistic ways parents can avoid encouraging addiction at home--accepting the "risk" that parents will cope with their own problem instead of filling a bed at the facility.

5) It specifically decries alarmism about drugs and risks in its "what not to do" section for parents, as counter-productive. No deadinsaneorinjail rhetoric there.

6) It quotes a treatment success rate in line with adult rehabs that track their success rates. I'd bet that if asked, they'd be willing to tell parents exactly how they got those numbers, and that their methods of getting success rate statistics for their adolescents would match their methods of getting them for adults. If seriously investigating a specific rehab center for a specific patient, that would be a good question to ask.

7) Look at what you get when you google "keystone survivors" versus when you google the same for (examples, not a comprehensive list): Swift River, Provo Canyon, Tranquility Bay, Carolina Springs, "Three Springs." Big Difference.

8) Another good question to ask is about patient/therapist confidentiality. A quality facility will not push a patient to disclose personal information in group that the patient is not comfortable disclosing. No ethical therapist will breach patient/therapist confidentiality even for the parents except for legally required things like "Duty to Warn" or child abuse reporting requirements. As an example, that's a question I asked of my daughter's therapist right off while I was still deciding if she'd work out---I asked her policy on confidentiality, and she told me she wouldn't breach it even for the parents. Our daughter likes her, everything else checked out, so sold!

This is what a responsible parent looks for in quality rehab.

Julie Cochrane[/i]
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2007, 02:47:41 PM »
Hey, Ginger--this is a red herring Program Parents and other Program shills raise all the time.

Would you please consider making it "sticky" for the top of the forum, or getting someone to draft a revised version that would be acceptable as a "sticky"?

I think defining quality care as opposed to the teen behavior mod industry's snake oil could be a powerful tool in helping parents who are on the fence avoid making a disastrous mistake with their child's care.

Julie
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2007, 03:52:10 PM »
Throw in minimal invasiveness, minimal coercion and minimal control and detention.

If you do not NEED to be locked up, you're not, period, end of story! And any kid in a program who is stable enough to "work the program"... don't need to be locked up.

I sure know even if something was wrong with me, If I was trapped somewhere I'd care more about getting away than "focusing on myself"  :roll:
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2007, 01:54:40 PM »
You're right, Niles. I didn't mention it, but I believe (haven't checked) that the place has a range of inpatient and outpatient care---which would be consistent with care in the "least restrictive environment" capable of safety and effectiveness handling their problems.

That's using larger society's definition of "safe and effective," not Program Parents' and Program Shills' definition.

That's the gold standard for quality mental health care: "least restrictive environment."

Julie
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2007, 07:55:33 PM »
Do they cut off contact or monitor parent child contact?
Do they accept kids brought to the facility by escorts or keep kids who don't want to be there, i.e kept against their will. If yes what happens if the child refuses to cooperate?

I didn't find the answers to these questions on their site.
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2007, 09:13:33 PM »
From the looks of things, the answer you'd get is "Of course we don't have that on our website, Jesus, who do you think we are?! That'd be like posting that we don't hire pedophiles!" That's my guess, anyway.
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2007, 09:28:36 PM »
You'd be surprised at how proud some programs are about kids "earning" the "privilege" of parental contact and the use of "expert" "transporters" to "safely" bring the "at risk youth" to the "help they need".

To many quotation marks?

My analogy, if the devil is beautiful would we recognize him? No, same goes for the uninformed parent in regards to abusive programs. If any thing programs are good at rewording things to bypass the bullshit meter of the uninformed.
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i]Do something real, however, small. And don\'t-- don\'t diss the political things, but understand their limitations - Grace Lee Boggs[/i]
I do see the present and the future of our children as very dark. But I trust the people\'s capacity for reflection, rage, and rebellion - Oscar Olivera

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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2007, 09:30:55 PM »
Yeah, but I think the point was made in the first post that this place has nothing to do with the shitpits.
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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2007, 09:35:17 PM »
You and the OP are probably right, but I've become paranoid.
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i]Do something real, however, small. And don\'t-- don\'t diss the political things, but understand their limitations - Grace Lee Boggs[/i]
I do see the present and the future of our children as very dark. But I trust the people\'s capacity for reflection, rage, and rebellion - Oscar Olivera

Howto]

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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2007, 11:53:43 PM »
Paranoia is only when you don't have a good reason...

You do.
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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2007, 10:46:22 AM »
Can you help me
Occupy my brain?
Oh yeah
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