Tyler Ranch in Spokane, WA (TBS)

[Anonymous]

Reminds me of an ordinary abusive relationship.

Luke thwacks his ball bat into his hand repeatedly. It looks like aluminum, but it's really made of highly conductive carbon steel.

C'mon back, Leslie! I won't hurt you... much.

[Anonymous]

Goodby forever, you know nothing about me or my son.

[Anonymous]

Tell us more, please.  :roll:

[Troll Control]

On 2006-05-03 14:34:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Goodby forever, you know nothing about me or my son."

I know you'll be back.  You can't stop yourself.  

Maybe it's this type of self-discipline that you modeled for your boy all these years?  Say one thing and do the opposite?  Ever stop to think how this looks to an adolescent?  

Ever read "Catcher in the Rye"?  Holden would call you a "giant phony."

[Nihilanthic]

Dude, shes just looking for justification for her actions and feelings, and fornits doesnt provide that. We call people on their bullshit. ST does not, they just justify and 'support' any action any parent feels like taking, period, and on top of that makes them feel like them (and all parents) are saints and all kids who arent perfect are bad, and the parents are the stoic victims blah blah blah.

No wonder they hated me, and no wonder they all took it personally if I brought up the fact that DUH, there are plenty of parents just ditching kids in programs, or who just want attention - be it "omg my kid is so bad I need help" or "omg my kid was so abused omg Im so sorry".

We're wasting our time! They dont want anything but continued whitewashing and sugarcoating, nevermind that in 30~ some odd years of this industry being in existance not one program has proven theyre effective at reducing recidivism, and not one person can justify the fact that their anachronistic and abusive practices that add up to little more than culty behavior modification (for a REALLY high profit) as a service for parents, whether they realize it or not.

Parents who want a better kid get what they want - parents who genuinely care and are twisted and manipulated into a panic over their kid find a solution to that imagined problem via the program, sorta like how the same priest who tries to scare you about hell offers you a way out.

Programs are just the opiate of parents who for some reason cant do the job themselves. Im still waiting for facts that show they work, not just emotionally charged appeals to give them more chances to prove that they work, even with the past 30 years of abuse and brainwashing fresh in everyones mind, and I seriously doubt Ill ever see it!

[Anonymous]

Ah, Leslie, if you're going to post your son's phone number, I recommend that you do it now, before he goes on trial for murder.



Whose murder? Yours, Leslie. He's going to kill you, you know. One day he'll be all happy and "Yes, Mom" and "Okay" and everything, and then that night he's going to wake up remembering what was said to him, remembering what they called him, remembering what they made him do. And he's going to be angry, angry with himself for going along with it, angry at his dad for allowing it, and more than that, angry with you.



And he's going to wake you up by putting his hands around your neck and digging his thumbs into your throat as hard as he can. Just like on TV, Leslie. You'll wake up with no air, no air at all. You'll look, pleading, into his eyes and all you'll see is his grin, that malevolent grin that will haunt you for the rest of your very short life.



And when he's finally done and your corpse lies in your bed as if you were simply asleep, he's going to get some mashed-together duct tape or some heavy twine, hook it to the ceiling, and make it look like you killed yourself.



It won't work, of course. The police will find his thumb indentations sufficient evidence to get him to confess. But when he does go, he'll go with a smile on his face, because he finally managed to get you out of his life.

That is funny!