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« on: February 09, 2007, 08:13:29 PM »
I feel so blessed to have found this site and not a minute too soon. I deeply appreciate the opportunity to ask for advice from parents that, obviously, love their children enough to make tough choices for them. Here is my situation: My 16-year-old daughter has been getting more and more defiant regarding her independance. As a general rule, she is not disrespectful to other adults and, in fact, her teachers and friend's parents state that she is very sweet and cooperative. Her grades have declined over the last two years and it is evident that she doesn't have the self-motivation or discipline to make herself do what it takes to be successful. She is diagnosed as borderline ADHD and takes Adderall during the school year. I suspect that she has experimented with drugs and has become sexually active. Her father and I are divorced and we know that she has stolen money from him and used his credit card without authorization. She elected to work instead of going on vacation and so her grandmother came to stay with her. During that time, she said she was going to work but did come home after work. She returned the following morning at 7:30 a.m. We learned that she had been discharged from her job because it was believed that she had padded her tip on a customer's credit card and there is information to support that it was not the first time. She lied about her whereabouts which is no surprise because she lies about most things, even when the truth is obvious. We sent her to a wilderness program. At first, the letters from her begged that we bring her home, stating that she had learned her lesson and would never pull these kinds of stunts ever again. Now, the letters are very encouraging in that she states that everything is going to be okay and she has felt some happiness at some of the wilderness program accomplishments and has discovered personal spirituality. She said she still wants to come home soon and asks for the opportunity to graduate as soon as it is permitted.

My question is this: From everything I have read, there doesn't seem to be many examples of teens that are so effected by wilderness programs that no other intervention is needed, yes? Is there any chance that this has served as a significant "wake-up" call and she might be able to get her life back onto a successful path without attending a TBS? If it is necessary for her therapy to continue, what type of program should I seek?

Thank you for taking the time to read this. I know it's long but it's my first communication and I think I needed to state it. Any advice is appreciated.

Stacy
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2007, 08:19:09 PM »
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Re: Please - I need help.
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2007, 08:20:11 PM »
Quote from: ""stacy angioli""
If it is necessary for her therapy to continue, what type of program should I seek?


Read through this website and avoid all programs like the plague!

But you aren't a real parent ,you are the same 'parent' as Dad Trying huh?

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Re: Please - I need help.
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2007, 08:24:21 PM »
Quote from: ""stacy angioli""
I feel so blessed to have found this site and not a minute too soon. I deeply appreciate the opportunity to ask for advice from parents that, obviously, love their children enough to make tough choices for them. Here is my situation: My 16-year-old daughter has been getting more and more defiant regarding her independance. As a general rule, she is not disrespectful to other adults and, in fact, her teachers and friend's parents state that she is very sweet and cooperative. Her grades have declined over the last two years and it is evident that she doesn't have the self-motivation or discipline to make herself do what it takes to be successful. She is diagnosed as borderline ADHD and takes Adderall during the school year. I suspect that she has experimented with drugs and has become sexually active. Her father and I are divorced and we know that she has stolen money from him and used his credit card without authorization. She elected to work instead of going on vacation and so her grandmother came to stay with her. During that time, she said she was going to work but did come home after work. She returned the following morning at 7:30 a.m. We learned that she had been discharged from her job because it was believed that she had padded her tip on a customer's credit card and there is information to support that it was not the first time. She lied about her whereabouts which is no surprise because she lies about most things, even when the truth is obvious. We sent her to a wilderness program. At first, the letters from her begged that we bring her home, stating that she had learned her lesson and would never pull these kinds of stunts ever again. Now, the letters are very encouraging in that she states that everything is going to be okay and she has felt some happiness at some of the wilderness program accomplishments and has discovered personal spirituality. She said she still wants to come home soon and asks for the opportunity to graduate as soon as it is permitted.

My question is this: From everything I have read, there doesn't seem to be many examples of teens that are so effected by wilderness programs that no other intervention is needed, yes? Is there any chance that this has served as a significant "wake-up" call and she might be able to get her life back onto a successful path without attending a TBS? If it is necessary for her therapy to continue, what type of program should I seek?

Thank you for taking the time to read this. I know it's long but it's my first communication and I think I needed to state it. Any advice is appreciated.

Stacy


Read "Help at any Cost" By Maia Slavitz

She found kids in TBS schools recovered at the same exact rate as those with no intervention at all.

What Wilderness program did you send her to?
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Sue Scheff Truth - Blog on Sue Scheff
"Our services are free; we do not make a profit. Parents of troubled teens ourselves, PURE strives to create a safe haven of truth and reality." - Sue Scheff - August 13th, 2007 (fukkin surreal)

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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2007, 10:13:30 PM »
I sensed a troll before I even opened this thread and sure enough..

WHY do we bother replying to this stuff?

Nothing better to do i guess?
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2007, 10:23:46 PM »
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I sensed a troll before I even opened this thread and sure enough..

WHY do we bother replying to this stuff?

Nothing better to do i guess?


eeh.. i switch to fornits every once in a while while i'm doing other stuff.  it's like background noise.  some people watch tv, some listen to the radio.
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Benchmark Young Adult School - bad place [archive.org link]
Sue Scheff Truth - Blog on Sue Scheff
"Our services are free; we do not make a profit. Parents of troubled teens ourselves, PURE strives to create a safe haven of truth and reality." - Sue Scheff - August 13th, 2007 (fukkin surreal)

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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2007, 10:27:41 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2007, 08:45:42 AM »
ugh..whats wroong withthem? Why do they pretend to be parents ?its so weird
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2007, 11:11:57 AM »
I'll take out their brains and throw them to my dogs!  ::bwahaha2::
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2007, 11:35:28 AM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
ugh..whats wroong withthem? Why do they pretend to be parents ?its so weird


Back in the mid 90's it was popular at various programs to have the kids write letters to other kids posing as their parents, to help the other kid solve their issues and help them see their behavior from their families perspective. I think a few of those survivors are living in the shadows of this forum.
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