Yet Another CCM Girl Flaming Thread

[CCM girl 1989]

I merely stated that we should all be able to state our own opinions on different subjects here at Fornits. I think spreading false rumors about me, creating disgusting stories, and calling me names just makes you all look bad, not me!

I sit back, and I see what you do to parents who come on here looking for help. They end up hightailing it out of here within a few days. Then because you don't want to take responsibility, you call them trolls. Granted some of them may be just that. But, there is a lot of them who aren't.

Dad Trying I believe was not a troll. I could not believe some of the advice you guys were giving him. The only people I would personally listen to would be DJ, MA, Coverguard, Deborah, Julie, The Who, and that's about it. All the rest of you I think give really bad advice, and are hurting the cause.

[Anonymous]

I merely stated that we should all be able to state our own opinions on different subjects here at Fornits.

You are stating the obvious.

hurting the cause.

A lot of people think that about you.

[CCM girl 1989]

What cause exactly do you mean. The last time I checked you seemed pretty ok with sending kids off to programs against their free will.

Personally I am not here to be bothered with the parents. I don't care what they think. Dad Trying is a child abuser who should be in prison, not getting crappy advice on fornits.

I'm here to help kids.

So again what cause are you fighting?

And what am I supposed to appreciate?

And do you think its ok for kids to be sent away for treatment against their free will?

The last time I checked kids who are under 18 don't have any rights when it comes to being sent away by their parents? Please let me know if that has changed? LOL

With that being said, maybe you should care about what parents think? Especially when it comes to the way you behave, and act on here.

I am sometimes okay with kids getting sent away against their own free will because kids more then likely aren't going to elect to go someplace where there are rules, and can't just do what they want. Kids sometimes don't realize they need help.

You're not helping kids by telling their parents off.

Dad Trying is a child abuser? Sounds like his kid is a parents abuser!!!!!! He's hitting the Dad in the face over and over??? You think this is okay? Great! And the Dad doesn't do anything back? Oh, what the hell? Who cares, as long as a finger isn't laid on this teenage son of his!!!!

By acting the way you do, you are not helping the kids period.

The cause I am fighting?? I want teens to be able to get the help they need in safe enviroments. There is such a thing. You know it, I know it, these places do exist. We differ in our opinions. If kids are out of control hurting others you act like it's just peachy keen! Oh just let them be free to continue to do that. To potentially hurt people who have nothing to do with them. Innocent people who could be effected by these teens actions. Well, lets just hope it is you who is struck by this teens car when they are drunk or high on drugs. Because I am sure when you are rolling around in that wheelchair of yours, you'll be thinking....oh it wasn't the kids fault. It's okay my whole life has been affected by this kids choices. It's okay I'll never get to walk again, make love to another human being, or to do much of anything.

So, anyway...........I'm really glad you are so understanding. Because, I would not be whatsover. I'd be pretty upset that this teen who was known to have all these problems was left to roam free, and his actions affected my whole life, and my families. I'd be suing those parents in a heartbeat. Who else would be taking care of me? The state, my husband, my children? Great, they get this burden placed in their lap?!!

Nobody should take advice from you. Because your advice for the most part, is complete shit.

[Anonymous]

Innocent people who could be effected by these teens actions. Well, lets just hope it is you who is struck by this teens car when they are drunk or high on drugs. Because I am sure when you are rolling around in that wheelchair of yours, you'll be thinking....oh it wasn't the kids fault. It's okay my whole life has been affected by this kids choices. It's okay I'll never get to walk again, make love to another human being, or to do much of anything.

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[Anonymous]

The last time I checked kids who are under 18 don't have any rights when it comes to being sent away by their parents? Please let me know if that has changed? LOL

With that being said, maybe you should care about what parents think? Especially when it comes to the way you behave, and act on here.

I am sometimes okay with kids getting sent away against their own free will because kids more then likely aren't going to elect to go someplace where there are rules, and can't just do what they want. Kids sometimes don't realize they need help.

You're not helping kids by telling their parents off.

Dad Trying is a child abuser? Sounds like his kid is a parents abuser!!!!!! He's hitting the Dad in the face over and over??? You think this is okay? Great! And the Dad doesn't do anything back? Oh, what the hell? Who cares, as long as a finger isn't laid on this teenage son of his!!!!

By acting the way you do, you are not helping the kids period.

The cause I am fighting?? I want teens to be able to get the help they need in safe enviroments. There is such a thing. You know it, I know it, these places do exist. We differ in our opinions. If kids are out of control hurting others you act like it's just peachy keen! Oh just let them be free to continue to do that. To potentially hurt people who have nothing to do with them. Innocent people who could be effected by these teens actions. Well, lets just hope it is you who is struck by this teens car when they are drunk or high on drugs. Because I am sure when you are rolling around in that wheelchair of yours, you'll be thinking....oh it wasn't the kids fault. It's okay my whole life has been affected by this kids choices. It's okay I'll never get to walk again, make love to another human being, or to do much of anything.

So, anyway...........I'm really glad you are so understanding. Because, I would not be whatsover. I'd be pretty upset that this teen who was known to have all these problems was left to roam free, and his actions affected my whole life, and my families. I'd be suing those parents in a heartbeat. Who else would be taking care of me? The state, my husband, my children? Great, they get this burden placed in their lap?!!

Nobody should take advice from you. Because your advice for the most part, is complete shit.

CCM, do you have any children?

[CCM girl 1989]

The difference between an adult being under the influence and a minor causing an accident is the adults sentence is much harsher. Minors barely get any time, and most the time are given a clean slate at the age of 18.

My kids would know if they were to hit me, which hopefully the never would, they just might get hit back. I'm not talking a little child here. I am talking in terms of a teenager.

If anyone on this planet were to hit me, they just might get hit back. I wouldn't go after anybody, but I would defend myself.

Being in the middle is just fine by me. I understand both sides. So what? No, I am not going to either side. Is this like elementary schools to where I have to pick a side? Puhleese! Grow up!!!!!

As far as having data to back what I say up.........if I remember correctly The Who in another thread came up with a ton of stuff, which probably took some good time to do....and you still couldn't accept it. So, I think not. I know you all know what I am talking about. That is unless of course you never step outta your house, never read a paper, never turn on the news, and never talk to anybody. Those would be the people that have no clue what I am talking about when I talk about teens getting into DUI accidents and hurting or killing other people.

I didn't even talk about the scores of teens that cause violence everyday that are troubled. The DUI thing was an example. Basically just the tip of the iceburg.

[exhausted]

I agree with everything CCM girl has said, when my boy get violent, they know full well i am goin to land them on their arses whether i end up hurt in the process, it's the only way they're going to learn that if they hit out, others have the right to defend themselves, they also need to know it's not a behaviour I am prepared to accept and do nothing about

Also what was said about not going to either side, thank goodnes there's someone else who thinks like me!

[Troll Control]

Well, I think what TSW is so inarticulately expressing is that the middle ground argument is more of a slippery slope where people begin to say "some programs are good" and then start "referring to" said "good programs" for money or even out of a misguided desire to help others and, later, we find out that the said "good programs" turned out to be horribly abusive all along but nobody could prove it until the weight of the evidence proves it in the end but it was too late for so many damaged children.

And is there anyone here with the mendacity to submit that this scenario has not played itself out over and over again...?

I'd rather take my chances with real therapists who employ research-proven effective treatment techniques over hacks and quacks using the most restrictive environments and methods that have been proven time and again to exacerbate problems, not solve them..

[Anonymous]

http://www.jimgoad.net/goddess.html

This guy has a lot of relevant information about this phenomenon.

[Ganja]

The difference between an adult being under the influence and a minor causing an accident is the adults sentence is much harsher. Minors barely get any time, and most the time are given a clean slate at the age of 18.

My kids would know if they were to hit me, which hopefully the never would, they just might get hit back. I'm not talking a little child here. I am talking in terms of a teenager.

If anyone on this planet were to hit me, they just might get hit back. I wouldn't go after anybody, but I would defend myself.

Being in the middle is just fine by me. I understand both sides. So what? No, I am not going to either side. Is this like elementary schools to where I have to pick a side? Puhleese! Grow up!!!!!

As far as having data to back what I say up.........if I remember correctly The Who in another thread came up with a ton of stuff, which probably took some good time to do....and you still couldn't accept it. So, I think not. I know you all know what I am talking about. That is unless of course you never step outta your house, never read a paper, never turn on the news, and never talk to anybody. Those would be the people that have no clue what I am talking about when I talk about teens getting into DUI accidents and hurting or killing other people.

I didn't even talk about the scores of teens that cause violence everyday that are troubled. The DUI thing was an example. Basically just the tip of the iceburg.

So what's a program gonna ~do for these drunken lunatic teens endagering our lives? Can we get to that?

[Ganja]

Well, I think what TSW is so inarticulately expressing is that the middle ground argument is more of a slippery slope where people begin to say "some programs are good" and then start "referring to" said "good programs" for money or even out of a misguided desire to help others and, later, we find out that the said "good programs" turned out to be horribly abusive all along but nobody could prove it until the weight of the evidence proves it in the end but it was too late for so many damaged children.

And is there anyone here with the mendacity to submit that this scenario has not played itself out over and over again...?

I'd rather take my chances with real therapists who employ research-proven effective treatment techniques over hacks and quacks using the most restrictive environments and methods that have been proven time and again to exacerbate problems, not solve them..

 ::bangin::  ::cheers::  :tup:

[Ganja]

http://www.jimgoad.net/goddess.html

This guy has a lot of relevant information about this phenomenon.

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[CCM girl 1989]

I do think about what I say, before I say it TSW. I don't take hours and hours to go over a paragraph though! Do you think I should so I can make sure it meets your expectations?

Once again, get over yourself dude!!!!!

[Ganja]

You ever have pussy-farts, CCM?  :rofl:

[Anonymous]

Make her go AWAY.  Bring back the naughty pictures.  That kept her dysfunctional ass AWAY for 2-3 days.