Why Fornits is Superior in all ways to Antiwwasp.

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[Nihilanthic]

I'm not attacking you.

I'm asking how you are justifying the nonconsentual abduction, confinement, and abuse/forced quack treatment of children.

If you think that is an attack, then you need to grow the hell up and realize I can attack what you say, your opinions, but not yourself.

I also find it supremely ironic that you would give us that whine-line considering how it is for a child in a program  :roll: which you should know all too well.

[Anne Bonney]

http://www.nih.gov/news/pr/oct2004/od-15.htm[/url]

Panel Finds that Scare Tactics for Violence Prevention are Harmful
Good news is that positive approaches show promise

Bethesda, Maryland ? Programs that rely on ?scare tactics? to prevent children and adolescents from engaging in violent behavior are not only ineffective, but may actually make the problem worse, according to an independent state-of-the-science panel convened this week by the National Institutes of Health (NIH). The panel, charged with assessing the available evidence on preventing violence and other health-risking behaviors in adolescents, announced today its assessment of the current research.

The panel found that group detention centers, boot camps, and other ?get tough? programs often exacerbate problems by grouping young people with delinquent tendencies, where the more sophisticated instruct the more naïve. Similarly, the practice of transferring juveniles to the adult judicial system can be counterproductive, resulting in greater violence among incarcerated youth.

?The good news is that a number of intervention programs have been demonstrated to be effective through randomized controlled trials,? explained Dr. Robert L. Johnson, Chair of the Department of Pediatrics at the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey, who chaired the state-of-the-science panel. ?We were pleased to find several programs that work, and we hope that communities will adopt them and continue to develop other interventions that incorporate the features common to successful programs.?

The panel highlighted two programs that are clearly effective in reducing arrests and out-of-home placements: Functional Family Therapy, and Multisystemic Therapy. Among the important characteristics that these programs have in common are a focus on developing social competency skills, a long-term approach, and family involvement.

The panel also identified strengths and weaknesses in the field of violence prevention research, and made a number of recommendations to shape future efforts. Among these, the panel advocated a national population-based adolescent violence registry, and greater emphasis on economic research into the cost-effectiveness of intervention to prevent violence.

The panel released its findings in a public session this morning, following two days of expert presentations and panel deliberations. The full text of the panel's draft statement will be available late today at http://consensus.nih.gov. The final version will be available at the same Web address in three to four weeks. Statements from past conferences and additional information about the NIH Consensus Development Program are also available at the Web site, or by calling 1-888-644-2667.

The panel is independent and its report is not a policy statement of the NIH or the Federal Government. The NIH Consensus Development Program, of which this conference is a part, was established in 1977 as a mechanism to judge controversial topics in medicine and public health in an unbiased, impartial manner. NIH has conducted 119 consensus development conferences, and 23 state-of-the-science (formerly "technology assessment") conferences, addressing a wide range of issues.

The conference was sponsored by the Office of Medical Applications of Research and the National Institute of Mental Health, of the NIH. Cosponsors included the Office of Behavioral and Social Sciences Research, the National Institute of Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development, the National Institute on Drug Abuse, National Institute of Nursing Research, the National Library of Medicine, the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, the U.S. Department of Education, and the U.S. Department of Justice.

The 13-member panel included practitioners and researchers in community and family medicine, pediatrics, nursing, psychiatry, behavioral health, economics, juvenile justice, outcomes research, and a public representative. The panel reviewed an extensive collection of scientific literature related to youth violence prevention, including a systematic literature review prepared by the Southern California Evidence-Based Practice Center, under contract with the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality. A summary of the Evidence Report on Preventing Violence and Related Health-Risking Social Behaviors in Adolescents is available at http://www.ahrq.gov/clinic/epcsums/adolvisum.htm.

The archived webcast of the conference sessions will be available shortly at http://consensus.nih.gov/.






Or this one.....


http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:5T ... =firefox-a

Treatment  

Treatment options for adolescents with depression are similar to those for depressed adults, and include psychotherapy and antidepressant medications (see major depression for a review of treatments and self-care). However, one major antidepressant, Paxil, now has a warning NOT to be given to children under 18.

Family therapy may be helpful if family conflict is contributing to the depression. Support from family or teachers to help with school problems may also be needed. Occasionally, hospitalization in a psychiatric unit may be required for individuals with severe depression, or if they are at risk of suicide.

Because of the behavior problems that often co-exist with adolescent depression, many parents are tempted to send their child to a "boot camp", "wilderness program", or "emotional growth school."

These programs often use non-medical staff, confrontational therapies, and harsh punishments. There is no scientific evidence to support such programs. In fact, there is a growing body of research which suggests that they can actually harm sensitive teens with depression.

Depressed teens who act out may also become involved with the criminal justice system. Parents are often advised not to intervene, but to "let them experience consequences."

Unfortunately, this can also harm teens through exposure to more deviant peers and reduction in educational opportunities. A better solution is to get the best possible legal advice and search for treatment on your own, which gives parents more control over techniques used and options.

Though a large percentage of teens in the criminal justice system have mental disorders like depression, few juvenile prisons, "boot camps" or other "alternative to prison" programs provide adequate treatment.[/quote]

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You won't get me to change the way I feel. No matter how hard you try to cram it down my throat.

Getting a bit graphic here... ((LOL))

[Anonymous]

So you are going to refer kids for money then?

No, so don't worry you'll still get yours!

Why not? If its a noble cause and helping kids and all that, why arent you doing it?

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[CCM girl 1989]

I'm not attacking you.

I'm asking how you are justifying the nonconsentual abduction, confinement, and abuse/forced quack treatment of children.

If you think that is an attack, then I want you to grow the hell up and realize I can attack what you say, your opinions, but not yourself.

I also find it supremely ironic that you would give us that whine-line considering how it is for a child in a program  :roll: which you should know all too well.

I justify it because teens don't know everything. That's why. I don't think it's an attack, just a lame ass arguement.

[Anne Bonney]

TSW you called me out but I won't continue to "battle" you here. If it's going to be done it will be on my terms in my forum in the new subforum you seem to know so much about.

All concerned parties are encouraged to debate with me and the antiwwasp members freely and openly. Vulgarity and harrassment will not be tolerated like here and fornits and users posting should direct their posts towards topics which discuss change and provide constructive criticism or helpful feedback on what people should be doing to change the industry.

Your terms, your forum.   :roll: How is it that others are capable of ignoring the personal attacks and just ask and answer questions and you can't?  I haven't slammed you, I'm not anonymous and I'm not the only one.  "The Boys" can get a bit much sometimes, they piss me off on a regular basis, but somehow we all seem to be able to coexist without groundrules and censorship.

CCMG will respond to posts all around mine that are personal attacks on her and go tit for tat with them, but she'll flat ignore my questions on her thoughts about those studies on bootcamps.   Boo hoo guys.  Discuss or don't, but quit being such babies about it.

[CCM girl 1989]

You won't get me to change the way I feel. No matter how hard you try to cram it down my throat.

Getting a bit graphic here... ((LOL))

More then likely you don't have it to cram.

[Anonymous]

I justify it because teens don't know everything. That's why.

I agree- kids don't deserve no goddamn rights, cuz they ain't no better than a bunch of fuckin NIGGERS! If mine ever try to "assert their rights" I'm gonna drag 'em out to the woodshed and tear up their uppity little asses!

[CCM girl 1989]

Repeat  :roll:

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You won't get me to change the way I feel. No matter how hard you try to cram it down my throat.

Getting a bit graphic here... ((LOL))

More then likely you don't have it to cram.

Grasshoppers have (proportionately) large penises, it's a fact!  :rofl:

[Anne Bonney]

Cite your sources!!!

 :rofl:

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You mean...right here..?  ops:

[Anne Bonney]

:rofl:  :rofl:

Nah, you can PM it to me.

 ::bwahaha::

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Ok, pants are still zipped..  :rofl: