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« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2007, 08:33:21 PM »
Quote from: ""Charly""
Psy- You know I respect your viewpoint, but if you really wanted to get off bans, this was not the way to approach Lon.  He CAN put you "on bans" and he did!  He runs the site and he made it clear what he didn't like.  Whether or not you or some of the rest of us agree or not doesn't matter.  Why would he want someone posting on his site that  speaks to him the way you did in your message to him?  You were insulting and rude.  I know you and everyone else here thinks "he deserves it", but don't expect to get back on the ST forum!   Just as my requests to be treated respectfully on THIS forum were ignored completely, Lon is free to ignore your request to share your viewpoint.  I'm sorry this happened.

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« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2007, 08:35:34 PM »
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You know what, guys? I think it's time for an analogy.

Let's say that instead of months, sometimes years-long humiliation and abuse, these people weren't quite so sadistic and simply sent their teenagers to get fucked up the ass by a beefy black guy named Tyrone. They discuss it with regularity and aplomb. "Well, Tyrone fucked my kid right in his ass, and he was so much better after that! But now my kid won't talk to me anymore." "We all know you did the right thing. He'll thank you for it some day." Etc, etc, etc.

Now, enter Psy. He comes in with a different message. "You know, maybe it wasn't such a good idea to send your kid away to get fucked in the ass." He proceeds to convince other parents entering the forum not to send their kids to Tyrone's 12-inch dick.

Now we have Lon. He makes money when kids are violated by Tyrone. What do you expect him to do? Do you expect him to accept a different opinion? Of course not. He doesn't care about the kids being reamed; why would he care about that? So he gets rid of the interloper, and reminds everyone that the forum is for parents to approve and support each other in their decision to have their kid raped by Tyrone. And now everyone acts like the banning is such a big deal, while kids are still being put in handcuffs for a long drive over to Tyrone's place.

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« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2007, 08:51:14 PM »
Quote from: ""Charly""
I apologized, sincerely, to Deborah by PM.  
I don't think Psy was at all disrespectful in his posts.  I appreciated the dialogue.  I also agree with him that he should have the right to say whatever he wants and not to have his opinions edited. It just isn't going to be that way on Lon's forum.  That's one of the things we all face in life.  There are things I can't do at work that I might want to do. Psy-don't worry. No one is going to silence you. You ran into a slight wall, but you'll get past it.  Keep your eye on the ball.
I really am considering a lot of what Psy has told me and I am changing my opinion about a lot of programs. I am open to hearing what you have to say.  I just can't get to where I think ALL programs are bad for ALL kids.  I just don't see that, especially in the case of Wilderness.


Karen.  Listen.  This forum has a lot of survivors right?  People who were in programs.  You have complained that some people on fornits are actually angry enough to kill their own parents.  Ask yourself what has to be done to make a child angry enough to want to kill his/her parent?
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« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2007, 08:56:08 PM »
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Quote from: ""Charly""
I apologized, sincerely, to Deborah by PM.  
I don't think Psy was at all disrespectful in his posts.  I appreciated the dialogue.  I also agree with him that he should have the right to say whatever he wants and not to have his opinions edited. It just isn't going to be that way on Lon's forum.  That's one of the things we all face in life.  There are things I can't do at work that I might want to do. Psy-don't worry. No one is going to silence you. You ran into a slight wall, but you'll get past it.  Keep your eye on the ball.
I really am considering a lot of what Psy has told me and I am changing my opinion about a lot of programs. I am open to hearing what you have to say.  I just can't get to where I think ALL programs are bad for ALL kids.  I just don't see that, especially in the case of Wilderness.

Karen.  Listen.  This forum has a lot of survivors right?  People who were in programs.  You have complained that some people on fornits are actually angry enough to kill their own parents.  Ask yourself what has to be done to make a child angry enough to want to kill his/her parent?

I don't want to kill my parents, psy.
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« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2007, 09:04:14 PM »
Quote from: ""TS Waygookin""
You could subcontract it out.

Let's just say that I've moved on.. or gotten over it... what flavor tang tonight?  :rofl:
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« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2007, 09:06:02 PM »
Im taking a wild guess here that the person who was claiming patricide as a defense against programs was a. not a program survivor and b. kidding.. the more you know... orange tang.. is there another kind?
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« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2007, 09:07:04 PM »
Lower spine for Dad and shoulders for Mom, SS?
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« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2007, 09:08:11 PM »
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Lower spine for Dad and shoulders for Mom, SS?

No really, it's all right...I'm good.  :rofl:  :rofl:
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« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2007, 10:23:15 PM »
Lon's behavior and vocabulary reeks of program bullshit and just control-freakery in general.

*sigh* he proved our point, and then some, with his pissy diatribe against Psy. The proof is in the pudding and THEN some.

He wants to make money, so that means shoving kids into those revolving door warehouse programs with networks of ed-cons sending them in left and right, and I think his conduct just demonstrates how right everyone who felt that way was.

God forbid a kid who has nothing wrong NOT go to a program even if her mom thinks she should, despite having no ability to diagnose, and the fact that programs don't do anything anyway!  :roll:

-Niles too lazy to log in.
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« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2007, 11:46:14 PM »
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Lon's behavior and vocabulary reeks of program bullshit and just control-freakery in general.



Yes. This thread has made me laugh at least twice (well, three times with TSW's comment about contracting a hit man). ST uses CEDU lingo. It's not TOS, it's agreements. And you aren't banned, you're on bans. :rofl:  

Is that really how it is over there, or is that just Karen speaking for herself?

I know, it's little compared to the whole big mess that is ST, but when I read that shit I seriously busted a gut.

What a strange, stupid world your brain is in, Lon. Please keep it to yourself.
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« Reply #40 on: January 31, 2007, 01:55:54 AM »
The net responds to censorship like damage and routes around it.
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« Reply #41 on: February 01, 2007, 02:09:10 AM »
I just felt like posting this in it's entirity...
Quote from: ""Mose""
Except the agenda of people like Psy, Overlord and Curious are to derail and hijack all parent inquiry to always turn into the same argument.
The most recent example is with Lori and her inquiry about her daughter.

The constant nitpicking at every word a parent writes accomplishes their set goal of stopping us from wanting to post or helping others parents. Their agenda is not to be helpful, or give solutions or show concern about parenting a family in crisis.

So many parents on this board (myself included) voice all types of skepticism and warnings on a regular basis without the intention of derailing the conversation into an argument. Parents who have experiences with their teens do lead newcomers to find the right solution without all jumping on the send your kid away bandwagon.

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Yawn.  Our intention is to stop them from "helping" other parents.
Yeah.. I'd say that's pretty accurate... considering i know first hand what that kind of "help" can do.
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« Reply #42 on: February 01, 2007, 05:34:11 AM »
I've had all the help I can stand.
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« Reply #43 on: February 01, 2007, 05:58:14 AM »
I read Moses post. I am not sure whether to be insulted or flattered! :rofl:  :rofl:
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