Inside the head of a shithead parent

[Troll Control]

Relax,?..It was just a suggestion.  Everyone seemed frustrated (as I can see you are) and throwing names out of kids that died who were in hospitals and mental health treatment centers, wilderness etc.  and wanted the kids to be counted.  I agree 100% they should be.  
By excluding them I am not saying they are unimportant, they are just not part of this study.  If no one is interested in tracking these types of deaths then fine, I am not here to force this on anyone.

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[Oz girl]

So who why dont you tell us all again how a kid whose family is comitted to a programme like ASR can leave at any time when they are underage with nowhere else to go? How without taking the option of being homeless and down and out would they go about it? Where would they live? What would they do for education, food and money?

[TheWho]

So who why dont you tell us all again how a kid whose family is comitted to a programme like ASR can leave at any time when they are underage with nowhere else to go? How without taking the option of being homeless and down and out would they go about it? Where would they live? What would they do for education, food and money?

Good question, OZ Girl.  I asked my daughter where she had planned to go if she succeeded in running away.  She respond by saying she really didn?t have a plan but just was frustrated with the rules and just wanted to get out and take a walk and probably would have come back on her own anyway after awhile.
But other kids sat around and said if they took off they would probably head to a friends house or sympathetic mother or father if they were divorced.  There is a store about a half mile away where they could call someone to come get them.  But other than a friends house most did not have any further plans.
As far as supporting themselves, personally I believe they would have a tough time especially since many of them are use to a pretty good life style.  But this would apply if they were living at home and were planning on running away they would face the same dilemma.
I don?t think many kids have much of an option until they turn 18, most kids will stay where they are unless they are being abused or feeling threatened or unsafe, in this case they would just pack up and leave, never look back, without any plan at all.

[Troll Control]

I don?t think many kids have much of an option until they turn 18, most kids will stay where they are unless they are being abused or feeling threatened or unsafe, in this case they would just pack up and leave, never look back, without any plan at all.

More bologna for that sandwich.  These kids cannot leave, even if they want to.  The staff tell them things like "your parents don't want you and that's why you're here" or "if you walk down that road, the cops will be arresting you" or "you'll end up raped and dead by the side of the road" or "I will beat the evr-loving shit out of you and when the cops come I'll tell them you attacked me and they'll never believe a little shit like you over me!"  etc, etc, etc, etc.

So, Who, you're absolutely wrong.  Almost every single kid sits there in despair and tolerates the abuse so their parents will "love them again" and let them come home.

[TheWho]

I don?t think many kids have much of an option until they turn 18, most kids will stay where they are unless they are being abused or feeling threatened or unsafe, in this case they would just pack up and leave, never look back, without any plan at all.

More bologna for that sandwich.  These kids cannot leave, even if they want to.  The staff tell them things like "your parents don't want you and that's why you're here" or "if you walk down that road, the cops will be arresting you" or "you'll end up raped and dead by the side of the road" or "I will beat the evr-loving shit out of you and when the cops come I'll tell them you attacked me and they'll never believe a little shit like you over me!"  etc, etc, etc, etc.

So, Who, you're absolutely wrong.  Almost every single kid sits there in despair and tolerates the abuse so their parents will "love them again" and let them come home.

Your parents don?t want you??..you will get raped?........The cops will arrest you?.......Dead by the side of the road??.I will beat the sh_t out of you ?.....
It is obvious you don?t know ASR very well or are new here.  You have no idea what you are talking about.  I met most of the counselors.. The kids don?t need to run away all they have to do is break one of their rules too many times and you get kicked out.  So why bother running anyway?

[Troll Control]

You're mistaken, Who.  I am intimately familiar with ASR and the tactics they use to control residents.  You have no idea what goes on when the staff is alone with your kid.  

Anybody who ever worked at any one of these places can tell you that this is precisely what the staff do and say.

[TheWho]

You're mistaken, Who.  I am intimately familiar with ASR and the tactics they use to control residents.  You have no idea what goes on when the staff is alone with your kid.  

Anybody who ever worked at any one of these places can tell you that this is precisely what the staff do and say.

You can post what you like to ........  But it is not true I have met the counselors and talked to many students who graduated, you have no idea what you are talking about....it is not even close to how they handle the situation.  My daughter tried to run away while she was there so I know first hand, no need to try to convince me otherwise.

[Troll Control]

Your beloved Rudy Bentz himself told a black kid that he'll quickly "find out what the locals think of niggers around here.  You'll be lucky to make it to the morning."  And he was the headmaster.

[Anonymous]

Your beloved Rudy Bentz himself told a black kid that he'll quickly "find out what the locals think of niggers around here.  You'll be lucky to make it to the morning."  And he was the headmaster.

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Hey Guest, mind heading over to the Aspen board and dealing with some of the un-people over there?

[Troll Control]

You're mistaken, Who.  I am intimately familiar with ASR and the tactics they use to control residents.  You have no idea what goes on when the staff is alone with your kid.  

Anybody who ever worked at any one of these places can tell you that this is precisely what the staff do and say.

You can post what you like to ........  But it is not true I have met the counselors and talked to many students who graduated, you have no idea what you are talking about....it is not even close to how they handle the situation.  My daughter tried to run away while she was there so I know first hand, no need to try to convince me otherwise.

Nobody's trying to convince you of anything.  That's a waste of time because you're a moron.

This is for other parents who you try to rope in with your nonsense.

You can believe what you want, but I know exactly what happens there, behind closed doors when nobody else is around.  Not only does it happen, it's taught by the top staff.

Seriously, Who, you'll never know anything like what the kids and staff know.  You get the sterilized version for parental unit consumption, not the straight dope.  Again, anyone who has ever been to ASR or worked at ASR knows the parental bots are fed only what they want to hear.

[RobertBruce]

TheWho wrote:

You can post what you like to ........ so long as it doesn't disagree with what I've been told to think and say. It doesn't matter to me that it's all true I have seen pictures of the counselors and heard they have many students who graduated, you have no idea what you are talking about....it is not even close to how they handle the situation. My daughter tried to run away while she was there, luckily they caught and beat the living shit out of her., it was okay though I told them I had wanted to do that to her a long time, this conversation took place while I watched her strip search,  so I know first hand, no need to try to convince me otherwise, cause I'm not interested in learning the truth about anything anyway.

[Troll Control]

Yeah, that about sums it up.  With a freak like The Who, there's no learning.  "I-am-a-robotic-mechanized-denial-machine-programmed-to-self-destruct-upon-cognitive-dissonance.  Can-not-compute!  Can-not-compute!  Warning!  Warning!!  Dissonance!  Must-destroy-reality-to-avoid-truth!"

Fucking dum-dum.

[RobertBruce]

Cindy accept it, you've been owned. Continue to believe your own programmed delusion if you like but at the very least recognize you're the only one. Deborah provided the stats for the year you seem so fixated on, we've all given you numerous examples of kids who were killed in TBS's, and still you want to pretend it isnt so. If the subject matter wasn't so morbid it would almost be comical, you stomping your little feet trying desperatly to split hairs.

"Did the little bastard die on a thursday? Was he wearing a clown costume? Had he eaten pudding that day? If not then he wasn't murdered it was a preventable homicide"

You're no different then the sick fucks who kill these kids, claiming things like "sickle cell" or "excitable heart syndrome".

Continue to delude yourself for our amusement if you like but you've lost, accept that or move on. Either way parents will now see one more reason why they shouldnt send their kids to these dangerous places.

Thanks for bring this topic to the forefront Cindy. You've been a big help.

[TheWho]

Cindy accept it, you've been owned. Continue to believe your own programmed delusion if you like but at the very least recognize you're the only one. Deborah provided the stats for the year you seem so fixated on, we've all given you numerous examples of kids who were killed in TBS's, and still you want to pretend it isnt so. If the subject matter wasn't so morbid it would almost be comical, you stomping your little feet trying desperatly to split hairs.

"Did the little bastard die on a thursday? Was he wearing a clown costume? Had he eaten pudding that day? If not then he wasn't murdered it was a preventable homicide"

You're no different then the sick fucks who kill these kids, claiming things like "sickle cell" or "excitable heart syndrome".

Continue to delude yourself for our amusement if you like but you've lost, accept that or move on. Either way parents will now see one more reason why they shouldnt send their kids to these dangerous places.

Thanks for bring this topic to the forefront Cindy. You've been a big help.

You are welcome!!!

Well Thanks for your contribution, Bob, I think, what did you contribute again?.  I can see I hit a nerve with all that dialog you gave us.  Did you ever find another data point for our data set like you mentioned?
Didn?t think so.........
Only kidding, the data speaks for itself, anyway, I think that is the point you missed.  I am just providing it for you.  Sorry if it hurts your perception of TBS's, though.

[Oz girl]

I don?t think many kids have much of an option until they turn 18, most kids will stay where they are unless they are being abused or feeling threatened or unsafe, in this case they would just pack up and leave, never look back, without any plan at all.

If most kids dont have a real option to leave till they are 18, then they are not free to go at any time at all. Thus they are living in a prison. it just does not have barbed wire fences.