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« Reply #180 on: February 02, 2007, 02:40:19 PM »
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 I am sure he has done well for himself.  He was a smart guy.  Look at how he manuvered himself into the headmasters job,  moved Joe aside, brought in an expert to say Joe had to go then had the old man dumped.  It was all very shrewed.  The question I have is "Why"  It makes no sense to me.  Did he have some messianic view of himself?  OR was he like that character in the movie "In the Company of Men"  He did it as a game to see it he could?
 A lot of people from back then love him still. I am not one of them.  I just find it ironic that some one that would preach such lofty sermons would end up doing something so quodidian as the front man for a commuter school.

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Emil,

Ed Legg was a Harvard grad, a football star with a law degree, who ended up in a high school and had to teach the likes of us. In that context his revolutionary fervor, political climbing, and prophecies of failure for many a poor boy and girl were probably just his way of dealing (badly) with his own sense of failure, and it's best that he is out of there and unable to influence young adults. My problem with Ed is his complicity. Although his hands were clean of the abuses that were taking place all around him, as headmaster he was in it up to his ears.

On a personal level, I liked the guy. I admired his mind, he taught the only worthwhile course in the school, and he didn't begrudge me a college recommendation that started me off on a good academic footing.

I agree that we should maintain the focus on Hyde, but allow me to share an anecdote about Ed. Three-eyed toad was very potent acid, sold to me by Owlsley, the sound engineer of the Grateful Dead, and each toad had to be cut into at least sixteen parts. Not knowing this, my weird roommate and his epileptic friend stole and ingested an entire toad each. Well, the epileptic went into unending spastic seizures, and my roommate ran around the Outhouse in the middle of the night trying to find a way to commit suicide, and both of them spent a week in hospital, before their parents withdrew them. Figuring the gig was up, I walked over to Ed's office the next day to turn myself in. As I went to pull the acid out of my pocket, he said, "Stop, Michael, or I'll be an accomplice and have to call the police.'' It was that JD kicking in. He didn't put me on work crew, and trusted me to dispose of the acid. He was pretty cool about it.

Fifth, I agree with you 100 percent --- except that part that I belonged at Hyde. I owe my sanity to that acid.  

Mike


   David Van A******  too funny.  I had a whole toad, I was fine
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Re: exposing hyde through its financials
« Reply #181 on: February 02, 2007, 02:52:05 PM »
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I came across some interesting public informations regarding Hyde 990 Tax return  for Bath - Woodstock - and DC
it is quite informative, if any of you have accounting background you could have fun finding the loopholes and possibly build a case against the corruption.
go to www.guidestar.org


from one of GuideStar's info pages:

"Note: financial pages are viewable only by GuideStar Premium subscribers."
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« Reply #182 on: February 02, 2007, 03:24:07 PM »
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I agree that we should maintain the focus on Hyde, but allow me to share an anecdote about Ed. Three-eyed toad was very potent acid, sold to me by Owlsley, the sound engineer of the Grateful Dead, and each toad had to be cut into at least sixteen parts. Not knowing this, my weird roommate and his epileptic friend stole and ingested an entire toad each. Well, the epileptic went into unending spastic seizures, and my roommate ran around the Outhouse in the middle of the night trying to find a way to commit suicide, and both of them spent a week in hospital, before their parents withdrew them. Figuring the gig was up, I walked over to Ed's office the next day to turn myself in. As I went to pull the acid out of my pocket, he said, "Stop, Michael, or I'll be an accomplice and have to call the police.'' It was that JD kicking in. He didn't put me on work crew, and trusted me to dispose of the acid. He was pretty cool about it.


Mike, you are a GUY.  Ed liked and related to GUYS.  Females were a foreign entity to him, and if he could have had his way, he would probably have preferred that Hyde never started admitting them.  His behavior towards the girls was cold, distant, capricious, and borderline abusive.  I don't know if he just couldn't understand them, or if he really is a closet masogynist.  Case in point:  that whole fat-fightling-frenzy recently related here.  Oh, and what about when that whole Thurrell rape came to light?  Did he call the police then?  No, he had the girl return to school and then expelled her part way through.  Tsk, tsk, tsk.

BTW, I'm glad you and Emil hooked up!   :D
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« Reply #183 on: February 02, 2007, 03:31:41 PM »
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I agree that we should maintain the focus on Hyde, but allow me to share an anecdote about Ed. Three-eyed toad was very potent acid, sold to me by Owlsley, the sound engineer of the Grateful Dead, and each toad had to be cut into at least sixteen parts. Not knowing this, my weird roommate and his epileptic friend stole and ingested an entire toad each. Well, the epileptic went into unending spastic seizures, and my roommate ran around the Outhouse in the middle of the night trying to find a way to commit suicide, and both of them spent a week in hospital, before their parents withdrew them. Figuring the gig was up, I walked over to Ed's office the next day to turn myself in. As I went to pull the acid out of my pocket, he said, "Stop, Michael, or I'll be an accomplice and have to call the police.'' It was that JD kicking in. He didn't put me on work crew, and trusted me to dispose of the acid. He was pretty cool about it.

Mike, you are a GUY.  Ed liked and related to GUYS.  Females were a foreign entity to him, and if he could have had his way, he would probably have preferred that Hyde never started admitting them.  His behavior towards the girls was cold, distant, capricious, and borderline abusive.  I don't know if he just couldn't understand them, or if he really is a closet masogynist.  Case in point:  that whole fat-fightling-frenzy recently related here.  Oh, and what about when that whole Thurrell rape came to light?  Did he call the police then?  No, he had the girl return to school and then expelled her part way through.  Tsk, tsk, tsk.

BTW, I'm glad you and Emil hooked up!   :D


Sounds like this guy Ed had issues with the female sex.  Probably stems from his own relationship with his mom.  Have any of you tried to get in touch with him in recent years?  Do you know where he is or what he is doing?

As far as how he handled a rape, not much different than the Hyde today.  Same way of dealing with things, but 30 years later
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« Reply #185 on: February 02, 2007, 10:09:38 PM »
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I'm afraid an economic hammer is the only way to wield some clout around there.  Perhaps if places such as the William H. Donner Foundation stopped giving them money and their insurance company upped premiums (due their utter lack of action on issues they get sued over), they might deign to lend an ear.

Any way to know who their insurance company is or how to contact the companies that donate to them?


FYI, if you google Joe Gauld, Fornits comes up on the first page!
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« Reply #186 on: February 03, 2007, 12:22:45 AM »
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Speaking of brainwashing, I have been relating Hyde's tactics to the tactics used by the boy who is recently in the paper and who was kidnapped and held by a pedophile. This is the boy who was kidnapped years ago and then helped hold another young boy for the pervert. The authorities recently rescued both boys. They say that he was completely brainwashed by the first 30 days of captivity which is very common given the circumstances. Certainly I was not kidnapped by Hyde but the tactics used to tear me down and then build me into the perfect Hyde student was very similar. Do any of you relate to this? Brainwashing as a young person by older adults is so profound. I think of all the times I tried to tell my parents what was going on at Hyde and all those times they would not believe me because Hyde was telling them differently. IMHO Hyde damages so many kids and families. The word that comes to my mind is "toxic."

Thoughts?


Okay, here is a link that someone put up elsewhere on this site.  Take a look, just substitute "Hydespeak" for some of the more of the more stereotypical cult phraseology used...  What do you think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E
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« Reply #187 on: February 03, 2007, 06:56:10 AM »
You describe that episode with Henry so nicely. I almost feel as if I were there with you being lectured to by Bugs Bunny. Funny that you should mention toads. It was the first school meeting on the first day of summer school, and Joe had already worked himself into a lather. Suddenly, in the middle of the meeting, Joe goes silent, as this guy meekly enters the auditorium. Joe thunders, "Why are you late?," and this guy mumbles something about having seen a three-eyed toad! Ben Hall and I had to hold on to our seats. It was all we could do to keep from rolling on the floor with laughter.

Mike[/quote]

The picture on the blotter was a three eyed toad.

emil[/quote]

 I did not know I had to be anywhere.   I heard about dinner, but concidering my frame of mind eating was not on the top of my list.  I really loved watching the middle of the carlson bridge go up and down.  I had to watch it a couple for time before I realized it was really happening.  I got board walking around Bath and decided to head back to school. I really did see the toad with all three eyes.  It was after the meeting that I got the lecture from Henry.

emil nightrate[/quote]

I should have led you by the hand back to campus. I wasn't being a good brother's keeper. Brother's keeper! "Big brother's keeper" they should call it.

Mike
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« Reply #188 on: February 03, 2007, 08:21:06 AM »
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I came across some interesting public informations regarding Hyde 990 Tax return  for Bath - Woodstock - and DC
it is quite informative, if any of you have accounting background you could have fun finding the loopholes and possibly build a case against the corruption.
go to www.guidestar.org

from one of GuideStar's info pages:

"Note: financial pages are viewable only by GuideStar Premium subscribers."



anybody can sign up. they have several levels of subscriptions but basic level is free and gets you plenty of infos.
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« Reply #189 on: February 03, 2007, 09:32:28 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E

awesome...the part of where the recruit suggests leaving is near verbatum what happened to to me my first year there.  A special meeting to address the issue with me as the focus. The difference is they sell to the parents and then brainwash kid and parent separetly... Mal, Ken. Lauri, paul, current hydites wastingtime in study hall...any thoughts???
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« Reply #190 on: February 03, 2007, 06:01:17 PM »
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You describe that episode with Henry so nicely. I almost feel as if I were there with you being lectured to by Bugs Bunny. Funny that you should mention toads. It was the first school meeting on the first day of summer school, and Joe had already worked himself into a lather. Suddenly, in the middle of the meeting, Joe goes silent, as this guy meekly enters the auditorium. Joe thunders, "Why are you late?," and this guy mumbles something about having seen a three-eyed toad! Ben Hall and I had to hold on to our seats. It was all we could do to keep from rolling on the floor with laughter.

Mike

The picture on the blotter was a three eyed toad.

emil[/quote]

 I did not know I had to be anywhere.   I heard about dinner, but concidering my frame of mind eating was not on the top of my list.  I really loved watching the middle of the carlson bridge go up and down.  I had to watch it a couple for time before I realized it was really happening.  I got board walking around Bath and decided to head back to school. I really did see the toad with all three eyes.  It was after the meeting that I got the lecture from Henry.

emil nightrate[/quote]

I should have led you by the hand back to campus. I wasn't being a good brother's keeper. Brother's keeper! "Big brother's keeper" they should call it.

Mike[/quote]

  One the first day of the regular year a hash pipe and stuff to fill it was found in my room.   We had a monkey trial at the Bath ST house.  Matt Frankel and Jim Kimball  leadership seniors, gave me the choice of either admitting it was mine or telling them whose it was.  I knew it was my roomate's ( the brother of a current Hyde BoG).  I refused to name names and I refused to fall on a sword that was not mine.  I told them I knew who's it was and that I was not going to tell them.  
  That was one of my character building lessons at hyde.  People with petty power can be arbitary and capricious.  They must be resisted.

Emil
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« Reply #191 on: February 03, 2007, 06:38:47 PM »
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You describe that episode with Henry so nicely. I almost feel as if I were there with you being lectured to by Bugs Bunny. Funny that you should mention toads. It was the first school meeting on the first day of summer school, and Joe had already worked himself into a lather. Suddenly, in the middle of the meeting, Joe goes silent, as this guy meekly enters the auditorium. Joe thunders, "Why are you late?," and this guy mumbles something about having seen a three-eyed toad! Ben Hall and I had to hold on to our seats. It was all we could do to keep from rolling on the floor with laughter.

Mike

The picture on the blotter was a three eyed toad.

emil

 I did not know I had to be anywhere.   I heard about dinner, but concidering my frame of mind eating was not on the top of my list.  I really loved watching the middle of the carlson bridge go up and down.  I had to watch it a couple for time before I realized it was really happening.  I got board walking around Bath and decided to head back to school. I really did see the toad with all three eyes.  It was after the meeting that I got the lecture from Henry.

emil nightrate[/quote]

I should have led you by the hand back to campus. I wasn't being a good brother's keeper. Brother's keeper! "Big brother's keeper" they should call it.

Mike[/quote]

  One the first day of the regular year a hash pipe and stuff to fill it was found in my room.   We had a monkey trial at the Bath ST house.  Matt Frankel and Jim Kimball  leadership seniors, gave me the choice of either admitting it was mine or telling them whose it was.  I knew it was my roomate's ( the brother of a current Hyde BoG).  I refused to name names and I refused to fall on a sword that was not mine.  I told them I knew who's it was and that I was not going to tell them.  
  That was one of my character building lessons at hyde.  People with petty power can be arbitary and capricious.  They must be resisted.

Emil[/quote]

But Emil, did they leave it at that?  Hyde usually doesn't let something like that go.  Now what they would do is to call a big school meeting or bust and everyone would be punished at the school until someone fessed up.
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« Reply #192 on: February 04, 2007, 12:34:04 AM »
Sometimes they are messy, efete, capricious, and inconsistent.
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« Reply #193 on: February 04, 2007, 07:40:33 AM »
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You describe that episode with Henry so nicely. I almost feel as if I were there with you being lectured to by Bugs Bunny. Funny that you should mention toads. It was the first school meeting on the first day of summer school, and Joe had already worked himself into a lather. Suddenly, in the middle of the meeting, Joe goes silent, as this guy meekly enters the auditorium. Joe thunders, "Why are you late?," and this guy mumbles something about having seen a three-eyed toad! Ben Hall and I had to hold on to our seats. It was all we could do to keep from rolling on the floor with laughter.

Mike

The picture on the blotter was a three eyed toad.

emil

 I did not know I had to be anywhere.   I heard about dinner, but concidering my frame of mind eating was not on the top of my list.  I really loved watching the middle of the carlson bridge go up and down.  I had to watch it a couple for time before I realized it was really happening.  I got board walking around Bath and decided to head back to school. I really did see the toad with all three eyes.  It was after the meeting that I got the lecture from Henry.

emil nightrate

I should have led you by the hand back to campus. I wasn't being a good brother's keeper. Brother's keeper! "Big brother's keeper" they should call it.

Mike[/quote]

  One the first day of the regular year a hash pipe and stuff to fill it was found in my room.   We had a monkey trial at the Bath ST house.  Matt Frankel and Jim Kimball  leadership seniors, gave me the choice of either admitting it was mine or telling them whose it was.  I knew it was my roomate's ( the brother of a current Hyde BoG).  I refused to name names and I refused to fall on a sword that was not mine.  I told them I knew who's it was and that I was not going to tell them.  
  That was one of my character building lessons at hyde.  People with petty power can be arbitary and capricious.  They must be resisted.

Emil[/quote]

But Emil, did they leave it at that?  Hyde usually doesn't let something like that go.  Now what they would do is to call a big school meeting or bust and everyone would be punished at the school until someone fessed up.[/quote]

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  I am glad you asked that question.

 Going back to the experiance I had with Mike and the confrontation that took place after ......
Henry Milton confronted me after the school meeting.  Henry told me "I am going to teach you responsiblity.  I want you here (the student union) at 6:30 in the morning.  You are going on work crew."  The next day I show up promptly at the appointed time.  No Henry.  A couple of days later I walk past a group of student doing work crew ( current refered to a 2/24 or 2 4 I believe)  Henry was supervising.  "Hey ****** I thought I told you you were on work crew" said Henry.  I looked at him and said "you told me to show up the next morning at 6:30.  I did.  I waited for you and you were not there.  I think if you are going to teach me resposiblity you should show up when you say you are going to"  Henry looked down at his shoes, trying to come up with a retort.  He said something that was pretty weak, and let me go.




 Matt and Jim sent me to Henry.  I told Henry what I told Matt and Jim. He let me go. Nothing ever came of it.  I was never on work crew at Hyde.  It was like I had a special power over Henry, a permanet get out of jail free card because I busted him.  Pretty weird.   Perhaps he was looking for a certain type of reaction, that was part his positive feedback from being the Dean of Students.  Others have noted that he was posible a sadist.  I know he had his hooks into a couple of kids that he just never let up  on.  Not me.

Emil
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« Reply #194 on: February 04, 2007, 08:49:40 AM »
This just highlights how some kids can come out of there traumatized for life and others can say, "hey, what are you talking about?"  The application of their "philosophy" was inconsistent and had as much to do with the personality of the kid as the personality of the perp and the particular circunstances at that particular point in time.  Can you imagine what a parent would be charged with if they tried to raise their kids like that?
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