Meadowlark Academy

[Anonymous]

So Tipton and Meadowlark are like "sister programs", Meadowlark being the newer of the two?  

Richey did work for WWASPS/ Teen Help.  Check the PURE threads too.

[Covergaard]

It does not sound as WWASP. For once they dont have parent seminars.

For second the number of levels are lower than WWASP.

So far, I have seen 3 levels (Orange, White, Red T-shirts). A child have phone privileges at level two, rather than level three.

http://www.tiptonacademy.com/contract.pdf?

Third it seems that the main purpose rather than therapy is to provide both jobs and cheap labour the local community.

There are only 44 miles between them.

long assed link

nother long link

Forth they use the peer group as staff in earlier stage than wwasp. All members in a peer group becomes junior staff watching over each other in order to move forward in the program. I would certainly not recommend a child which is paranoid to go there.

That kind of therapy can not solve any serious problem. It is prison the parents are buying for their children in such places. Please notice that the staff reads mails and monitor phonecalls. They even write it in the contract.

It is not wwasp. They might have been inspired by them.

BTW. I disagree about their statement about the states being the greatest country in the world, but it may be because I am a Dane.

[Oz girl]

Rick strawn has sent kids to tipton & meadowlark. What they do seem to share with WWASP is shithouse looking facilities. No pretence at nice buildings etc here for either. meadowlark also have young looking staff.
http://www.helpingteens.com/

[Covergaard]

Summer school:

They can not brainwash the poor soles in just three months. What keeps WWASP going is the fact, that most former inmates is either broken down, brainwashed beyound what should be possible or wandering the streets as homeless with the strength to write about their torment.

That calls for time. Time to milk the parents, time to break even the most upstanding youth down.

So if a facility offers summer school, like they do: (see http://www.meadowlarkacademy.com/brat-camp.html)

soon there will be survivors outthere i large numbers, which could testify about abuse. I am not a supporter of the program, but they can not push their client as hard as wwasp do.

[egypt has pyramids]

They can not brainwash the poor soles in just three months.

Some kids buy into the WWASPS ideology from day one. Every kid reacts differently. Some have graduated as fast as ten months, others it can take three years. So you'd be surprised how fast you can break someone down and change them. EST seminars were only two weekends.

What keeps WWASP going is the fact, that most former inmates is either broken down, brainwashed beyound what should be possible or wandering the streets as homeless with the strength to write about their torment.

:rofl: Okay that I definitely don't agree with. At myspace group anti-wwasp there is close to 500 members! Kev started a website called anti-wwasp which is gaining a lot of attention now. Believe me, we have the strength to write about it, the problem is getting people to read it. It's not the kids that keep this perpetuating, it's the parents. Not that many kids actually graduate the program and sing its praises for very long. Check out the pro wwasp group, its been open for a year and it has 30 or 40 members, a lot of whom never even went to wwasp. Then check out the groups critical of WWASPS, numbering in the thousands.  It's the parents who keep this going. There is WAY more information available to a parent than say in the year 2000.

[Anonymous]

WWASPS enrollment like all troubled teen programs is driven by parent demand - ergo the correct name for this industry really should be the TROUBLED PARENT INDUSTRY as suggested by Fornits founder, Ginger Warbis.

As long as you have parents desperate to get in control of their teen's attitude and behavior, the troubled parent industry will exist.

BANK ON IT.

[exhausted]

Although I agree with what you've said Guest - i fail to see how you can blame a parent for wanting to get an out of control teen back into control? I mean if your kid is using drugs, stealing cars & crashing them, mugging old ladies in the street and the list goes on, then of course a parent is going to want control over their kid, it's natural to worry about them killing themselves (or someone else) The real issue is persuading parents to deal with it, not sending their kids off to be parented by someone else, the programs are run by parent's fear!

meadowLark and Tipton are sister companies as far as I know - Meadowlark takes only girls and Tipton takes boys, this is probably a good thing to seperate the two genders, I also think Animal Behaviour therapy is a brilliant way of deaing with a troubled child, but, hey, do parents know they don't have to send their child away to do this - go to the local dog training unit and arrange traiing days for kids with behavioural problems, or buy your kid a dog dammit (we've had a dog training day here recently) it really does work

I noticed the site says they will take in children who have ADHD, this is such a bug bear with me, how can a program fix ADHD - it makes me so mad when they claim to be able to do that, they can't, no-one can fix it, its a disability, it can't be fixed  :flame:

rant over

[Oz girl]

i find this idea of animal therapy as bemusing as i do nature therapy. Isnt this what average families do when they get a dog and make the kids take responsibility of feeding it, or when mum says its a beautiful day so get outside in the sunshine and turns the telly off? Or when american parents send their kid to summer camp. It seems if you stick the label therapy on something pretty mundane you can charge thousands of $$$.

[Deborah]

:rofl:  And be reimbursed by insurance!!!
Imagine a parent trying to get a reimbursement for a horse they bought their daughter who'd been raped, cause it was 'therapeutic'.  :rofl:

[exhausted]

Titter ye not Deborah

We have a place down the road from here called The Arrow riding School for the disabled

They take children with all disabilities, even those with behavioural and learning disabilities because horses are calming, also children need to place a special trust in such a powerful animal, medical insurance wil cover the fees - when I can get my boys to help me at the yard, I have 2 different kids on my hands, it's either be responsible or you're going to get a very large and very heavy animal kick, bite or trample you, they know this and take their responsibilities there very seriously, they also really enjoy the actual care of the horse, mucking out, making up feeds, hay etc - they have skills there that I didn't know they possessed

Roll on summer, they won't come up there when it's cold, dark & raining  :wink:

[Antigen]

WWASPS enrollment like all troubled teen programs is driven by parent demand - ergo the correct name for this industry really should be the TROUBLED PARENT INDUSTRY as suggested by Fornits founder, Ginger Warbis.

As long as you have parents desperate to get in control of their teen's attitude and behavior, the troubled parent industry will exist.

BANK ON IT.

`Scuse me but, that's old info. I'm Ginger McNulty again.

[AtomicAnt]

:rofl:  And be reimbursed by insurance!!!
Imagine a parent trying to get a reimbursement for a horse they bought their daughter who'd been raped, cause it was 'therapeutic'.  :rofl:

You might be able to get away that. Many years ago I attended an asset protection program for doctors. One strategy was to have a friendly doctor prescribe a swimming pool for you (say, for arthritis). You could then build the pool and deduct it from your federal income tax as a medical expense. This loophole has since been closed.

[AtomicAnt]

Titter ye not Deborah

We have a place down the road from here called The Arrow riding School for the disabled

They take children with all disabilities, even those with behavioural and learning disabilities because horses are calming, also children need to place a special trust in such a powerful animal, medical insurance wil cover the fees - when I can get my boys to help me at the yard, I have 2 different kids on my hands, it's either be responsible or you're going to get a very large and very heavy animal kick, bite or trample you, they know this and take their responsibilities there very seriously, they also really enjoy the actual care of the horse, mucking out, making up feeds, hay etc - they have skills there that I didn't know they possessed

Roll on summer, they won't come up there when it's cold, dark & raining  :wink:

I lived and worked on a horse farm for a time. I hated it. Horses require care 7 days/week all year. No breaks. No holidays. Low pay. I did not find mucking stalls took much in the way of skill. The only reason I did it was my girlfriend at the time, was studying to be a large animal vet and lived on the horse farm. We were shacking up, as it were.

I learned plenty about horses including how to ride them (hunter/jumper) and care for them. So it was not a complete waste of time.

[Oz girl]

from the meadow lark website. Sound like a boot camp to you?

STRUCTURE:The Meadowlark Academy is proud to acknowledge the United States of America as the greatest country in the world. We are proud that this country is founded on religious values; that we have been, and continue to be defended by our loyal troops; and that it recognizes the intrinsic value of each member of its society. Our history as a nation is not about the accomplishments of individuals. It is a rich history of the uniqueness of individuals coming together for the greater good of all. There is no area that more clearly evidences this than our highly structured and patriotic success. In the patriotic tradition, individuals are taught to respect the values inherent in following those in authority. Youth at the Meadowlark Academy will learn structure and discipline. This will be seen in the uniforms worn, sleeping arrangements (barrack style), use of respectful terms to adults and peers such as Sir, Ma'am, Mr., Mrs., please, thank you, etc., in structured mass movements and at flag ceremonies. Staff at the Meadowlark Academy will have high expectations of conformity in these structured settings. As a parent, you may rest assured that this will not be accomplished through punitive or verbal intimidation. Staff will address youth in a firm and, as needed, assertive manner always remembering to maintain the dignity of the youth in their care.PPC:The Positive Peer Culture discipline has a long and successful history. The Meadowlark Academy incorporates some of the basic components from this discipline. PPC is neither a loosely organized program nor one that is totally run by the adolescents. There is a keen understanding of the need to have adults oversee the process without derailing it by taking over. When a youth arrives at the Meadowlark Academy, she will be assigned to a group and its staff mentor. She will remain in this group throughout her stay. Each group will have responsibilities associated with it. Groups will be assigned varying details, community service projects, group aspects of the animal therapy program, sports/academic etc. teams, and group therapy sessions. In the group she will learn teamwork, sound decision making in the absence of specific guidelines, and how, through cooperation, significant accomplishments can be made. Staff are taught to understand the need for youth to learn how to work through their issues to help them prepare for similar situations they will have when returning to their familie

[exhausted]

Titter ye not Deborah

We have a place down the road from here called The Arrow riding School for the disabled

They take children with all disabilities, even those with behavioural and learning disabilities because horses are calming, also children need to place a special trust in such a powerful animal, medical insurance wil cover the fees - when I can get my boys to help me at the yard, I have 2 different kids on my hands, it's either be responsible or you're going to get a very large and very heavy animal kick, bite or trample you, they know this and take their responsibilities there very seriously, they also really enjoy the actual care of the horse, mucking out, making up feeds, hay etc - they have skills there that I didn't know they possessed

Roll on summer, they won't come up there when it's cold, dark & raining  :wink:

I lived and worked on a horse farm for a time. I hated it. Horses require care 7 days/week all year. No breaks. No holidays. Low pay. I did not find mucking stalls took much in the way of skill. The only reason I did it was my girlfriend at the time, was studying to be a large animal vet and lived on the horse farm. We were shacking up, as it were.

I learned plenty about horses including how to ride them (hunter/jumper) and care for them. So it was not a complete waste of time.

No kidding - i been doing it 27 years now  :-?