Friendly reminder.

[CCM girl 1989]

Joyce, you are right some kids do ask for help getting into some kind of treatment program. But, most do not. Nothing in life is guaranteed to bo a 100% safe. When we get in our cars the first thing in the morning to go to work, we risk getting into a accident.

For me, I would start dividing schools into catagories (types, and what they specialize in). Then I would grade them on their level of dicipline, and how strict they were. Therapy, and how much was available. The kind of staff they hired, glorified babysitters with little to no training, staff with knowledge and training provided by the school, staff that was trained and also had a 4 year degree in social work.

For me to sit down and do all this would take weeks to even come up with a system I would need to evaluate a school. As I said before I would have a psychologist on staff that would give me their professional opinion where they thought the child was at emotionally. I would take that into consideration, as well as what the parent had to say, and what the child was saying. After that, I would give them a few schools they could check out.

As far as telling people to get over it, and to not be whiners......well, eventually I hope they do get over it. You can only blame others for so long. I do believe that eventually you need to take some responsibility for where you're at in life. Everyone needs time to heal, but if you keep falling back on the past, and blaming the past you'll never move forward. Most of the world could care less what happened to you 5,10,15,20+ years ago.

CCM girl 1989


For the Guest,
By the way, I have a mare you fool. Those kinds of comments are the ones that unfortunately make the rest of you look so bad. And no, parents aren't going to take the time to sift through all this to get information when you say stuff like that. Get a hold of your sick fantasies!

[Anonymous]

If the site's going to be populated by survivors-turned-programmies, then maybe they shouldn't get information from it.

[Anonymous]

Joyce, you are right some kids do ask for help getting into some kind of treatment program. But, most do not. Nothing in life is guaranteed to bo a 100% safe. When we get in our cars the first thing in the morning to go to work, we risk getting into a accident.

For me, I would start dividing schools into catagories (types, and what they specialize in). Then I would grade them on their level of dicipline, and how strict they were. Therapy, and how much was available. The kind of staff they hired, glorified babysitters with little to no training, staff with knowledge and training provided by the school, staff that was trained and also had a 4 year degree in social work.

For me to sit down and do all this would take weeks to even come up with a system I would need to evaluate a school. As I said before I would have a psychologist on staff that would give me their professional opinion where they thought the child was at emotionally. I would take that into consideration, as well as what the parent had to say, and what the child was saying. After that, I would give them a few schools they could check out.

As far as telling people to get over it, and to not be whiners......well, eventually I hope they do get over it. You can only blame others for so long. I do believe that eventually I want you to take some responsibility for where you're at in life. Everyone needs time to heal, but if you keep falling back on the past, and blaming the past you'll never move forward. Most of the world could care less what happened to you 5,10,15,20+ years ago.

CCM girl 1989


For the Guest,
By the way, I have a mare you fool. Those kinds of comments are the ones that unfortunately make the rest of you look so bad. And no, parents aren't going to take the time to sift through all this to get information when you say stuff like that. Get a hold of your sick fantasies!

Sue Cheff already did that. She got sued by parents after she refered kids to abusive programs. Do you think you and her are any different?

[Anonymous]

When CCM keeps insisting "I would need to evaluate a school" she continues to flaunt her stupidity, her arrogance, and her total lack of an credentials or ability to ever do such a thing.
This referral business is all about money and has nothing to do with "the best interest of children."

[Anonymous]

CCM - At any point, would the child, him/her self be evalated by a professional child psychologist who has no ties with the referral agency or a program?

What YOU or your on-staff psychologist and/or a program admissions rep thinks is irrevelant.  It's what an independent professionally trained person who has personally met and talked with the child thinks after evaluating all the facts, the child's medical and mental history, etc.

If you can not see the this, than you are not just ignorant, you are pathetic.

 :flame:

[Anonymous]

You must of missed the part in CCM's post where she said professional means nothing than a few letters by a name to her. When you think anyone is qualified to imprison kids, dangerous things happen.

[Ganja]

For the Guest,
By the way, I have a mare you fool. Those kinds of comments are the ones that unfortunately make the rest of you look so bad. And no, parents aren't going to take the time to sift through all this to get information when you say stuff like that. Get a hold of your sick fantasies!

If I look bad in your eyes, then I must certainly be doing something right. :lol:

Oh, and I think a lot of the parents get a laugh out of me publically humiliating a stupid self-centered bitch like you!  :rofl:    8-)

So you like licking your horsie's clam, eh?  :wink:  ::bwahaha::

[Anonymous]

Its not all that unusual for victims to become victimizers.  It is also quite common for some immigrants to this country to be the first to royally ream their fellow immigrants; newer immigrants make excellent prey for predators from their former countries because of trust.  Its not too surprising to see a former survivor becoming an a$$$$$dvocate.

[CCM girl 1989]

Thank god! You were wasting a lot of time on me. On to the next internet cruisade?!!!

[CCM girl 1989]

Rumors?

[Nihilanthic]

Joyce, you are right some kids do ask for help getting into some kind of treatment program. But, most do not. Nothing in life is guaranteed to bo a 100% safe. When we get in our cars the first thing in the morning to go to work, we risk getting into a accident.

For me, I would start dividing schools into catagories (types, and what they specialize in). Then I would grade them on their level of dicipline, and how strict they were. Therapy, and how much was available. The kind of staff they hired, glorified babysitters with little to no training, staff with knowledge and training provided by the school, staff that was trained and also had a 4 year degree in social work.

For me to sit down and do all this would take weeks to even come up with a system I would need to evaluate a school. As I said before I would have a psychologist on staff that would give me their professional opinion where they thought the child was at emotionally. I would take that into consideration, as well as what the parent had to say, and what the child was saying. After that, I would give them a few schools they could check out.

As far as telling people to get over it, and to not be whiners......well, eventually I hope they do get over it. You can only blame others for so long. I do believe that eventually I want you to take some responsibility for where you're at in life. Everyone needs time to heal, but if you keep falling back on the past, and blaming the past you'll never move forward. Most of the world could care less what happened to you 5,10,15,20+ years ago.

CCM girl 1989


For the Guest,
By the way, I have a mare you fool. Those kinds of comments are the ones that unfortunately make the rest of you look so bad. And no, parents aren't going to take the time to sift through all this to get information when you say stuff like that. Get a hold of your sick fantasies!

Can you segregate strictness from... something actually useful and justified?

Would you weed out any and all arbitrary commitments to time spent in the program?

Would you weed out any and all isolation?

Would you weed out any and all COERCION?

Oh, and would you bother to address any other the same old grievances we have had for the past 30 some odd years?

[CCM girl 1989]

Deep thoughts by Niles...........who knows what the hell they mean though? But, they are deep. Very, very, deep. Only the brightness of the bunch will truely understand what he is saying. For the rest of us, we will suffer in darkness, and confusion, never fully understanding what the hell he means?!!!!!! LOL

[Nihilanthic]

Just who are you fooling here CCM?

You're either doing one of the best trolls in the history of Fornits, or someone who saw first hand what programs are like is trying to justify them and set up a continuum of strictness and therapy to grade programs  :roll:

Unless of course you can somehow justify involuntary programming. You ARE entitled to your opinions, but you are not entitled to take freedom and happiness away from children becuase of those opinions.

Oh, and you know how WWASPS didn't let you have any opinions?

So, just what program would let those kids have their own opinions about programs instead of punishing them for manipulation anyway?

[CCM girl 1989]

Nobody can fool you Niles. Especially not me. We used to share some things in common, as far as our views go. But, now I think we are way different. Life goes on!

[Nihilanthic]

So life goes on, unless you're a kid referred by CCM girl?

Ever thought about taking your logic the other way? Kids with involuntary "commitment" in a program can't have their life move on, they haven't 7th stepped/graduated/exit planned yet.

Why do you even still have that sig about control anyway?

I hope you're trolling, I would hate to know someone who firsthand spent years getting abused and neglected would further the same bullshit to the next generation, but its hardly unexpected.

In any event, I would like to ask WHY you feel its ok to do that, now.