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« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2007, 02:33:01 PM »
the child that died a couple of months ago (PK) i THINK, and i could be wrong, that he cut his wrists in the boys bathroom in the gym...i remember a second hanging attempt, but i thought that was another girl...but again, i could be wrong...
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« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2007, 03:18:58 PM »
Yes, that was the girl that turned blue and they had to fly the medivac in to save her. It's all in the 911 calls. I guess the 911 operators lied and made up these calls?
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« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2007, 03:46:31 PM »
I think everyone needs to just relax a little bit here.

Yes, there were many, many prevarications put forth in court by the HLA legal team (too many to list right here right now) to try to have the case dismissed.  The good news is that the judge refused to dismiss the case and will be weighing the evidence to form an opinion.

The evidence happens to be overwhelming with copious supporting documentation (6 separate versions of the parent manual, 911 call records, affadavits from witnesses, etc., etc., etc.) that will show the information put forth by HLA's attorneys is absolutely false.  The judge will see this and act accordingly.

Also, please remember that this is a process, not an event.  The judge will rule on certifying the class and then things will start to happen.  If the judge rules in favor of certifying the class the case will go to trial or be settled.  If the judge rules against the class certification, there will be an appeal.  When appeals are exhausted, if the class is not certified, the class will be dissolved and the plaintiffs will proceed individually with cases against HLA.

Just based on the weight of all of the evidence I personally have seen, I have great faith that the class will be certified and the case will move forward.  I just cannot see how any impartial reader could possibly conclude that HLA has committed no wrongdoing - it wouldn't pass the smell test.

As soon as I get more information I will pass it along.  In the meantime, sit tight and keep digging for evidence (as much as has been gathered, there is still a lot of it out there) and getting it to the attorneys.

Any questions, PM me.
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« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2007, 03:52:50 PM »
Actually I have one question to leave out in the open- at the rate that HLA is bleeding money, will ANYTHING be left over for the plaintiffs by the time the court system finally finishes with this lawsuit?
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« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2007, 04:05:34 PM »
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the child that died a couple of months ago (PK) i THINK, and i could be wrong, that he cut his wrists in the boys bathroom in the gym...i remember a second hanging attempt, but i thought that was another girl...but again, i could be wrong...


Boys bathroom in the academic building, he hung himself with a belt. He didn't die then, but he is dead now. OD-ed on Cough Syrup. Good job Bucci, another poor inmate dead!
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« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2007, 04:25:00 PM »
we are talking about the same person though, right...pk...
the od...is that what they found out cause i hadn't heard what the ruleing was...
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« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2007, 05:34:54 PM »
I heard that from a friend, you might know her. KW
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« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2007, 07:49:39 AM »
Quote from: ""Milk Gargling Death Penalty""
Actually I have one question to leave out in the open- at the rate that HLA is bleeding money, will ANYTHING be left over for the plaintiffs by the time the court system finally finishes with this lawsuit?


Well, Milk, you're correct.  HLA is hemorrhaging financially.

In fact, in court HLA's attorneys revealed that HLA is on the brink of financial ruin.  This statement is exactly the opposite of what they have posted on their website, i.e. HLA is fine and going about its business as usual.  

We all know that the former is the truth, but for argument's sake, let's assume that readers not familiar with HLA wouldn't know which is true.  However, the one thing any reader can see straight away is that one of those statements is necessarily a lie.

So, HLA parents and prospective HLA parents, which do you prefer to believe; that HLA is lying to its customers (you) or lying to the judge?  Pick one.

Either way, it illustrates the moral terpitude of the principals at HLA.
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« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2007, 08:12:12 AM »
Insurance pays claims.
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« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2007, 08:17:03 AM »
Deborah- they might have some trouble with their insurance coverage if there is a finding of fraud or willful misconduct. Sometimes there are exclusions for those kinds of things in the policies.  They might lose coverage, which could mean no $$$ for the plaintiffs even if they prevail.
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« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2007, 08:29:00 AM »
Is this still going on?

From a staff member:

"The attrition rate of counselors and students was so bad that Len instituted a bonus system based on how many students you retained in your PG. If you had a 100% retention rate you would get a bonus of 25% of your salary. (If) it went down to 50% retention that equaled something like at 7% bonus... Obviously this is a big ethical problem."

So, counselors were given financial incentives to keep their kids enrolled by any means necessary.

I have a strong suspicion that this is going to be a very big deal in the lawsuit.

Using a conflict of interest to increase the bottom line. What in hell were these people thinking? This is going to bite you, big time. This is such a clear violation of ethics and patient rights that I'm having a difficult time putting it into words.
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« Reply #41 on: February 02, 2007, 08:43:33 AM »
AFAIK it is, yes.
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« Reply #42 on: February 02, 2007, 12:03:36 PM »
Any word on when the judge is going to make a ruling?
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« Reply #43 on: February 02, 2007, 12:11:32 PM »
Not yet.  I assume it won't be long.  The case law is not very complicated, so I think most of the deliberation will be about the supporting documents/evidence submitted.
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« Reply #44 on: February 05, 2007, 01:45:22 PM »
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Any word on when the judge is going to make a ruling?


Hopefully this week.  The Judge seemed to pride himself on being a one-man lobby for private enterprise though, stating " I haven't certified a class since 1974.  They call me the chicken judge!" :roll:

One more reason to avoid lifetime appointments of these people...

I did hear that HLA (Len) filed papers with the court Friday stating that if the class were to be certified, the facility would close on March 1.

So, for all you employees, your job is riding on a coin flip, even though he keeps telling you it's "business as usual."
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