USMC in the house.

[Anonymous]

This board is pretty funny.
Ok I lied. It isnt funny at all.
I graduated Elan In October of 2001 after serving 14 months.
Elan was a scarry place to be.
But it had nothing to do with the people, or the program.
Witnessing the September 11th terrorist attacks made being in Elan very unsettling.

October 28th, I enlisted in the Marines and reported for basic training on January 15th 2002 at Parris Island South Carolina.
After basic training, I was moved to San Diego for tactical weapons training.
I spent 16 months working my ass off, learned how to hit a target with a bullet from 2000 yards away, and learned how to be invisible.

On August 4th, 2004 I boarded a plane.

6 days, 5 planes, two helicopters, and 4 continents later, I was in Iraq.

I was 22 years old, in a foreign country full of people who hated me.
Ive been home for 12 days.


While I was there, I saw children die. I saw children kill. I saw children suffer, and steal. I saw adults rape children, beat children, and I saw children as young as 13 give birth to more children. I saw some of those children starved to death, or burried in a hole at birth. I saw children who did the same thing every day. Beg for food, beg for water. Mothers begged me to shoot their children.

I was forced to kill children as young as 16.
If they had a weapon, and discharged that weapon, I was ordered to terminate them.
Period.

4 months ago I was shot in the head.
Nothing on the left side of my body works any more.
I spent 1 month in Germany, and 2 months in a US military hospital in London.


I have absolutely nothing to complain about except one thing.

What the fuck did any of you do after Elan?

What the fuck have you done for someone else after our country was attacked, and almost 3000 people died in New York City?

What the fuck have you been doing while 3000+ US soldiers have been killed in Iraq?

Sitting in here complaining about some guy named Marty?
Making up some stupid fucking story about Art, and Dave, and Phil and Bob and Joe fucking blow?

What the fuck do ANY of you have to complain about?
A silly fucking school in Maine that treated you with little or no respect? How many of you fucks deserved respect?
For what? Because your a fucking human being?


You assholes had a warm fucking bed to sleep in every night. You had food, you had television.
You had someone else PAYING for you to be in Elan regardless if they knew what goes on there or not.

Most of all, you fucks had an END in sight.


I went to Elan because I fucked up.
Illinois paid for me to be in Elan.

Let me rephrase that. Illinois TAXPAYERS paid for me to be in Elan.
I joined the military to pay Illinois back with my service regardless of the fact that I didnt like Elan, and Elan is a fucked up place I learned that nothing, even what you dont want is free.

Nobody in Elan is a demon. theres not one staff member there who wouldnt give up thier happiness for yours. I doubt anyone can disagree because every staff member in Elan gives up a normal life to BE a staff member.

Whether they did a good job with YOU or not, are they due a "thanks for trying"

They didnt fucking put you there! They didnt decide if you needed to be in Elan or not.

You fucking people are lost.
If you care so much about Elan and the children that are exposed to the people and the practices there tell me, what the fuck do you DO about it?
Join a website called "Fornits" and complain about what YOU went through. FUCK what YOU went through. Nobody fucking cares, especially when you are all foul mouthed disrespectful anonymous fucking punks who dont have the BALLS to stand up and say
THIS IS MY NAME AND THIS IS HOW I FEEL.

I thought I hated Elan once until I got back into the real world.
Heres what the real world is.
Fight for your country who will let you sit and rot in a foreign hospital.
Fight for your country who doesnt even know your name.
Fight and die for a country that takes its freedom for granted so much that it abuses that freedom by participating in websites like these the SAY but never DO.

Fuck all you snivelers. All this shit, and then some more about how "FORNITS" could be such a productive place?
Bullshit.
Fornits will never beanything but  a place for all you god damned crybabies to park you ass in a chair and complain.

[Anonymous]

I see big words from an anoynmous from this point of view too.

You dare complain about us not logging in? But yet you don't identify yourself?

Hypocrit...


Are we suppose to feel sorry for you cause you decided to join the Marines and got seriously injured? Though I have great respect for all the men and women who are currently in tours of duty, don't come here and paint a bad picture of us just because you fell like you can.


Where were you when the 9-11 attacks took place? Oh yea, thats right you were in Elan. Thats the same dumb statement like me saying I was helping dig through the rubble finding surviors. Who the fuck are you to come and judge us?

[Anonymous]

We don't complain about Marty. We ridicule him. Marty is too feeble-minded to complain about.

I agree with most of what you said except for the part about the staff "giving up their happiness" for ours. Some could care less if we were happy. Do you really think Tania Merette gave a shit?

While I respect your service to the country especially in light of a president's treason in sending you to get shot to Iraq for a bullshit war do you really think people are going to listen? You're wasting your breath.

[Anonymous]

I see big words from an anoynmous from this point of view too.

You dare complain about us not logging in? But yet you don't identify yourself?

Hypocrit...


Are we suppose to feel sorry for you cause you decided to join the Marines and got seriously injured? Though I have great respect for all the men and women who are currently in tours of duty, don't come here and paint a bad picture of us just because you fell like you can.


Where were you when the 9-11 attacks took place? Oh yea, thats right you were in Elan. Thats the same dumb statement like me saying I was helping dig through the rubble finding surviors. Who the fuck are you to come and judge us?

Im not judging you, Im asking you what the fuck you have to complain about from your comfy fucking chair.

Paint a picture of you just because I can?

Youve been holding the fucking paint brush all along.

Yes, I dare to post anon and criticize you for doing the same because my comments have nothing to do with anons who DONT spew shit all over this board.
Its a little like war. I kill people who kill people.
Is that hypocrisy?
Sorry I didnt write my name on the bullet that shot you down.

And dont tell me this shit about your great respect for military. Every time someone has something objective to say about the people who fight for this country, it starts with "I'd like to say that I have great respect for the men and women of the military BUT..."

This isnt about me, its about you and the rest of the lazy no good crybabies here who run your fucking mouths about injustice but dont do a fucking thing to change it.

A bullshit war?

Tell me about a war that isnt bullshit. Saddam Hussein murdered thousands and thousands of people.
This war isnt about oil, or WMD its about an oppressive, murderous, corrupt dictatorship that threatened and took the lives of innocent people. Thousands of them.
This war is about providing all people with freedom and equal rights who have been denied the basic freedoms you take for granted.

Listening to you fucks and reading complaints about the war with your bandwagon ideas and theories is nauseating.

Tell me, if your president and his crew of cronies murdered your family for their religious views...If your president was the wealthiest person in your country because his resolve to competition was murder. If your president counterfeited millions and millions of dollars (exactly the way Hitler did) that drive your economy into the ground, if your president was appointed to office rather than voted by a majority...would you give a fucking rats ass who came to your country and took him to jail?
Would you give a shit who it was in your country attempting to make peace between the four major religious groups who have been killing each other far longer than your president has even been alive?
Would you give a fucking shit who was offering you and your children equal rights and freedom?

Shit the fuck up.

[Anonymous]

Well, obviously a lot of people DO give a shit. That's why there's a civil war in Iraq now.  Even the GOP recognizes that.  In the past two days, Colin Powell and Newt Gingrich, STAUNCH Republicans who supported the war, said this war is bullshit and a failure.

And this isn't about spreading freedom or taking down terrorists.  If that was the case, we'd go into Afghanistan or Pakistan. This is Bush getting revenge for his daddy's unfinished business and inflating claims of WMDs and spreading false truths about links between Iraq and al Qaeda.

Bush doesn't "spread freedom." He squashes it. Anyone with a brain knows that. This war is stupider than Vietnam and like Vietnam, the government KNOWS we can't win and stays there anyway. All because Bush is insecure about his legacy and his dick size.

You, Mr. Marine, are the one who doesn't support your own troops if you believe this horseshit. As a paralyzed vet, you'd be a lot more useful at the forefront of anti-war protests. Think about it.

[Anonymous]

Tell me about a war that isnt bullshit. Saddam Hussein murdered thousands and thousands of people.
This war isnt about oil, or WMD its about an oppressive, murderous, corrupt dictatorship that threatened and took the lives of innocent people. Thousands of them.
This war is about providing all people with freedom and equal rights who have been denied the basic freedoms you take for granted


Very well said, I agree with your views 100%. Saddam was using Genocide on his own people.

Marty will always be that hi-yuh-yuh perverted Indian in my book.

[Anonymous]

How many of you fucks deserved respect?
For what? Because your a fucking human being?

Um, yes.

[Anonymous]

This war isnt about oil, or WMD its about an oppressive, murderous, corrupt dictatorship that threatened and took the lives of innocent people. Thousands of them.

This war is about providing all people with freedom and equal rights who have been denied the basic freedoms you take for granted.

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[xres8182]

This board is pretty funny.
Ok I lied. It isnt funny at all.
I graduated Elan In October of 2001 after serving 14 months.
Elan was a scarry place to be.
But it had nothing to do with the people, or the program.
Witnessing the September 11th terrorist attacks made being in Elan very unsettling.

October 28th, I enlisted in the Marines and reported for basic training on January 15th 2002 at Parris Island South Carolina.
After basic training, I was moved to San Diego for tactical weapons training.
I spent 16 months working my ass off, learned how to hit a target with a bullet from 2000 yards away, and learned how to be invisible.

On August 4th, 2004 I boarded a plane.

6 days, 5 planes, two helicopters, and 4 continents later, I was in Iraq.

I was 22 years old, in a foreign country full of people who hated me.
Ive been home for 12 days.


While I was there, I saw children die. I saw children kill. I saw children suffer, and steal. I saw adults rape children, beat children, and I saw children as young as 13 give birth to more children. I saw some of those children starved to death, or burried in a hole at birth. I saw children who did the same thing every day. Beg for food, beg for water. Mothers begged me to shoot their children.

I was forced to kill children as young as 16.
If they had a weapon, and discharged that weapon, I was ordered to terminate them.
Period.

4 months ago I was shot in the head.
Nothing on the left side of my body works any more.
I spent 1 month in Germany, and 2 months in a US military hospital in London.


I have absolutely nothing to complain about except one thing.

What the fuck did any of you do after Elan?

What the fuck have you done for someone else after our country was attacked, and almost 3000 people died in New York City?

What the fuck have you been doing while 3000+ US soldiers have been killed in Iraq?

Sitting in here complaining about some guy named Marty?
Making up some stupid fucking story about Art, and Dave, and Phil and Bob and Joe fucking blow?

What the fuck do ANY of you have to complain about?
A silly fucking school in Maine that treated you with little or no respect? How many of you fucks deserved respect?
For what? Because your a fucking human being?


You assholes had a warm fucking bed to sleep in every night. You had food, you had television.
You had someone else PAYING for you to be in Elan regardless if they knew what goes on there or not.

Most of all, you fucks had an END in sight.


I went to Elan because I fucked up.
Illinois paid for me to be in Elan.

Let me rephrase that. Illinois TAXPAYERS paid for me to be in Elan.
I joined the military to pay Illinois back with my service regardless of the fact that I didnt like Elan, and Elan is a fucked up place I learned that nothing, even what you dont want is free.

Nobody in Elan is a demon. theres not one staff member there who wouldnt give up thier happiness for yours. I doubt anyone can disagree because every staff member in Elan gives up a normal life to BE a staff member.

Whether they did a good job with YOU or not, are they due a "thanks for trying"

They didnt fucking put you there! They didnt decide if you needed to be in Elan or not.

You fucking people are lost.
If you care so much about Elan and the children that are exposed to the people and the practices there tell me, what the fuck do you DO about it?
Join a website called "Fornits" and complain about what YOU went through. FUCK what YOU went through. Nobody fucking cares, especially when you are all foul mouthed disrespectful anonymous fucking punks who dont have the BALLS to stand up and say
THIS IS MY NAME AND THIS IS HOW I FEEL.

I thought I hated Elan once until I got back into the real world.
Heres what the real world is.
Fight for your country who will let you sit and rot in a foreign hospital.
Fight for your country who doesnt even know your name.
Fight and die for a country that takes its freedom for granted so much that it abuses that freedom by participating in websites like these the SAY but never DO.

Fuck all you snivelers. All this shit, and then some more about how "FORNITS" could be such a productive place?
Bullshit.
Fornits will never beanything but  a place for all you god damned crybabies to park you ass in a chair and complain.

Congratulations for being a true american hero. Also a heartfelt thank you and I hope you recover fully from your disability. Before you judge the people that whine about their TC experience, contemplate the possibility that some may not have been prepared to deal with the situation the way you did. Personally I got out of Elan much the way I went in. Skeptical of the way I was being guided by authority figures. I always knew what I wanted to do, but I couldn't find anyone to help me get there. Anyway I also joined the military after elan,was a paratrooper in the 82nd airborne division,stationed at Ft. Bragg, N.C. and went for a ride to Grenada. Nothing compared to what todays G.I.'s are seeing. When I was in Elan I witnessed people being treated inhumanely by people who were not qualified to deal with mental illness. It was very disturbing. Surely you can understand that. I assume that you were there in the last 10 years and from what I've learned here things have changed there considerably. Maybe if you have the free time we could discuss how the program works now and your opinions about it's benefits. I am so sorry you had to take a bullet in the head,because of some scumbags oppression. I hope you got at least a silver star, and make sure you use you govt benefits

[Anonymous]

Well, obviously a lot of people DO give a shit. That's why there's a civil war in Iraq now.  Even the GOP recognizes that.  In the past two days, Colin Powell and Newt Gingrich, STAUNCH Republicans who supported the war, said this war is bullshit and a failure.

And this isn't about spreading freedom or taking down terrorists.  If that was the case, we'd go into Afghanistan or Pakistan. This is Bush getting revenge for his daddy's unfinished business and inflating claims of WMDs and spreading false truths about links between Iraq and al Qaeda.

Bush doesn't "spread freedom." He squashes it. Anyone with a brain knows that. This war is stupider than Vietnam and like Vietnam, the government KNOWS we can't win and stays there anyway. All because Bush is insecure about his legacy and his dick size.

You, Mr. Marine, are the one who doesn't support your own troops if you believe this horseshit. As a paralyzed vet, you'd be a lot more useful at the forefront of anti-war protests. Think about it.

Enjoy your anon status.


Youre obviously influenced by liberal media. Conspiracy theorists. And delusion.

Youre an idiot. You say GW is finishing his dads business. WHAT business?
SR went to Iraq to defend Saudi Arabia moron.

Saddam was removed from power by the US because Saddam is a murderous dictator and was a legitimate threat to peace in the middle east.

You think its a worthless war only because you have no IDEA what is going on there.
Heres a hint moron. The UN did not give unilateral support to a declaration of war NOT because it doubted or questioned the legitimacy of removing Hussein....
Several UN countries had, and still have monetary interest in Iraq.

Try to picture reality for just a second. The war in Iraq would still exist if the US and its allies left.  There are 4 different groups who want not only control, but simply a voice in government.  Some of these groups are radical, violent, and murderous.
Then theres insurgents. Iranians, Turks, etc. Who would LOVE to take control of Iraqs resources. If the US pulled out now the middle east would erupt in violence murder and genocide.

Whats so difficult to understand about that?

You armchair theorists with your "the war is illegal"
Just because you heard it on the TV doesnt mean its anywhere near accurate idiot.
The US and many other countries removed Saddam from power as a final option. SR didnt "fail" to finish a job asshole, and if thats your reasoning, how would it have been OK if SR DID "finish the job"during the dessert shield campaign?

You are an idiot and know nothing about this war and the US involvement. Shut up and eat your corn flakes.

[Anonymous]

..But this isnt about the war and your uneducated opinion of it or that you'd prefer to jump on a conspiracy theory bandwagon because youre too stupid to seek the truth by your own means.

Its not about the fact that you are a fucking idiot and know nothing about why your country is in the middle east.

Its not about the fact that you are a fucking SHEEP and a victim of popular media.


Its about the fact that your a crybaby. Elan this and Elan that, Marty this and Marty that. Art this and Art that.
Just because soldiers fight and die together doesnt mean they like each other. We work towards a common goal.
You people have no idea about functional relationships. You all lash out at each other, and ridicule each other, critisize each other with insults and pure fucking vulgar fiction.
This is about Elan, not YOUR opinion of the people who went there and your vulgar musings.
Agree to disagree and get back to the goal of this site. To confront the people responsible for doing what they do to children and either stick up for whats going on there, or do something to change it instead of running your fucking mouth..
Selfish fucks.

[Anonymous]

How many of you fucks deserved respect?
For what? Because your a fucking human being?

Um, yes.

Uhhm, no stupid.
Just because youre a human being doesnt mean you deserve anything more than the air you fucking breath...

[Anonymous]

..But this isnt about the war and your uneducated opinion of it or that you'd prefer to jump on a conspiracy theory bandwagon because youre too stupid to seek the truth by your own means.

Its not about the fact that you are a fucking idiot and know nothing about why your country is in the middle east.

Its not about the fact that you are a fucking SHEEP and a victim of popular media.


Its about the fact that your a crybaby. Elan this and Elan that, Marty this and Marty that. Art this and Art that.
Just because soldiers fight and die together doesnt mean they like each other. We work towards a common goal.
You people have no idea about functional relationships. You all lash out at each other, and ridicule each other, critisize each other with insults and pure fucking vulgar fiction.
This is about Elan, not YOUR opinion of the people who went there and your vulgar musings.
Agree to disagree and get back to the goal of this site. To confront the people responsible for doing what they do to children and either stick up for whats going on there, or do something to change it instead of running your fucking mouth..
Selfish fucks.

 
 :tup:

[Anonymous]

Well, obviously a lot of people DO give a shit. That's why there's a civil war in Iraq now.  Even the GOP recognizes that.  In the past two days, Colin Powell and Newt Gingrich, STAUNCH Republicans who supported the war, said this war is bullshit and a failure.

And this isn't about spreading freedom or taking down terrorists.  If that was the case, we'd go into Afghanistan or Pakistan. This is Bush getting revenge for his daddy's unfinished business and inflating claims of WMDs and spreading false truths about links between Iraq and al Qaeda.

Bush doesn't "spread freedom." He squashes it. Anyone with a brain knows that. This war is stupider than Vietnam and like Vietnam, the government KNOWS we can't win and stays there anyway. All because Bush is insecure about his legacy and his dick size.

You, Mr. Marine, are the one who doesn't support your own troops if you believe this horseshit. As a paralyzed vet, you'd be a lot more useful at the forefront of anti-war protests. Think about it.

Enjoy your anon status.


Youre obviously influenced by liberal media. Conspiracy theorists. And delusion.

Youre an idiot. You say GW is finishing his dads business. WHAT business?
SR went to Iraq to defend Saudi Arabia moron.

Saddam was removed from power by the US because Saddam is a murderous dictator and was a legitimate threat to peace in the middle east.

You think its a worthless war only because you have no IDEA what is going on there.
Heres a hint moron. The UN did not give unilateral support to a declaration of war NOT because it doubted or questioned the legitimacy of removing Hussein....
Several UN countries had, and still have monetary interest in Iraq.

Try to picture reality for just a second. The war in Iraq would still exist if the US and its allies left.  There are 4 different groups who want not only control, but simply a voice in government.  Some of these groups are radical, violent, and murderous.
Then theres insurgents. Iranians, Turks, etc. Who would LOVE to take control of Iraqs resources. If the US pulled out now the middle east would erupt in violence murder and genocide.

Whats so difficult to understand about that?

You armchair theorists with your "the war is illegal"
Just because you heard it on the TV doesnt mean its anywhere near accurate idiot.
The US and many other countries removed Saddam from power as a final option. SR didnt "fail" to finish a job asshole, and if thats your reasoning, how would it have been OK if SR DID "finish the job"during the dessert shield campaign?

You are an idiot and know nothing about this war and the US involvement. Shut up and eat your corn flakes.

Very well said. I couldn't have said it any better. The people complaining about the war are nothing but liberal democrap jackasses who want to give away money to the lazy poor ghetto trash and raise taxes and fuck up the economy even more.

If the US hadn't taken action against Saddam, the outcome would have progressed far worse. We the United States don't use Genocide on our people, we are civil and often to generous of a nation.
Our Nation was at a risk from these Terroists, 9-11 is a perfect example Bunch of fuckin idiot cowards that blow themselves up thinking that they will go to a better place and be allowed to bring 10 close relatives/ friends with them.
Taking over Iraq was a great descion and stopping Saddam and holding him accountable was another great descion.

You were there, and you know the truth because you experienced first hand what it is like over there.

[Anonymous]

Very well said. I couldn't have said it any better

No shit you couldnt have said it any better, because your a fucking moron.