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thoughts about hyde
gary eskow:
Your account of your Hyde experience is very illuminating. Is your Hyde experience typical, from what you can tell? My family and I have considered Hyde. What you have to say is very troubling.
Given what you have to say, would you advise parents to stay away from Hyde?
I also wonder whether the controversy related to Hyde threatens its future. Are they now having enrollment problems?
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Did you read my report? Where did you see it?
I would not advise parents to eliminate Hyde from consideration, but would recommend caution. Without question there are students and families who have grown in this environment. Generally, these are students without serious emotional or medical problems who need some guidance and are not particularly rebellious.
Fundamentally, my Hyde experience mirrors the stories of many students regarding the hypocrisy that is practiced there. That Mr. Gauld is allowed to behave in the most startling manner and repeatedly break the most fundamental "principles"of Hyde- and the mandates of common decency- without being challenged by any staff member, encourages the rest of the faculty to behave in a similar manner. This brings some real problems, the main one being that the kids see this duplicity- absolutely, for sure. Many, many of them told me so during my time at the school. As a result, some of the positive lessons that are being taught, often by caring but inexperienced personnel- but also by some nut cases who have worked their way into the system- are lost.
With regard to the school's finacial situation, I have no information on the state of their funding, or financial health.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""gary eskow"" ---Your account of your Hyde experience is very illuminating. Is your Hyde experience typical, from what you can tell? My family and I have considered Hyde. What you have to say is very troubling.
Given what you have to say, would you advise parents to stay away from Hyde?
I also wonder whether the controversy related to Hyde threatens its future. Are they now having enrollment problems?
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Did you read my report? Where did you see it?
I would not advise parents to eliminate Hyde from consideration, but would recommend caution. Without question there are students and families who have grown in this environment. Generally, these are students without serious emotional or medical problems who need some guidance and are not particularly rebellious.
Fundamentally, my Hyde experience mirrors the stories of many students regarding the hypocrisy that is practiced there. That Mr. Gauld is allowed to behave in the most startling manner and repeatedly break the most fundamental "principles"of Hyde- and the mandates of common decency- without being challenged by any staff member, encourages the rest of the faculty to behave in a similar manner. This brings some real problems, the main one being that the kids see this duplicity- absolutely, for sure. Many, many of them told me so during my time at the school. As a result, some of the positive lessons that are being taught, often by caring but inexperienced personnel- but also by some nut cases who have worked their way into the system- are lost.
With regard to the school's finacial situation, I have no information on the state of their funding, or financial health.
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What you say makes sense to me, that the basic concept behind Hyde is admirable. But from everything I've heard, Hyde's implementation leaves a lot to be desired. I've spoken to lots of people who know about Hyde from personal experience. There's a clear pattern in their comments: The model sounds good but there are too many Hyde staff who are emotionally immature, power control freaks, and insensitive to many students' serious emotional problems. Also, Joe Gauld's name keeps coming up as a sad example of someone who is so caught up in his own consuming needs that he ends up serving as a terrible and hypocritical role model for students.
You asked where I read your account of Hyde. A friend told me about it after she saw it on a web site called the Isac Corp. (which monitors schools and programs for troubled teens where there apparently have been problems):
Here is your account on that web site: http://www.isaccorp.org/hyde/eskowstatement.pdf
This web site includes a lot of information that is very critical of Hyde: http://www.isaccorp.org/documentsam.asp#hyde
What do you know about this web site?
gary eskow:
"What you say makes sense to me, that the basic concept behind Hyde is admirable. But from everything I've heard, Hyde's implementation leaves a lot to be desired. I've spoken to lots of people who know about Hyde from personal experience. There's a clear pattern in their comments: The model sounds good but there are too many Hyde staff who are emotionally immature, power control freaks, and insensitive to many students' serious emotional problems. Also, Joe Gauld's name keeps coming up as a sad example of someone who is so caught up in his own consuming needs that he ends up serving as a terrible and hypocritical role model for students.
You asked where I read your account of Hyde. A friend told me about it after she saw it on a web site called the Isac Corp. (which monitors schools and programs for troubled teens where there apparently have been problems)"
I would agree completely with the information about Hyde you've heard from others. In all fairness, families in crisis don't always have the time (or energy) to research these schools fully- and let's be honest, there might not be a perfect place for some kids. But without question Joe Gauld is a deeply disturbed guy who was once booted from Hyde himself by the school board. Sadly, the school would have been better off if he had never been allowed to return.
I was contacted by Isac, had a good chat with the site's leader, and allowed my account to be posted there. That's all I know about them.
If you are considering sending your child to a boarding school, I certainly hope that you all are doing well and are comfortable with the advice you are being given.
daedalus:
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--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Also needs repeating...no one has an exclusive right to judgement...
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Since you've been there and I haven't, what are your thoughts on daedalus' experience?
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First of all, Daedalus said he just graduated in 2006. In 10-15 years, his views may change from those of a young, angry kid, who obviously still has some issues. He may come to appreciate some of the things he learned (or resisted learning) at Hyde. Second, he misrepresents and distorts some of the things he says (of which I know firsthand) which causes me to question the rest of what he says that I don't know firsthand. Always question someone who has an agenda, as I'm sure you will question what I say Bonney... my thoughts on this subject.
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i am challanging you and what you posted about my experience at hyde.
please elaborate SPECIFICALLY about what i distorted or exaggerated.
your assumption is that because i recently graduated and left with a dissenting openion i am still struggling with misguided anger and what you call 'issues', although you cant say what. your narrow mindedness and inability to consider alternatives to what you believe in is disgusting and traagically typical. i have problems. and so do you. we might handle them in different ways, but you dont know me, and trying to project a complete strangers feelings 15 years into the future is beyond stupid. you dont know shit about my perspecive, and i dont care where youve been. i will not change my openion, for one simple reason: i dont need a moral authority to help me be my best.
if you are a parent considering hyde, read this persons comment and sit quietly for a few minutes and think about this method of reasoning. now imagine it being implemented on an institutional level in some very formative years of your childs life. frightening.
oh yeah. guest, if you are reading this: please, sterilize yourself. in saying this i get that much closer to everything i am protesting, but screw it. you should not be allowed to raise hamsters let alone a human being
if you are considering hyde
daedalus:
dis regard that last little snippet at the end. its a typo
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