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Offline Kathy

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I heard ART retired
« on: December 30, 2001, 03:08:00 PM »
Do you think the SEED is still open?  If so, who is running it now?
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2001, 03:17:00 PM »
Oh, I know it's still open. Bill and I took a ride down there not too long ago. And, more recently, The Seed just made a contribution to some charity or other.

Check recent (and old) news on Art Barker
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2001, 08:58:00 PM »
where did you here he retired? I would be interested in that..
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2001, 09:19:00 PM »
Check the link to "recent (and older) news on Art Barker" in my last message. Kathy turned those up. In fact, Kathy's probably turned up the bulk of what's in there.

I just stuffed them in the archive. Any time you get an itch to go searching around, just send the goodies my way. It takes under a minute to add a new file to the archive.

(I guess I should make the links a little bit more noticable then?)
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« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2002, 12:23:00 AM »
Ok, I read the news artice. 50 grand to
make a wish foundation upon the retirement of Art Barker in December, 2001. I bet most people dont realize two things: 1) Art was still running the Seed 2 freaken weeks ago!
2) that much money is floating around to make donations with.
Amazing.
I will find out whom is running the thing now, but I will bet anyone a nickel that it is Libby or Suzi. Any takers? Bizzare? you bet.
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« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2002, 05:19:00 PM »
Or that it's basically all generated on slave labour.

I dunno about what's going on there lately. But I ran into a couple of Seedlings around `88 or so. They were mid 20's, identical haircuts, vacant grins and Seed T-shirts. I told them my name and said "Say hi to Art for me." They looked at eachother like I'd threatened to kill them or something then RAN out the door of the doughnut shop with their 3 dozen doughnuts. I assume they're still the same.
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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2002, 10:44:00 PM »
$50,000 in November 2001 to Make-A-Wish Foundation...

$100,000 in September 2001 to Habitat for Humanity...

Wow...
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2002, 05:44:00 PM »
Check this out - another 50,000 and it claims the program is retired as well.


http://www.caninecompanions.org/regions ... orida.html

This is the former web. Can any one say if that was the last know seed site ?
Phone is disconnected.
http://www.the-seed.org/abt_seed.htm
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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2002, 07:36:00 AM »
WOW! Great Find!  Is it that he's getting old, (VERY!) and nervous?--is he trying to buy his way into heaven?

Wow, to think that this decrepid (sp?)little old man started all this trouble! Who'd of thunk it by just lookin' at him.
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« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2002, 03:29:00 PM »
I just found about about another Synanon spin off in the Miami area around the late `70's. The place was called Operation Reentry.

I don't really look at Art as having started anything. I think Chuck Dederich and Jim Jones were probably the pioneers in brainwashing as therapy. But they would have been nowhere and Art, Joe Ricci et al would never have been in business if it hadn't been for NIDA funding, lobbying and general protection and promotion.

Art was always a very spooky little man. Libbi and Shelly too. They probably still believe they're some kind of messianic trinity.
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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2002, 05:11:00 PM »
No, you gotta give credit where credit is due. Art pioneered the synanon concept for non addicted youthfull drug experimenters, and was direct inspiration for the straight. Most of the other synanon's never had the far reaching power that the Seed and then the straight seemed to garner.
As far as Art, libbi, and shelly being spooky, hell ya, just look at that picture, but I no longer feared them once I broke away from my father. He yielded the power to put me there, and when I took that away from him, Art & co became powerless. Ken is right, I should have thrown his ass in the pool.
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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2002, 09:38:00 PM »
I didn't realize that these people you spoke of (Lybbi and shelly) were also in the picture.  Who are they in relation to Art.  I see that Shelly has the same last name, she looks like maybe she's a daughter?? and the other one looks like maybe his wife??? I dunno, explain please... this isn't the first time I've heard theses names pop up along side of Art's name.

  Anybody know why he would have shut down the place instead of passing it on to one of his prodigies??
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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2002, 10:08:00 PM »
Well, as you can tell, Shelly is a bit younger than Art. I believe she was in the program and married Art. When I was in the Seed, Libbi was Libbi McDonald, and she was senior staff of the St Pete Seed. She seemed to run the place, but no one really knew as Art Flew in weekly. Somewhere in there, she was adopted by Art and Shelly and became Libbi Barker. She now goes by Libbi Barker Kienzle, as she has been married to another seedling for some 20 years. I was contacted by his sister last year to try to get him to call home. Seems he has cut all ties with his family also.
  So actually, Shelly is his wife, and Libbi is their "Daughter".
Apparantly, they are still one big happy family.
Clear it up?
I think this little essay best described the difference between the seed and the straight. The straight was a cult like place. The seed, an actual cult.
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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2002, 11:03:00 PM »
Ok, now that is weird.  Gross!! I haven't got anything else to say...  I've got to go pick my jaw up off of the ground...
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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2002, 03:58:00 AM »
Yuck!!!!
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