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« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2006, 12:04:34 PM »
Great interview. Makes you go hmmmmmmm............
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« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2006, 01:23:40 PM »
I agree, great interview.  Heatbreaking to say the least.  It also shows that Carey is out there trying to bring attention to the fact that these schools even exist.  Sue Scheff is busy referring (for a profit) kids to these exact same places, just not WWASP schools.

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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2006, 12:26:06 PM »
Is this verdict going to be appealed or not?  Surely there is an org out there that would at least take a look at the situation.  Appeals are based on court (trial) record.  The judge's rulings, etc.  It's a matter of getting the transcripts and studying them, as I understand it.  If an appeal is successful, there would be a new trial.   Is that correct?
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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2006, 01:48:20 PM »
I suppose everyone is forgetting the fact Carey Bock sold out to WWASPS. She sold her hard drive with everyone's private information, angering everyone involved? You all remember, those involved. And now she's some sort of a hero? Come on, folks. Are you that gullible? Anything to destroy Sue will make you all happy but yet none of you have ever taken the time to learn for yourselves what is truly happening. never gone to meet her, talk to parents and kids who she's involved with. Have you? You get one side and only one side and that is very dangerous. Also why the Internet can be so damaging. You'll get it one day - if it happens to you.
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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2006, 02:13:01 PM »
I never said Carey was a hero - and neither is Sue.

From an eariler post in case you missed it:

I'll finish by saying that while I do believe what Carey Bock has done is despicable; what Susan had done, and is doing is worse.

Carey betrayed a bunch of adults. Its possibly true (I believe it is) that she greatly damaged the effectiveness of some of these adults in helping relieve other's children from WWASPS' treatment.

But Susan has proven her willingness to over look abusive treatment, if it is putting money in her pocket. Not only over look it - but attack the parents and children trying to tell her about it. And in my POV, that is much worse than what Carey did - as awful as that was.

Personally, I despise them both. Generally, I think they deserve one another. But this judgment is insane. Carey did no damage to anything of Susan's, excepting her bloated ego.
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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2006, 02:19:27 PM »
BTW

///Also why the Internet can be so damaging. You'll get it one day - if it happens to you.///

It HAS happened to me. Both these bitches have trashed me and I have suffered threw far more graphic perv posts than the infamous Red Panties post that had Susan so hysterical.

Somehow I survived. Didn't do me any lasting harm. Didn't harm Susan any either. It just really pissed her off.
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« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2006, 02:20:38 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
I never said Carey was a hero - and neither is Sue.

From an eariler post in case you missed it:

I'll finish by saying that while I do believe what Carey Bock has done is despicable; what Susan had done, and is doing is worse.

Carey betrayed a bunch of adults. Its possibly true (I believe it is) that she greatly damaged the effectiveness of some of these adults in helping relieve other's children from WWASPS' treatment.

But Susan has proven her willingness to over look abusive treatment, if it is putting money in her pocket. Not only over look it - but attack the parents and children trying to tell her about it. And in my POV, that is much worse than what Carey did - as awful as that was.

Personally, I despise them both. Generally, I think they deserve one another. But this judgment is insane. Carey did no damage to anything of Susan's, excepting her bloated ego.


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« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2006, 03:32:17 PM »
I don't approve of what Carey did selling out to WWASPs.

DISCLAIMER: The following is all entirely my personal opinion:

I don't think Carey caused Sue one tiny bit of genuine economic or social damage by anything untruthful she said about Sue.

Carey came across to me as a bit of an idiot, and I can't see any way she would have possibly been credible enough to actually damage Sue.

I'm not a fan of Sue Scheff, either.

I just don't subscribe to the notion that my enemy's enemy is my friend.  If someone on "my side" on an issue is a fool, I'd rather she realize she's a fool and shut up rather than give the other side ammunition.

I think an 11.3 million judgment is absolutely outrageous.

A fundamental aspect of defamation law is that the person has not only said false, defamatory things about you but that the person's statements have caused you social and/or financial harm because people believed them and treated you differently.

Many people have decided not to like Sue and not to deal with Sue, but none of it is attributable to Carey.

It's just like LItchfield's lawyer's complaints about another poster to Fornits.  Sure the poster was saying false, defamatory things about him, but nobody believed the guy because the poster was clearly using that web identity primarily for satire.  People who already hate Litchfield found it funny, but it influenced nobody's opinion to in any way socially or financially shun Litchfield.  Nobody who didn't already hate him was going to take that clear satire seriously, anyway.

Same with Carey.  I don't care if some of the things she said about Sue did turn out to be demonstrably false or not.  Only a total idiot would have changed their mind about anybody or anything based on Carey's say so.

I suppose Sue could have chosen to argue that total idiots were her primary customer base, but if I were her I wouldn't have wanted to assert that on the record in court.

This case should have been dismissed on the grounds that Sue did not suffer financial or social harm.

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« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2006, 08:56:49 PM »
Julie,
It certainly doesn't seem that Sue Scheff suffered any financial harm anywhere along the way.  She's making big money in this sordid teen help industry.

But how does one gage "social harm?"
WHO ARE SUE SCHEFF"S SOCIAL CIRCLE OF FRIENDS?
It seems like she only has these hanger-ons that last as long as she has some use for them...then there's some big blow up, and they ain't friends no more--or some such thing.

I get the "gist" that this rich-trust-fund-baby-world is some made up thing to go along with the "rich bitch persona."
Why else the regular job on the phone at Humana or where-ever?
Why lie about having a college degree?
Why spread all your personal family business all over the internet?
People from a "certain social class" just don't behave, and speak that way.
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« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2006, 10:02:46 PM »
I get the "gist" that this rich-trust-fund-baby-world is some made up thing to go along with the "rich bitch persona."
Why else the regular job on the phone at Humana or where-ever?

I also wondered about this inconsistency. She'll tell you how she is a trust fund baby and never worked a day in her life; also never did a lick of house work; never swept a floor or dusted a table or did a sink full of dishes or washed her own dog.

On another day, she'll explain how she was working for Humana.

Was that a hobby?  :roll:

But, its clear she dose have a lot of money coming from somewhere that doesn't appear to be regular employment.
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« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2006, 10:33:30 PM »
That's the rub: "trust fund babies" just don't talk about it....and that's called CLASS, you know?

Only those who "just got some money" yak about money...and usually they don't want to be too forthcoming about exactly where the money came from.
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« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2006, 05:10:10 PM »
Regarding an APPEAL in Broward County:

Looks like it's about $350.00 bucks and you only have 30 days from the time judgement was entered (I believe, you need to confirm that yourself though as I am not a lawyer!!!)

http://www.clerk-17th-flcourts.org/bcco ... ticeappeal
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