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« on: October 17, 2006, 10:50:58 AM »
Folks, google "Sue Scheff" in Google news, and take a look at the articles. She's being written up as far away as India and Australia.  This case is turning out to be historical.

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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2006, 10:52:27 AM »
OK lets all googel - and lets all write the reporters who've covered this account with the rest of the story.
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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2006, 02:32:20 PM »
http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/l ... 62871.html
Law reins in wild webbers
Email Print Normal font Large font Kenneth Nguyen
October 13, 2006

BLOGGERS beware: thoughtless musings in cyberspace can have costly consequences.

That's one lesson that might be gleaned from a Florida jury's decision last week to order a Louisiana woman to pay $US11.3 million ($15.2 million) in compensation, after she used an internet forum to accuse another woman of being a con artist and a fraud. The damages award is believed to be the largest relating to amateur postings on the internet.

The Louisiana woman, Carey Bock, posted the accusations against Sue Scheff, of Florida, on Fornits.Com, a bulletin board used by parents of troubled teenagers.
[Has the traffic increased? How many struggling parents are finding Fornits?]

For Australian defamation experts, the US jury's order is a reminder that online communications are subject to the same legal risks as older media such as newspapers.

"Bloggers do need to take care because liability can attach to what you write," said a defamation law lecturer at the University of Sydney, David Rolph. "Given the global nature of the internet, they could be liable under not just Australian law but under the laws of other places as well."

A blog entry about a person will be considered defamatory if reasonable people would think less of the person because of the entry.
[Even if it's true?]

Other lawsuits before the US courts include that of Todd Hollis, a Pittsburgh lawyer, whose name appeared on DontDateHimGirl.com, a website on which women comment on men they claim to have known.

Ms Scheff said she was still paying off the legal fees for her action and accepted she would get little of the $US11.3 million. "But this award is vindication," she said. "I hope it does make people think twice about what they post on the internet. When people post, they are writing from emotion, and it can be very damaging."

Dr Rolph said Australian laws would not allow compensation orders here to be as large as that awarded in Ms Scheff's case. Uniform defamation laws, which came into effect in January, cap damages at $250,000 and prohibit the awarding of punitive damages. Make an online accusation against an American, though, and a damages bill in the millions could yet eventuate.
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Hidden Lake Academy, after operating 12 years unlicensed will now be monitored by the state. Access information on the Federal Class Action lawsuit against HLA here: http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=17700

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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2006, 03:36:38 PM »
The few supporters that sue-Sue has I have finally gotten a straight answer as to why.  Certain people, whom are against the teen lock up industry are concentrating their efforts to stop WWASP.  It does appear that sue-Sue is against WWASP.  Therefore, her few supporters are standing by her in that cause.  The fact that sue-Sue makes a profit off of sending kids to other lock up units, doesn't really matter.  
I guess my point on this, I am against the whole teen lock up industry.  Not just WWASP.  This would be the people profiting from this industry, such as sue-Sue.
Kind of like when the police let all the little druggies free if they will help nab the big dealer.
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2006, 06:06:03 PM »
I googled per Berryman's suggestion and among the selections on 1st page were these:

Sponsored Links
 
Sue Scheff
Documentary film re: Paula Reeves
exposing child abuse at WWASP.
paulareeves.com

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WebWire® | Sue Scheff And Florida Company Win Empty Victory Over ...BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA (October 6, 2006) - On September 19, 2006, Parents Universal Resource Experts, Inc. (PURE) and its founder, Sue Scheff of Weston, ...
www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?aId=21761 - 20k - Oct 17, 2006 - Cached - Similar pages

http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?aId=21761

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[PDF] Statement from Richard and Joyce Harris Parents of a Former ...File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Another person who misrepresented Whitmore Academy to us was Sue Scheff of ... Sue Scheff said that she visited the Whitmore Academy often and that a person ...

http://www.isaccorp.org/whitmore/jharris.pdf

- Similar pages

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cafety.org - Re:Paula Reeves :TRANQUILITY BAY STEVEN, LAYNE, DA ...3) Sue Scheff apparently has made somewhere in the region of over 70 referrals ... 4) Sue Scheff has repeatedly made excuses for abusive programs she makes ...
cafety.org/index.php?option=com_joomlaboard&Itemid=26&func=view&id=228&catid=4&limit=... - 50k - Cached - Similar pages

http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_ ... itstart=20

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Great suggestion Berryman, thanks!
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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2006, 07:44:35 PM »
Oh NO, I don't think Jeff meant for his post to be construed this way.  Oooops.  Kinda made Sue look worse than what I already thought of her.  Oh well, THANKS!!!!
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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2006, 08:11:31 PM »
Jeff Berryman, thank you for the GOOGLE suggestion.  There is a lot to read about Sue-SUE:

www.dailybuisinessreview.com
"Sue Scheff is simply another person in the industry of people who makes money from the plight of frightented partents.

www.flyinghedgehogs.com
"I think sue scheff is a "crook" a "con artist" and a "fraud."  She's probably also ugly and unlike the poor woman she just won 11.3 million from."

www.isaccorp.org
Statement from Susan Schacherer...
"My daugher was placed at Whitmore at the recommendation of Sue Scheff.  I had expressed my concerns about my daughter being placed in a school......"

www,oyredeceit.com
Pure Rebuttal
"Help your teens truth on Pure foundation Sue Scheff on the lies she has told...Sue Scheff was a World Wide Association supporter and....."

Jeff, it just goes on and on.  Thanks.
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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2006, 08:37:26 PM »
Sue Scheff and PURE Win Empty Victory over New Orleans Mom
 
International Survivors Action Committee (ISAC)
10/9/2006 9:21:45 PM

BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA (October 10, 2006) - On September 19, 2006, Parents Universal Resource Experts, Inc. (PURE) and its founder, Sue Scheff of Weston, Florida won an $11.3 million dollar victory of hollow sorts over a single mom from New Orleans by alleging defamation over the Internet. Although it is doubtful the verdict will be collected, it may serve to chill free speech of those attempting to expose child abuse or untoward business practices.


The mom, Carey Bock, had publicly criticized the business practices of Scheff and PURE in referring children to allegedly abusive programs. Scheff met the mother?s complaints with a lawsuit reminiscent of one filed against Scheff in 2001.


The mom lacked the financial resources to defend herself or to attend her own trial in Florida. Before trial, Ms. Bock relocated her small family from the New Orleans area to Texas in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. This, however, did not stop Scheff and PURE from coming full-steam after the mom for alleged defamation and other claims. As a result, without the benefit of hearing the mom?s side of the story, a jury had little choice but to award the $11.3 million dollar verdict requested by the lawyer for Scheff and her company.


According to the Daily Business Review, Scheff also named Ginger Warbis as co-defendant. Warbis, who runs a web site critical of Scheff, obtained a well-known lawyer who successfully defeated Scheff?s claims of defamation: ?Warbis? lawyer, Philip Elberg, of Medvin & Elberg of Newark, New Jersey, sharply criticized Scheff and other people who refer parents to programs for troubled teens. ?People in this industry have consistently used their money and their access to lawyers to silence critics of the industry and this may be one of those examples,? Elberg said. ?Sue Scheff is simply another person in the industry of people who make money from the plight of frightened parents.??


The Daily Business Review, noting that Scheff won effectively only by default, paraphrased Scheff?s attorney, stating, ?Bock was not present for the jury trial, which was held to determine damages only. . . .?


Ironically, a separate lawsuit had been filed in Utah against Scheff and PURE by the World Wide Association of Specialty Programs (WWASP), containing similar allegations as those raised by Scheff against the New Orleans mom. Scheff lost all counter-claims against WWASP but was not found liable for claims of damage allegedly caused when Scheff posted Internet statements asserting child abuse by WWASP. Scheff admitted she used false names to do so. While her case pended, Scheff removed representations from her web site which falsely stated Scheff holds a college degree.


The recent Florida verdict also ignored abuse allegations at children?s programs to which Scheff refers families because the jury never heard the opposing evidence. The owner of one such program to which Scheff made referrals, Whitmore Academy, was initially charged with multiple counts of child abuse and hazing in connection with four children at the boarding school. The owner recently pled no contest to four counts of hazing, and was ordered to pay fines and complete community service. The prosecuting attorney told the Deseret News, ?I believe it effectively shuts them down in the state of Utah.? According to a September 2006 news article by the Deseret News, ?The former operator of a therapeutic school [Whitmore Academy] for troubled youths, who has been kicked out of Mexico and accused of starving horses in Canada, has agreed not to run another rehabilitation school in Juab County.?


The allegations of child abuse did not deter Scheff from enrolling children for a profitable sum of money. In a separate case, the United States Court of Appeals found that defendants PURE and Sue Scheff, "[C]ompete with the schools associated with World Wide. PURE schools pay Ms. Scheff a substantial sum whenever a child enrolls in its program based on her recommendation."


According to the non-profit International Survivors Action Committee (ISAC), Scheff and her company are on the ISAC ?watch list? for questionable practices that may place children at risk for abuse or neglect. ####


Sources:


http://www.isaccorp.org/

http://www.helpatanycost.com/

http://www.isaccorp.org/referrals.asp

http://michellesuttonmemorial.homestead.com/

http://www.help-for-teen.com/

http://www.teenadvocatesusa.homestead.com/home.html

http://www.wwaspinfo.com/

http://www.teenhelpindustry.info/

http://www.paulareeves.com/

http://www.ethicaltreatment.org/

http://www.kathymoya.com/index.html

http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp ... &aId=19977

http://www.majon.com/advanced/pressrele ... eeves.html

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,650192749,00.html

Related Links
 
Referral Free Zone
www.isaccorp.org
 
Author of Recent Book
www.helpatanycost.com/
 
Michelle Sutton Death
michellesuttonmemorial.homestead.com/
 
 
Contact Information
Shelby Earnshaw
Founder
International Survivors Action Committee (ISAC)
(540) 522-6231
isaccorp@yahoo.com
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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2006, 10:57:28 PM »
What you don't get Jeffie is that Sue-Sue would have thrown you under the bus any time if it helped her self promotion.  Did ya know Sue-Sue was sending you photo all over to her so-called friends adn laughing at you?  Bet ya didnt know that about your good friend sue-Sue.
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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2006, 11:05:59 PM »
This is great Sue-Sue cause you AND YOUR IDIOT FRIEND IZZY made Fornits.com FAMOUS!!!!   :wstupid:  ::bangin::

From the Guardian

"The Louisiana woman, Carey Bock, posted the accusations against Sue Scheff, of Florida, on Fornits.Com, a bulletin board used by parents of troubled teenagers."

Thanks---- :D
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Re: Sue Made Fornits Famous
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2006, 11:08:18 PM »
Sue-Sue---you wouldnt mind if Carey Bock just READS Fornits.com would you?  Are you gonna sue Carey for READING Fornits.com?  :lol:

Quote from: ""Thanks Sue-Sue Scheff""
This is great Sue-Sue cause you AND YOUR IDIOT FRIEND IZZY made Fornits.com FAMOUS!!!!   :wstupid:  ::bangin::

From the Guardian

"The Louisiana woman, Carey Bock, posted the accusations against Sue Scheff, of Florida, on Fornits.Com, a bulletin board used by parents of troubled teenagers."

Thanks---- :D
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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2006, 11:10:14 PM »
Our lawyer told us to make sure we say that "this is just our OPINIONS" mrs public figure
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« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2006, 11:55:25 PM »


Breaking News ...

The multi-billion dollar teen help industry is NOT REGULATED by the federal government.  

BUYER BEWARE!

This includes the multi-million-dollar sub-cottage REFERRAL industry which is comprised of educational consultants, referral companies and even program parents who refer to children's programs for a profit. There are NO federal regulations governing this lucrative industry either.   Anyone can call themselves an "educational consultant" regardless of whether they have a college degree and meet the standards of the IECA which at least attempts to self-regulate their members (e.g. does not allow members to accept fees from the programs themselves as this is considered a violation of ethics and/or standards of professionalism.  See link below)

DISCLAIMER:  TIMOBOFAT (This is my opinion based on facts and truth)

SOURCES

Help At Any Cost:  How the troubled teen industry cons parents and hurts kids by Maia Szalavitz  (See book promotion on Fornits upper right corner.  BUY THE BOOK!)
Website:  http://www.helpatanycost.com

Press Release:

Buyer Beware of Businesses Exploiting Children and Families

http://isaccorp.org/pressreleases/referralfreezone.html

The Michelle Sutton Memorial Foundation
BUYER BEWARE:  A Parent's Nightmare

http://www.michellesuttonmemorial.com

Independent Educational Consultants Association

http://www.educationalconsulting.org/consult_non.html
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« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2006, 10:52:21 AM »
If Carey Bock appeals this verdict--can any and all possible anonymoust postings by Sue Scheff be presented as evidence that Sue Scheff may have been guility of the same thing she accused Carey Bock of doing?

Note I said "possible" and "may have"

Just asking a question, OK?

Now don't be SUING me Sue/Sue.
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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2006, 11:20:05 AM »
What was so funny about the Jeff Berryman picture that Sue/Sue was passing around?
No one seems to care that the only picture floating around of Sue/Sue is the "shot" of her in the red top.  When this same shot was posted on PURE way back when- her daughter was also in it; but the daughter has since been cropped out.
Perhaps Sue/Sue is is just fond of this pose?
Or maybe she doesn't want to post a new one showing her proper, natural, aging process? Who knows? You'd have to ask her.
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