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Outback Therapeutic Expedition /Second Nature

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Little Eagle:
dude! I went to outback! it was not fun in the sense that you were separated from everything you knew, and weren't even allowed to know what time it was!
However, it was a very enlightening experience, just don't make your kid stay for as long as i did, 13 weeks. the average is about 8-10 weeks

rayjax:
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glaceau:
My wife had my son kidnapped and sent to Outback Therapeutic Expedition even though I have joint custody.  I went to Utah to try to get him back but Outback made it clear that they would require me to file a lawsuit in Utah to get him back. I couldn't afford to do that. They had cooperated with my wife in hiding him from me in the wilderness and I had no way of finding him.

Outback Therapeutic Expedition knew they were helping to use him as a weapon. There had been no psych eval before he was sent out there, and even when they had one done by their pet Psychologist, the only diagnosis they came up with to keep him was Depression Not Otherwise Specified.

In my opinion, the people at Outback Therapeutic Expedition should be put in Jail.

Joyce Harris:
How long will your son be enrolled at this wilderness program?
Are you aware that most kids get sent on to long-term residential treatment programs after they complete the wilderness program?
Are you working with your attorney to intervene on such a placement?

glaceau:
When my son was first sent to wilderness, the story they gave me was that it was a 1 to 2 month process and he would be back home again. Then they diagnosed him with Depression NOS, and said Residential Therapeutic Facility was the right place for him.  They gave me a bunch of bullshit about me having frequent contact with him, but it was all a lie. They wouldn't even let me see him when he went from the wilderness program to the Residential Therapeutic facility.  

It has been 6 months since I have been able to talk to my son even by telephone. Now they want to place him in another facility because the facility he is in now has discovered how many lawsuits my ex-wife has filed in the past and apparently figured out that my wife will sue them no matter what they do and ask for all her money back.  They appear to be trying to turf him off to another unsuspecting facility as soon as they can. In the mean time, I believe they are afraid to let him talk to me because they are hoping to keep her from suing them. They appear to have figured out that she is much more formidable as a litigant than I am.

I have been fighting this in court and am now bankrupt. My ex-wife has all the marital assets tied up.

I have talked to several psychologists and one adolescent psychiatrist, and they all say that what is happening is child abuse. These people should be in jail.

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