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Anonymous:
How do you know it wasn't the appropriate place for him?  Do you know what would have happened to him if he had NOT attended?  If this wasn't suicide, what role does HLA even play in his death?  What program did he go to after HLA?  You are so quick to blast everyone and everything, let's see what info you actually have.  FACTS, please. Not your opinions or speculations.
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Troll Control:

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--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---It seems as if everyone is jumping the gun here. There has been no information on the cause of this young man's death. Yet, many are quick to blame HLA. A life cut short is indeed a very tragic thing, but to place blame with out knowing the circumstances. Wouldn't time be better spent offering condolences and prayers to his family and friends, instead of pointing fingers.
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Read the previous post.  Nobody's blaming HLA for his death, just for keeping him for 20 months then sending him to another facility because they wanted the money.  They didn't help this kid.  They took the 100k and kept him full-term, never once telling the parents they weren't able to help him, just taking the cash.  And in the end, the kid ends up institutionalized from the age of 16 and still not being helped.  That is sick.
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I worked at HLA while Patrick was there.  I deeply cared about him as did many other staff and students.  I am incredibly sad to hear this news.  I had many conversations with Patrick in good times and in bad.  Many of the things said about HLA on this site are true, but I can honestly tell you that many people at HLA cared for Patrick and put forth every effort to help him.  I am one of them.
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Let me educate you.  "Doing everything you can" for this kid necessarily includes getting him the help he needs, not just the help HLA offers.

How can anyone sit here and tell people that they tried to help this kid, when it is patently obvious that over 20 months nobody had the guts or ethics to let this kid go where he could actually get help from professionals who know how to help.

Let me reiterate: PART OF "HELPING" THIS KID WOULD HAVE BEEN REALIZING THAT YOU WEREN'T HELPING HIM[/b].  What's so difficult to understand?  

Greed and avarice rule the day at HLA, NOT proper care.  It's cut-and-dried, people.  And now, because of it, this kid is DEAD and he's never coming back.  Get it yet?

RobertBruce:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---How do you know it wasn't the appropriate place for him?  Do you know what would have happened to him if he had NOT attended?  If this wasn't suicide, what role does HLA even play in his death?  What program did he go to after HLA?  You are so quick to blast everyone and everything, let's see what info you actually have.  FACTS, please. Not your opinions or speculations.
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Because you stupid child abusing puppet he was there for 20 months AND DIDNT GET ANY BETTER!!! Even someone as dumb as you must get that. Or are you to wrapped up in the notion that you might get some more money out of this kid even in death that you just cant see the facts before you?

If youre still confused reflect back upon the mention that this kid may have tried to committ suicide while there. Maybe that should have raised a flag for you? Oh silly me I forgot the bottom line is always the only thing that matters there.

Anonymous:
Where did it say he tried to commit suicide AT HLA?  You can blame HLA for a lot of things, but you are not in a position to blame them for this young man's death, which you don't even know was suicide.
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RobertBruce:
I realize most of you idiots are completly unqualified but I would have thought you would have at the very least the reading comprehension of a third grader.

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--- Quote ---kid may have tried to committ suicide while there.
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"may" being the operative word there. Along with "tried". Now I know these are big words, maybe you can get your supervisor to explain them to you. Oh damn he's to busy. He's got to give individual therapy to every kid there, and he's only got 15 mins per kid. No time for you, I guess you'll just have to figure it out on your own. On the other hand maybe I can help.

Do you remember in "The Empire Strikes Back" when Luke is talking to Yoda about trying to lift his ship out of the swamp by using the force and Yoda responds with, "Do or do not. There is no try."  Same kind of thing here.

So in essence what I was saying in my earlier comment was the kid may have attempted (oh damn another big word) to kill himself while at hla. Obviously he did not succeed.

While I'm not blaming hla for this kids death, obviously he didnt get the help he needed there. If he had he might still be alive today.

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