Author Topic: Dahlonega Nugget - Article on HLA Lawsuit (Read 13488 times)

Troll Control · « **Reply #15 on:** September 21, 2006, 05:09:09 PM »

Quote from: ""Milk Gargling Death Penal""

Holy shit, they actually posted that? Did Lon grow a heart and a brain?

*peers around the curtain, looking for wizards*

Non Prophet
Junior Member
Member # 5273

posted September 20, 2006 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by WillieNelson:
Fornits has little value. The posters have an agenda and it does not involve providing an honest evaluation of programs. There ARE no good programs, according to Fornits.
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I'm not sure how this statement reconciles with this one:

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Originally posted by WillieNelson:

I don't understand why you would say to be "wary" of advice received from parents on this site. ANY advice should be taken in the spirit in which it is given- one family's experience with a program. However, most if not ALL the legitimate parents posting on this site give thoughtful and truthful advice about programs and their own experiences. If you are receiving alarming messages, they are probably not from any of the regular members of this site.

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This is quite a dichotomy, Willie. On one hand you exhort readers not to be wary of anything posted on this site, but to completely discount information from another site, even though it is offered in the same spirit.

Upon thoroughly examining this site and fornits, it is without question that the fornits database is far more penetrating (backed up with links and documents) than this one.

I suggest you skip over the coarse language and look for the information you need. You are much more llikely to find the skeletons in the closets of teen-help facilities by searching fornits. Isn't that what's important?

This site, while useful in some ways, presents a very structured, slanted appraisal of the teen-help industry, as it is an extension of a teen program marketing business. In other words (regardless of the validity of certain pieces of information), this site has a "dog in the fight" in the teen-help controversy and it therefore necessarily reflects that bias.

Fornits, on the other hand, is not a for-profit enterprise and, as such has no "agenda" as an earlier poster suggested. Rather, it is a meeting place for those interested in examining the true depth and breadth of information about the teen-help industry, including the heavily suppressed negative aspects of it.

For instance, fornits has posted links to a massive lawsuit against the "flagship" TBS whose owner funded the creation of NATSAP. NATSAP has gotten plenty of positive coverage over the past few days on this site, while this massive lawsuit against its progenitor has been completely and utterly ignored - not even a mention, even though ISACCORP.org (a watchdog group) has reported it and it is on the front page of the Dahlonega Nugget (the local paper where the facility is situated) today.

Please refer:

http://www.thedahloneganugget.com/artic ... /01hla.txt

This salient point dovetails with the above poster's assertion that a program that is currently being investigated for child sexual assault was championed by one or more parents on this site, despite the fact that the lawsuit and investigation are public knowledge (and completely unacknowledged on this site).

Food for thought.

Anonymous · « **Reply #16 on:** September 21, 2006, 09:01:34 PM »

Wow, that is ownaj.

Now all they have to do is discuss it!

*crickets*

Anonymous · « **Reply #17 on:** September 22, 2006, 02:23:12 PM »

A 70-page complaint! Those lawyers sure didn't fool around.

Anonymous · « **Reply #18 on:** September 22, 2006, 03:26:24 PM »

and, twenty days to answer..

Anonymous · « **Reply #19 on:** September 24, 2006, 12:55:03 PM »

Quote from: ""Guest""

Martin Quirk contended that the accusations against Hidden Lake Academy are merely the result of disgruntled parents who, after withdrawing their children prior to completion of the program, are now reluctant to forfeit their deposit. These fees, he added, are a normal part of such schools.

?A couple of parents that withdrew their children didn't like that provision, which they had signed,? said Quirk. ?And apparently blew it way out of proportion.?

You keep on believing that Marty......

At this weekends' Parent WorkShop, one parent told me that HLA
re-iterated "that it was a couple of disgruntled parents"....and basically no big thing...however, Cates neglected to say that HLA was being investigated by "ALL" STATE and corresponding Federal
Agencies.... Now, to understand this undertaking, there is no way
a firm like Berger and Montague would take this lawsuit if it did not have merit.... it is no different with the State and Federal agencies..
Investigations of this magnitude take time, man power and an exhorbitant amount of money....let's get real HLA....

Anonymous · « **Reply #20 on:** September 24, 2006, 01:47:58 PM »

LIES. LIES AND MORE LIES.

A WAY OF LIFE AT HLA............

THEY PREACH IT

AND THEY TEACH IT!

Anonymous · « **Reply #21 on:** September 26, 2006, 05:01:57 PM »

Quote from: ""Guest""

Quote from: ""Guest""
Martin Quirk contended that the accusations against Hidden Lake Academy are merely the result of disgruntled parents who, after withdrawing their children prior to completion of the program, are now reluctant to forfeit their deposit. These fees, he added, are a normal part of such schools.

?A couple of parents that withdrew their children didn't like that provision, which they had signed,? said Quirk. ?And apparently blew it way out of proportion.?

You keep on believing that Marty......

At this weekends' Parent WorkShop, one parent told me that HLA
re-iterated "that it was a couple of disgruntled parents"....and basically no big thing...however, Cates neglected to say that HLA was being investigated by "ALL" STATE and corresponding Federal
Agencies.... Now, to understand this undertaking, there is no way
a firm like Berger and Montague would take this lawsuit if it did not have merit.... it is no different with the State and Federal agencies..
Investigations of this magnitude take time, man power and an exhorbitant amount of money....let's get real HLA....

IF THIS WERE JUST A COUPLE OF DISGRUNTLED PARENTS AND THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG AT HLA, WHY IS HLA RUNNING AROUND CHANGING EVERYTHING?

?

Anonymous · « **Reply #22 on:** September 26, 2006, 05:10:28 PM »

Good question:

Dear Parents and Consultants:

Recently, we noticed an increase in the number of negative incidents in our medications dispensary. As we all know, degrees and certifications do not automatically make an organized, responsible employee. Personnel are consistently evaluated and staff changes made if we see no way of correcting the situation. All health-related organizations have negative incidents occur, but we always endeavor to address the issues and make changes in order to move forward.

Joe Stapp is now acting as the Dispensary supervisor. Joe is an Assistant Headmaster, clinical supervisor, and a former peer group counselor at Hidden Lake Academy.

In order to minimize errors and continue to provide quality care for the students, Joe is looking to implement the following changes:
Blister packaging medication in order to help with better medication management.
Acquiring delivery service from the pharmacy with whom HLA contracts.
Increasing communication among the dispensary staff in order to better coordinate dispensary duties.
Begin a more formal process of tracking dispensary activities to catch problems before they occur.
Begin cross-training assistant counselors on Dispensary duties to ensure adequate coverage in the Dispensary.

If you have any additional issues needing to be addressed involving the Dispensary, please feel free to contact Joe Stapp. We look forward to another great school year at HLA.

Sincerely,
Nicole Fuglsang, MA, NCC, LPC
Director of Admissions/ Public Relations
Hidden Lake Academy
nicolef@hiddenlakeacademy.com
phone (706) 864-4730
fax (706) 864-9109

Anonymous · « **Reply #23 on:** September 26, 2006, 05:35:49 PM »

Let me guess... Joe can clearly identify the difference between welbutrin, prozac, and lexapro? How many other schools utilize non-nursing/medical staff to dispense medications (on a large volume basis)? Are the assistant counselors well versed on which meds get cheeked the most and distributed on campus. This is sort of like hearing the train whistle blow and having the vantage point of seeing that the bridge ahead is completely out. I sense a derailment coming up soon.

Anonymous · « **Reply #24 on:** September 26, 2006, 06:33:42 PM »

IF THIS WERE JUST A COUPLE OF DISGRUNTLED PARENTS AND THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG AT HLA, WHY IS HLA RUNNING AROUND CHANGING EVERYTHING?

?

Let's see....apparently..

Dr. Buccellato sited on campus....saying "Hi" on Monday.
Charles Cates not saying anything...well, some things don't change..
It has been reported that shredding is taking place....50
gallon drum for burning has been replaced...or has it been sidelined
temporarily....ask housekeeping...
Clay Erickson's M.D. has been removed from HLA website....M.D. was removed years back...
Clay Erickson has just been demoted from the 'Dispensary'...
Ease of Pulling your child now...no meetings, just good-bye..
Testimonials on web-site, is that new?
Faculty credentials now up-dated on web-site....

Perhaps while they are at it, they could release the childrens academic records now, since it is a federal regulation...

Anyone care to add to the lists??

Anonymous · « **Reply #25 on:** September 26, 2006, 07:02:47 PM »

Now, he needs to lower the monthly tuition by one half!!

:cry2:

Justifiable, and in conjunction with qualifications, certification and facilities.

:wink:

Anonymous · « **Reply #26 on:** September 26, 2006, 09:36:53 PM »

Am I correct in my assumption that it doesn't matter what changes they make now? The lawsuit focuses only on things that happened during the dates stated on the suit.

Anonymous · « **Reply #27 on:** September 26, 2006, 09:42:42 PM »

Quote from: ""Guest""

Am I correct in my assumption that it doesn't matter what changes they make now? The lawsuit focuses only on things that happened during the dates stated on the suit.

That's they way it would appear, but the changes are an obvious attempt to right the wrongs of the years past. Parents should still hold HLA responsible for the resources HLA claims to currently have available versus what HLA actually currently has available.

Anonymous · « **Reply #28 on:** September 26, 2006, 11:46:56 PM »

This is getting to be like "As HLA Turns"....

Anonymous · « **Reply #29 on:** September 26, 2006, 11:49:28 PM »

Pick up your "Nugget"..... to enter "Soapville", Episode II...

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