i'm an incoming senior....to parents interested

[Anonymous]

sorry, forgot to put my name up there in the post from just now.#
-billy procida

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

   Suck the kool-aide like mothers milk from the breast of Hyde.

[Anonymous]

I just confirmed with a friend of mine. It was Don McMillan who lost his temper after a kid spit at him. He grabbed him by the neck and choked him. I guess that Psychology degree did him a lot of good.....not! It must have been one of the other Gauld's who admitted to plagiarism and then took a leave of absence or "resigned." As you said, the staff who run this school are quite the hypocrites. The Administrators try to put a different spin on their disfunction by saying things like, "so and so is going to take a leave of absence to try and work on himself and do some discovery." This would all be pretty funny if these were not the same people you were intrusting your kids to. These are the ones who are supposed to be a good example to your kids?

Mmmmm....  And what happens to the kid who, by ill-thought happenstance, is found guilty of such a sin, e.g., plagiarism?  Are they given such same benefit of "doubt"?  Ay-yaeh-yaeh... NO!  They are expelled under a veritable typhoon cloud of shame and disgust!  What a circus!

CIRCUS, n.
A place where horses, ponies and elephants are permitted to see men, women and children acting the fool.

http://www.alcyone.com/max/lit/devils/c.html

Ursus, you sound like a disgruntled ex-student and you are very childish in your postings. Grow up.
Also, if you can't point out positives and negatives, then you are very biased and not capable of giving a fair objective view. A frustration of mine is the ignorance. Not ignorance in the disrespectful sense, but the descriptive. Many of you think you know what you are talking about. My mom even thinks she knows what she's talking about sometimes. But you never really know until you've been there. For former students, I want you to have seen both sides: been the off track and the on track. I wasn't off-track for terribly long, and I was off in a different way that didn't involve going out and getting messed up at night. Once you're on, you have a better chance of seeing what really goes on in the innerworkings. Granted, not to the extent that you hear the entire schemings going on in the headmistress's office, but enough to know. But I can't stress enough, for some reason, that the philosophy at the core of it all is all-good. There's no negative to trying to be a better person. Some ideas that branch off of that good idea don't have to be your bible, nor are the practices of the concept perfect or even close. But I'd like you to point me to a school that does have it almost all correct because I guarenttee (to prospective families), your child's current public school DOES NOT have it. No school's perfectly right and I think they all want us to be better people, but Hyde (along with others, although the practices do vary) pursues that idea. It's not for everybody, but you never know until you try it. Not attend, but truly try it without taking things personally. And I think that's a big reason why so many parents (including my own) get disgruntled: because some just can't let something slide. Talking to parents, I hear a lot of complaints about feedback given to them. There's a reason why we have seminar guidelines. One of them says not to take them personally. I used to take them personally too. But I am now comfortable with myself enough to know that I can dismiss something, think about it later, and if it still doesn't apply, then I can forget about it, no strings attached. I say "Chill angry-parent-who-heard-something-they-didn't-like, it's okay." But students, faculty, parents, many people have a hard time with that because the ego gets in the way. Ego is a tough son-of-a-bitch to break, but it needs to be done in order to ever be a learner going into any conversation. I wish some of ya'll could see it as objectively (or as close as any real human being can get to objective, b/c there's got to be a bias inside of all of us to some extent) or as close to objectivity (word check) the way I feel I do. Because it is a lot simpler than the bickering, the seminars, the 5:30s, the 2-4, inspection, classes, sports, lights out, Mr. Felt, confrontations, AICR, action-reflection, ditto, bing, EEMO, Mr. Bragg, IPSES, the Words and Principles, Summer X, crews, attitude, being dirty, Joe Gauld, breaking ethics, push-ups, outpost, inpost, feedback, seminar guidelines, truth over harmony, the 10 Priorities, The Biggest Job, retreats, regionals, sober breaks, serenity, FLC, allowance, accountabilities, Summer Challenge, Family Weekends, Mrs. Gauld, Mr. Walsh, busts, senior year,  4 year seniors, a rose at graduation, seeing my family and friends stand up as a I make a speech...it's about "Hey. I'm on a journey to become a better person. I see you are too. Let's help each other. You may not be right, but I'm open to hear suggestions." To simplify it more: "I want to be a better _____". Practice and protocol aside, it boils down to that. If you can let go of imperfections in the help you get, good for you. Apparantly, we're some of the few.
Don't turn it into a belief. It's about a very good idea. But don't build a belief structure around it (although many have).
BTW, Europe's pretty cool. I'm in an internet cafe in London. Weather's nice. Going to go see a bunch of cool stuff tomorrow apparantly. Didn't realize how weak our dollar is though. Tsk tsk. Let me know what ya'll thought, but of course I didn't need to ask for that.

Yes Billy, it is about becoming a better person, but the problem is you are at a school that has staff who are not capable of teaching good morals, values, etc.  You have to lead by example and most of them do not. There also are very few staff or possibly none, who are capable of dealing with the physical and psychological problems that many of the kids have including ADD, drug abuse, past emotional trauma, etc.

I understand all you are saying and you are obviously doing well at Hyde.  I am sure part of it is that you are maturing on your own like many do after they leave Hyde.  I am not saying that the core values talked about at Hyde are not good, but Hyde does not teach these by example.  I think you are sorely being misled to believe that the changes in you are 100% Hyde.  My guess is that you would have reached this point on your own, but maybe a little later.  Certainly not worth the $45,000 a year your family pays!

I believe that in years down the line you will realize what Hyde is all about.  It is about the Gauld family making mega bucks off of desperate parents.

[Ursus]

I just confirmed with a friend of mine. It was Don McMillan who lost his temper after a kid spit at him. He grabbed him by the neck and choked him. I guess that Psychology degree did him a lot of good.....not! It must have been one of the other Gauld's who admitted to plagiarism and then took a leave of absence or "resigned." As you said, the staff who run this school are quite the hypocrites. The Administrators try to put a different spin on their disfunction by saying things like, "so and so is going to take a leave of absence to try and work on himself and do some discovery." This would all be pretty funny if these were not the same people you were intrusting your kids to. These are the ones who are supposed to be a good example to your kids?

Mmmmm....  And what happens to the kid who, by ill-thought happenstance, is found guilty of such a sin, e.g., plagiarism?  Are they given such same benefit of "doubt"?  Ay-yaeh-yaeh... NO!  They are expelled under a veritable typhoon cloud of shame and disgust!  What a circus!

CIRCUS, n.
A place where horses, ponies and elephants are permitted to see men, women and children acting the fool.
http://www.alcyone.com/max/lit/devils/c.html

Ursus, you sound like a disgruntled ex-student and you are very childish in your postings. Grow up.
Also, if you can't point out positives and negatives, then you are very biased and not capable of giving a fair objective view. A frustration of mine is the ignorance. Not ignorance in the disrespectful sense, but the descriptive. Many of you think you know what you are talking about. My mom even thinks she knows what she's talking about sometimes. But you never really know until you've been there. For former students, I want you to have seen both sides: been the off track and the on track. I wasn't off-track for terribly long, and I was off in a different way that didn't involve going out and getting messed up at night. Once you're on, you have a better chance of seeing what really goes on in the innerworkings. Granted, not to the extent that you hear the entire schemings going on in the headmistress's office, but enough to know. But I can't stress enough, for some reason, that the philosophy at the core of it all is all-good. There's no negative to trying to be a better person. Some ideas that branch off of that good idea don't have to be your bible, nor are the practices of the concept perfect or even close. But I'd like you to point me to a school that does have it almost all correct because I guarenttee (to prospective families), your child's current public school DOES NOT have it. No school's perfectly right and I think they all want us to be better people, but Hyde (along with others, although the practices do vary) pursues that idea. It's not for everybody, but you never know until you try it. Not attend, but truly try it without taking things personally. And I think that's a big reason why so many parents (including my own) get disgruntled: because some just can't let something slide. Talking to parents, I hear a lot of complaints about feedback given to them. There's a reason why we have seminar guidelines. One of them says not to take them personally. I used to take them personally too. But I am now comfortable with myself enough to know that I can dismiss something, think about it later, and if it still doesn't apply, then I can forget about it, no strings attached. I say "Chill angry-parent-who-heard-something-they-didn't-like, it's okay." But students, faculty, parents, many people have a hard time with that because the ego gets in the way. Ego is a tough son-of-a-bitch to break, but it needs to be done in order to ever be a learner going into any conversation. I wish some of ya'll could see it as objectively (or as close as any real human being can get to objective, b/c there's got to be a bias inside of all of us to some extent) or as close to objectivity (word check) the way I feel I do. Because it is a lot simpler than the bickering, the seminars, the 5:30s, the 2-4, inspection, classes, sports, lights out, Mr. Felt, confrontations, AICR, action-reflection, ditto, bing, EEMO, Mr. Bragg, IPSES, the Words and Principles, Summer X, crews, attitude, being dirty, Joe Gauld, breaking ethics, push-ups, outpost, inpost, feedback, seminar guidelines, truth over harmony, the 10 Priorities, The Biggest Job, retreats, regionals, sober breaks, serenity, FLC, allowance, accountabilities, Summer Challenge, Family Weekends, Mrs. Gauld, Mr. Walsh, busts, senior year,  4 year seniors, a rose at graduation, seeing my family and friends stand up as a I make a speech...it's about "Hey. I'm on a journey to become a better person. I see you are too. Let's help each other. You may not be right, but I'm open to hear suggestions." To simplify it more: "I want to be a better _____". Practice and protocol aside, it boils down to that. If you can let go of imperfections in the help you get, good for you. Apparantly, we're some of the few.
Don't turn it into a belief. It's about a very good idea. But don't build a belief structure around it (although many have).
BTW, Europe's pretty cool. I'm in an internet cafe in London. Weather's nice. Going to go see a bunch of cool stuff tomorrow apparantly. Didn't realize how weak our dollar is though. Tsk tsk. Let me know what ya'll thought, but of course I didn't need to ask for that.

:rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
God Bless you, Billy, for being such an earnest fellow!  I cannot help but admire your prodigious output.  One thing that has absolutely struck me is your incredibly solid sense of self; I don't think I had half that sense of security in who I was when I was your age, no, make that a tenth.  And I have the general impression, although I may well be wrong, that your condition is the exception, rather than the rule, as far as most teenagers are concerned these days, in fact, any days in my living memory. In fact, the only time I can recall running into such all-knowing chutzpah was when I was at Hyde, faced with the glorious moral superiority of the Senior Leadership Group, or whatever they were called in those days.  How inferior I felt back then:  sad miserable little fart, destined for a miserable shoddy life of mediocrity, bereft of any measure of excellence, deemed a failure by Hyde, hence a failure for Life.  Although I made no effort to keep in touch (my tail between my legs from shame), word still crept back to me over the years, of the many, many, deflated balloons.  And sometimes said deflations took a terrible toll on the balloon holders.  Take good care, my friend, that you keep your feet on the ground, and do not attach too much importance to all the Hydespeak you hear...

That said, let me lurch loquaciously into your post, although I am not sure that it will matter, as you have seen fit to dismiss my previous queries as being "disgruntled" and "childish".

Many of you think you know what you are talking about. My mom even thinks she knows what she's talking about sometimes. But you never really know until you've been there.

Your mom knows what she is talking about, and your Dad knows what he is talking about too.  Trust me, they've been around the block a few more times than you have.  And as far as this board goes, we HAVE been there, and that's what we're talking about!  And we be former students, parents, and even occasional former faculty members!  We generally talk about what we've experienced personally, ourselves, when we were there, as well as our reflections on how our experience has affected us during the course of our lives.  At any rate, yes, we think we know what we are talking about as we are talking about our experience.  Much like you think you know what you are talking about because you are talking about your experience.

You seem to actually buy Hyde's politic jargon that they are unique in, let alone good at, what they do.  Rest assured that they are not.  There is a small slew of programs, including some boarding schools, that started cropping up in the late 1950's/early 1960's onwards that claimed to focus more on "character development" or "behaviour modification", essentially all of which employed known brainwashing and thought coercion techniques.  Hyde has tried many times to re-invent itself along the way, perhaps in order to sanitize the connection, but has always failed to fully shake the beast, as the beast is written in stone at the core of their philosophy of how and why they do what they do.  Take a look around at some of the other threads here, and read a bit.

But I'd like you to point me to a school that does have it almost all correct because I guarenttee (to prospective families), your child's current public school DOES NOT have it. No school's perfectly right and I think they all want us to be better people, but Hyde (along with others, although the practices do vary) pursues that idea. It's not for everybody, but you never know until you try it.

You are right in saying that no school is perfect, but most parents tend to shy from blowing $40k (or whatever it goes for these days) on "just trying it", particularly when the institution brainwashes their kid and might even kick the kid out, with the remainder of the year's tuition staying in Hyde's pocket.  Note that they do not offer any form of "money back guarantee", should the school prove to be grossly inappropriate.  Don't knock public school so much, individual schools vary widely.  And certainly don't entail taking out a second mortage.

I'd like to second the poster who noted:

I think you are sorely being misled to believe that the changes in you are 100% Hyde. My guess is that you would have reached this point on your own, but maybe a little later.

I would go so far as to say extremely few of your changes have to do with Hyde.  You seem like a good sort, and I believe that you would have naturally gravitated towards instilling good common sense principles over time.

Because it is a lot simpler than the bickering, the seminars, the 5:30s, the 2-4, inspection, classes, sports, lights out, Mr. Felt, confrontations, AICR, action-reflection, ditto, bing, EEMO, Mr. Bragg, IPSES, the Words and Principles, Summer X, crews, attitude, being dirty, Joe Gauld, breaking ethics, push-ups, outpost, inpost, feedback, seminar guidelines, truth over harmony, the 10 Priorities, The Biggest Job, retreats, regionals, sober breaks, serenity, FLC, allowance, accountabilities, Summer Challenge, Family Weekends, Mrs. Gauld, Mr. Walsh, busts, senior year, 4 year seniors, a rose at graduation, seeing my family and friends stand up as a I make a speech...

I couldn't have said it better myself.  In fact, I certainly couldn't have said it all, as there have apparently been quite a few new cultspeak terms that have been added to the roster over the years.  For comment on this I choose to defer to Dr. Robert J. Lifton's Criteria For Thought Reform, it happens to be #6:

LOADING THE LANGUAGE

    the language of the totalist environment is characterized by the
    thought-terminating cliche (thought-stoppers)
    repetitiously centered on all-encompassing jargon
    "the language of non-thought"
    words are given new meanings -- the outside world does not use the
    words or phrases in the same way -- it becomes a "group" word or
    phrase
http://fornits.com/anonanon/docs/lifton-criteria.txt

Oh, they still have "bing"?  Gad, what awful memories that brings back!  For the uninitiated, picture this:  you are in seminar, and it is your turn to confess some Godawful sin, and you start out... tearfully... timidly... only to be beset by a chorus of "BING!!!"s because you are not speaking loud enough.

And, in closing:

To simplify it more: "I want to be a better _____". Practice and protocol aside, it boils down to that.

Yah, well, I want to be a better porcupine, but here I am stuck in this smelly mean-ole-polar-bear costume.  Go figure.  :lol:
Looking forward to your next post, Urs

[Anonymous]

Billy,

Disgruntled former students have been around ever since the dawn of Hyde. Nothing has been more constant in Hyde's history than disgruntled former students. It is a phenomenon, not a series of isolated events.

It is a big mistake to treat our criticisms as invalid. You take all our criticisms of the school --- of the brainwashing, the coercion, the misuse of punishments and rewards, the demoralization of the skeptics --- and dismiss them by calling them invalid. They are not invalid. Though it hurts, they may be and often are valid. If the criticism is valid, once you understand that it is, you can at least somehow address the problem. If you simply dismiss it as invalid, you cannot address the problem.

We all want to be better people, Billy. It is how Hyde tries to make us better people that makes us so disgruntled. In my view, the only reason that Hyde, its modus operandi, is not illegal is low public awareness. But paradoxically, that will change with the spread of Hyde Schools and with it the flow of information between mental health professionals, legislators, educators, jurists, and Hyde's disgruntled parents and students.  

Mike

[Anonymous]

Billy,

  After you have been out of Hyde for awhile things will start happening to you emotionally and mentally.   Many of these symptoms will be subtle at first.  IT is the post traumatic stress from adapting to a coercive environment.   Hyde is practicing medicine without a license, Mental health is a medical issue.   Hyde is screwing with your mind, winding it up like a spring.  When you get out the spring may pop.  Beware.  I have seen it happen to some of the Leaders I went to school with.   Billy , good luck.  Remember a cult is like an onion.  As you go through your senior year you will exposed to some of the inner layers.  Please be skeptical.  Remember this is your life.  Hyde will take no responsibility if the thoughts they plant in your mind blow up.  Like I say beware, some of the folks that did not and could not handle it are DEAD.

[Anonymous]

Billy,

Disgruntled former students have been around ever since the dawn of Hyde. Nothing has been more constant in Hyde's history than disgruntled former students. It is a phenomenon, not a series of isolated events.

It is a big mistake to treat our criticisms as invalid. You take all our criticisms of the school --- of the brainwashing, the coercion, the misuse of punishments and rewards, the demoralization of the skeptics --- and dismiss them by calling them invalid. They are not invalid. Though it hurts, they may be and often are valid. If the criticism is valid, once you understand that it is, you can at least somehow address the problem. If you simply dismiss it as invalid, you cannot address the problem.

We all want to be better people, Billy. It is how Hyde tries to make us better people that makes us so disgruntled. In my view, the only reason that Hyde, its modus operandi, is not illegal is low public awareness. But paradoxically, that will change with the spread of Hyde Schools and with it the flow of information between mental health professionals, legislators, educators, jurists, and Hyde's disgruntled parents and students.  

Mike

You are so right, Mike.  There is a widespread pattern of criticisms leveled at Hyde.  There are lots of bad stories.  Are there good stories, too?  Sure.  But people shouldn't dismiss the overwhelming, consistent pattern of bad stories.  I couldn't agree more: Hyde gets away with this because for so long it has operated out of the public's view and scrutiny.  The Internet, and this website, have changed that.  Hyde has been "outed."  I'm fine with public debate about Hyde.  Let the proponents have their say.  But, don't discount the critics.  Much of what they have to say about Hyde's MO and destructive features is very valid.

Thanks, Mike.

[Anonymous]

Billy,

Disgruntled former students have been around ever since the dawn of Hyde. Nothing has been more constant in Hyde's history than disgruntled former students. It is a phenomenon, not a series of isolated events.

It is a big mistake to treat our criticisms as invalid. You take all our criticisms of the school --- of the brainwashing, the coercion, the misuse of punishments and rewards, the demoralization of the skeptics --- and dismiss them by calling them invalid. They are not invalid. Though it hurts, they may be and often are valid. If the criticism is valid, once you understand that it is, you can at least somehow address the problem. If you simply dismiss it as invalid, you cannot address the problem.

We all want to be better people, Billy. It is how Hyde tries to make us better people that makes us so disgruntled. In my view, the only reason that Hyde, its modus operandi, is not illegal is low public awareness. But paradoxically, that will change with the spread of Hyde Schools and with it the flow of information between mental health professionals, legislators, educators, jurists, and Hyde's disgruntled parents and students.  

Mike

You are so right, Mike.  There is a widespread pattern of criticisms leveled at Hyde.  There are lots of bad stories.  Are there good stories, too?  Sure.  But people shouldn't dismiss the overwhelming, consistent pattern of bad stories.  I couldn't agree more: Hyde gets away with this because for so long it has operated out of the public's view and scrutiny.  The Internet, and this website, have changed that.  Hyde has been "outed."  I'm fine with public debate about Hyde.  Let the proponents have their say.  But, don't discount the critics.  Much of what they have to say about Hyde's MO and destructive features is very valid.

Thanks, Mike.

Beware of the dangers at Hyde School. I am a female former student who didn't do any of the things you are talking about in your posts Bill.  I was a decent girl who had low self esteem and didn't get good grades.  My Mother was talked into sending me there by my father who just wanted to get rid of me because his new wife didn't like having me around.

Hyde did little to build my self esteem and in fact they destroyed what little I had left.  Hyde taught me to trust no one especially those in an authoritative position.  Hyde exposed me to drugs and alcohol, (not that I never would have been) as well as bulimia and suicide. While at Hyde I also had to listen in family seminar's to insane stories by students and parents about crazy things that happened in their families including incese, homosexuality, etc.  This was all so foreign to me, but thank you to Hyde I did get quite an education.

I came out of Hyde with all the above deep knowledge, but little of the education I needed to go forward in my life.  One thing Hyde did not teach me was study skills, but thanks Hyde for all else you exposed me to and taught me!  I don't think I could have gotten this anywhere else nor can you pay for an education like this.

P.S. I did leave Hyde and decide that I wanted more in life, so got myself that education and hate to even think about those years long ago at Hyde.  God Bless the rest of you.

[Anonymous]

Urs, it's unfortunate all I can call you is that. That you must hide behind a mask, a fasade(probably not spelled right). I was really hoping you were a younger former student so the childish-ness could be easily accounted for. It's unfortunate you cannot see something from a somewhat-objective point of view because as I read your post, it's apparant the tone behind it.
All schools have lots of dirty laundry: even the Exiters, Tafts, and Blairs (i have a friend currently at one, my mom went to taft, and i have a cousin who was kicked out of there this year, if you think i'm throwing names around). Public, private, boarding, alternative schools all have dirty laundry. No school has it right though. Many tried, and yet, no one has it right. Including Hyde. Who wants to go through something really really hard for four years. I would have ended up this way eventually: but a lot later and the road would have been a lot worse had I gone to, let's say, my local public school NVOT. | had pretty good morals, a few loose screws back right before I came to Hyde. I was a good kid. Very rule-oriented for fear of punishment, but a good kid. The fear of punishment carried through the majority of being at Hyde. But I had no self-confidence, low self-esteem, no social skills to speak of. Being at Hyde, for me, gave me a new opportunity to try again. I didn't make a bunch of friends at Hyde right away. But Hyde did give me the opportunity, through the requirements it has, to build self-esteem (sports, academics with a combination of attitude and effort, the standard of having to have a clean room, having to get on stage and dacne). I did all the work. Hyde gave me a safe environment to do it. When I left Hyde this past summer and went to California to a program for 10 days (non Hyde related) with "real" kids...i did just fine. They gravitated towards me. Girls paid attention to me, guys thought I was a funny guy who had a good heart. Weird to me. And I knew it had paid off. There are other programs and schools that can help that. Hyde is one of them. If you put the right work attitude and mind set into it. Otherwise, it'll only take you so far. Hyde has many bad stories. Yea, so do other schools, but other than Aspen, Family Foundation, etc...the other ones on this site, I don't hear you complaining about your local school, your alma maters(is that right?). Brainwashing? Please, sir. I don't believe everything Hyde faculty tells me. I, unlike many parents and students I've seen through here in 4 years, listen, think about it, think about it later, than dismiss it if necessary, leaving grudges behind me. YES, EVERY ONCE AND AWHILE, I'LL STILL HAVE A SORE SPOT THAT I HAVE TO DEA LWITH LATER, but I don't go complain about it on a website with a one-way view, possibly an ignorant one, patronizing a teenager behind an anonymous nickname. Asking a higher up at hyde about what they think about this site(b/c they don't moniter it, but they do know about it and take a peek around every once and awhile) and he said (i'm paraphrasing)"I'm willing to have a conersation face-to-face or even over the phone. But I will not have a discussion under a mask of anonymity." So do the respectable thing. I've given tours to families who ask some of the kids that hate hyde the most what they thought. They didn't lie. But they weren't obnoxious or childish about it. They were like "I don't like it, but i know it's good for me" or "i'd rather be somewhere else" or "i'm looking at other schools for next year" or something like that. But many of you "guests" on this board are the type of kids like Matt Mumford who would yell as I pass with them "Don't send your kid here!" or "Turn back now!" or "Get out while you can!"
Again, to start, you need an objective view. I've always been an objective kid. I can put feelings aside and spurt what's right, not what I wnat to be right(most of the time, I have my situations here and there, I actually had one quite recently if you want to hear about it, shoot me an email). But seriously, grow up. Because putting smiley faces and patronizing people is what I did in grade school. Because by doing that, you're acting like Matt. And he was a boy trapped in an 18-year old's body.

[Anonymous]

gary eskow...i'd love to get your email, or maybe a phone number(but i understand if you don't want to put that up on the internet). if not, at least drop me an email at wprocida@hyde.edu.
-billy procida

[Ursus]

gary eskow...i'd love to get your email, or maybe a phone number(but i understand if you don't want to put that up on the internet). if not, at least drop me an email at scribeny@aol.com
www.garyeskow.com

[Anonymous]

gary eskow...i'd love to get your email, or maybe a phone number(but i understand if you don't want to put that up on the internet). if not, at least drop me an email at scribeny@aol.com
www.garyeskow.com

Great that you are doing so well Billy.  Truly I am happy for you, but lets get real Billy.  Answer a few questions for us.

1)  Is it ok for a Headmaster not to report a gang rape to authorities?

2)  Is it ok for staff to humiliate, shame, intimidate and physically abuse a child in the name of "character education?"

3)  After being diagnosed with a concussion and going to the hospital, is it ok not to check on this same kid all night and instead to put them on 2-4 the following morning?

4)  Is it ok to let underage teens runaway into the night without doing ONE thing to stop them and make sure they are safe?

5)  Is it ok to listen to kids talk about being so depressed that they want to commit suicide, yet not refer them to a professional psychologist?

6) Is it ok as a staff member and an example to 200 kids to get drunk at night in the dorm?

7)  Is it ok for the owner of the school to have an affair with a student?

Is it ok to have a known pediphile on campus knowing the female students are afraid of him?

Oh Billy, I could go on and on but it is you that I believe is too immature and inexperienced to understand that this is not acceptable behavior for a school or staff who are responsible for kids safety.  You won't understand this until you are a parent.  I truly hope you print all of this out so in years to come you can look back on it and shake your head in disbelief as to how foolish you were. I think your heart is in the right place, but you don't have enough experience in life to understand what is being pointed out here.

Your parents should be proud of you.  I can tell you are a good kid who is really trying to "raise the bar" for yourself and for that I admire you, but believe me you have a lot to learn about a school that has abusive practices and is a dangerous place for a child with true problems.

I would love to hear back from you in about 10 years.  Oh, and by the way, don't kid yourself about Hyde and how little they read this site.  I know for a fact that the big man over in Bath is a regular as well as many other faculty.  Some think it is funny and others are happy to see some of what is written, some are not.  There are those who are hoping this site will go away by not posting replys and defenses, but this is doubtful.

[Anonymous]

gary eskow...i'd love to get your email, or maybe a phone number(but i understand if you don't want to put that up on the internet). if not, at least drop me an email at scribeny@aol.com
www.garyeskow.com

Great that you are doing so well Billy.  Truly I am happy for you, but lets get real Billy.  Answer a few questions for us.

1)  Is it ok for a Headmaster not to report a gang rape to authorities?

2)  Is it ok for staff to humiliate, shame, intimidate and physically abuse a child in the name of "character education?"

3)  After being diagnosed with a concussion and going to the hospital, is it ok not to check on this same kid all night and instead to put them on 2-4 the following morning?

4)  Is it ok to let underage teens runaway into the night without doing ONE thing to stop them and make sure they are safe?

5)  Is it ok to listen to kids talk about being so depressed that they want to commit suicide, yet not refer them to a professional psychologist?

6) Is it ok as a staff member and an example to 200 kids to get drunk at night in the dorm?

7)  Is it ok for the owner of the school to have an affair with a student?

Is it ok to have a known pediphile on campus knowing the female students are afraid of him?

Oh Billy, I could go on and on but it is you that I believe is too immature and inexperienced to understand that this is not acceptable behavior for a school or staff who are responsible for kids safety.  You won't understand this until you are a parent.  I truly hope you print all of this out so in years to come you can look back on it and shake your head in disbelief as to how foolish you were. I think your heart is in the right place, but you don't have enough experience in life to understand what is being pointed out here.

Your parents should be proud of you.  I can tell you are a good kid who is really trying to "raise the bar" for yourself and for that I admire you, but believe me you have a lot to learn about a school that has abusive practices and is a dangerous place for a child with true problems.

I would love to hear back from you in about 10 years.  Oh, and by the way, don't kid yourself about Hyde and how little they read this site.  I know for a fact that the big man over in Bath is a regular as well as many other faculty.  Some think it is funny and others are happy to see some of what is written, some are not.  There are those who are hoping this site will go away by not posting replys and defenses, but this is doubtful.

Billy, you are obviously not reading through many of these posts or you would see that Gary has invited many to contact him.  I strongly suggest you read some of the posts from former students, faculty and parents to get a better idea about Hyde and some of the things you are not aware of that have been going on for years.

[Ursus]

Hey Billy, I hope you are still enjoying your expedition to Europe and taking in all sorts of new sights and perspectives!  I've been there four or five times myself, and have always enjoyed the change in scenery.

Urs, it's unfortunate all I can call you is that. That you must hide behind a mask, a fasade(probably not spelled right). I was really hoping you were a younger former student so the childish-ness could be easily accounted for. It's unfortunate you cannot see something from a somewhat-objective point of view because as I read your post, it's apparant the tone behind it.

I don't go complain about it on a website with a one-way view, possibly an ignorant one, patronizing a teenager behind an anonymous nickname. Asking a higher up at hyde about what they think about this site(b/c they don't moniter it, but they do know about it and take a peek around every once and awhile) and he said (i'm paraphrasing)"I'm willing to have a conersation face-to-face or even over the phone. But I will not have a discussion under a mask of anonymity."

If you actually read even a tiny tiny wee little bitty bit of the posts in this here Forum, Billy, you would never have been suffering the impression that we are each but a "teenager behind an anonymous nickname."  As far as your impression of me is concerned, you really do not have to go back very far at all to learn that I am of your parents' generation and may, in fact, be even older than they are...  This doesn't really concern me, of course; at my age it is a bit of a titillation to be mistaken for someone so much younger!   :lol:  :rofl:  More importantly, it does very much point to your lack of "doing your homework", so to speak.  That is, you come to this forum and lecture us loquaciously as to your greater wisdom about what Hyde is all about, I might even go so far as to add what Life is all about, yet you haven't even bothered to read about our side of the story.  Put your money where your mouth is, Billy!   ::poke::

As to the response you received from the "higher up" you consulted about this site, it sounds to me like a slick piece of chicanery:  he was just trying to sidetrack you from giving any importance to this site yourself!  The mindset he allegedly espoused is in the same league as the mindset of someone who claims "I only believe news story such-and-such if I hear it on one of the mainstream newscasts/read it in a mainstream press" or "I only buy brand name clothes/household goods; that is to say, only that which is status quo is worthy of my attention.  Pahleez, what an impoverished world that would be!

CONSULT, v.i.
To seek another's disapproval of a course already decided on.  http://www.alcyone.com/max/lit/devils/c.html

Most of the people who post on the Hyde School forum do so as Anons.  Some of the Anons go a step further and attribute nicknames to their posts, though still as Anons.  Very few of us post as Avatars.  And extremely few of us take on/make no bones about our real life identities.  We all have our reasons for this, and it really should not in any way reflect on the veracity of what we speak, or the integrity of our intentions.  If we were just a hoodlum bunch of malcontented ne'er-do-wells, I hardly think you would have received the volume of concerned and thoughtful replies to your posts that you have.  We could have easily blown you out of here with a juggernaut of ribald insults and character assassination.

The problem with using your (Hyde) email address, Billy, is that Hyde can, and probably does at this point, read your emails.  If you had a separate email address, the likelihood that you would get some response from people here would increase.  Unfortunately, therein is still the issue of the conveying of one's IP address, which some people have issues about.  If you would feel up to taking on Avatar on this forum, you would have the option of private mailing other Avatars here (no IP address exchange), although, unfortunately, Anons cannot participate in that.

Don't like my smiley faces?  Sorry to hear that.  Sometimes they get the message across better than I can say in words.  Sometimes I worry that my words may seem too harsh, but I feel they are too important to sanitize into a more palatable form.  I try to convey my intentions of good will to you, Billy, in those hokey childish smiley faces; a sentiment that, I'm sure you'll agree, is hardly "childish" at all.

-Urs    ::dove::