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« Reply #255 on: October 11, 2006, 10:47:35 PM »
CCM Girl---
Did you notice in the ISAC press release that Scheff ran like a baby when her lawyer was up against a real lawyer, Philip Elberg?  Poof! case gone.  Oh yea scheff is real tough.

its only a matter of time and scheff will be pulverized in court.
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« Reply #256 on: October 11, 2006, 10:48:39 PM »
Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989""
 I don't know the case, and don't know what Carey was saying that got Sue so peeved?  




I can see both sides of it.



Wha?  Uh, ok.



The judge didn't see both sides.  The jury didn't see both sides.  What happened is that Sue saw Carey as a danger to her livelihood (referring kids to TBS and RTCs whether or not there are abuse charges currently pending) and set out to stop her.  Carey is a single parent trying to recover from Katrina and help her kids recover from being locked up in an abusive facility.  Sue is a So. FL. rich bitch who makes her living off of gullible parents that mistakenly put their trust into her and she'll stop at NOTHING in her attempts to squash anyone who dares reveal what she's really up to.
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« Reply #257 on: October 11, 2006, 11:28:08 PM »
They are asking for reader comments on the story below.  Hey, Sue doesn't look so hotsie totsie anymore.  The University of Florida law professor has got your number, Sue.

http://www.p2pnet.net/story/10088

$11.3M online defamation award

p2pnet.net News:- The $11.3 million awarded to a Florida woman for alleged online defamation suit is "astonishing" says University of Florida law professor Lyrissa Lidsky.
Her remark came in reference to a suit lodged against a Louisiana woman who posted messages on the Internet accusing her of being a "crook," a "con artist" and a "fraud," says USA Today, quoting the Daily Business Review.
Sue Scheff of Weston, Florida, "pursued the case even though she knew the defendant, Carey Bock of Mandeville, La., has no hope of paying such an award," says the story.
"Bock, who had to leave her home for several months because of Hurricane Katrina, couldn't afford an attorney and didn't show up for the trial."
Scheff wanted to make a point to those who unfairly criticize others on the Internet, says the story. "I'm sure (Bock) doesn't have $1 million, let alone $11 million, but the message is strong and clear," it has her saying. "People are using the Internet to destroy people they don't like, and you can't do that."
Bock had, "publicly criticized the business practices of Scheff and PURE in referring children to allegedly abusive programs," says the International Survivors Action Committee (ISAC), going on:
"Scheff met the mother?s complaints with a lawsuit. The mom lacked the financial resources to defend herself or to attend her own trial in Florida. As a result, without the benefit of hearing the mom?s side of the story, a jury had little choice but to award the $11.3 million dollar verdict requested by the lawyer for Scheff and her company.
"Before trial, Ms. Bock relocated her small family from the New Orleans area to Texas in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. This, however, did not stop Scheff and PURE from coming full-steam after the mom for alleged defamation and other claims."
Scheff, who runs the Parents Universal Resource Experts referral service, says she referred Bock to a consultant who helped Bock retrieve her sons from a boarding school in Costa Rica, says USA Today, and, "Afterward, Bock became critical of Scheff and posted negative messages about her on the Internet site Fornits.com, where parents with children in boarding schools for troubled teens confer with one another."
"In 2003, Scheff sued Bock for defamation. Bock hired a lawyer, but he left the case when she no longer could afford to pay him."
A separate lawsuit filed in Utah against Scheff and PURE by the World Wide Association of Specialty Programs (WWASP) made similar allegations, resulting in Scheff losing counter-claims, says ISAC, adding:
"Scheff, however, was not found liable for claims of damage to WWASP that Scheff allegedly caused when Scheff posted Internet statements asserting child abuse by WWASP. Scheff admitted she used false names to do so. Scheff was reportedly told by a Utah federal judge to remove misrepresentations from her web site showing Scheff holds a college degree.
"The Florida verdict also ignored abuse allegations at children?s programs to which Scheff refers families because the jury never heard the opposing evidence. The owner of one such program to which Scheff made referrals, Whitmore Academy, recently pled guilty to specified charges in a Utah criminal court."
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USA Today - Jury awards $11.3M over defamatory Internet posts, October 10, 2006
ISAC - Sue Scheff And Florida Company Win Empty Victory Over New Orleans Mom, October 7, 2006
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« Reply #258 on: October 12, 2006, 03:14:20 AM »
Sue Scheff and PURE Win Empty Victory over New Orleans Mom

International Survivors Action Committee (ISAC)
10/9/2006 9:21:45 PM

BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA (October 10, 2006) - On September 19, 2006, Parents Universal Resource Experts, Inc. (PURE) and its founder, Sue Scheff of Weston, Florida won an $11.3 million dollar victory of hollow sorts over a single mom from New Orleans by alleging defamation over the Internet. Although it is doubtful the verdict will be collected, it may serve to chill free speech of those attempting to expose child abuse or untoward business practices.


The mom, Carey Bock, had publicly criticized the business practices of Scheff and PURE in referring children to allegedly abusive programs. Scheff met the mother?s complaints with a lawsuit reminiscent of one filed against Scheff in 2001.


The mom lacked the financial resources to defend herself or to attend her own trial in Florida. Before trial, Ms. Bock relocated her small family from the New Orleans area to Texas in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. This, however, did not stop Scheff and PURE from coming full-steam after the mom for alleged defamation and other claims. As a result, without the benefit of hearing the mom?s side of the story, a jury had little choice but to award the $11.3 million dollar verdict requested by the lawyer for Scheff and her company.


According to the Daily Business Review, Scheff also named Ginger Warbis as co-defendant. Warbis, who runs a web site critical of Scheff, obtained a well-known lawyer who successfully defeated Scheff?s claims of defamation: ?Warbis? lawyer, Philip Elberg, of Medvin & Elberg of Newark, New Jersey, sharply criticized Scheff and other people who refer parents to programs for troubled teens. ?People in this industry have consistently used their money and their access to lawyers to silence critics of the industry and this may be one of those examples,? Elberg said. ?Sue Scheff is simply another person in the industry of people who make money from the plight of frightened parents.??


The Daily Business Review, noting that Scheff won effectively only by default, paraphrased Scheff?s attorney, stating, ?Bock was not present for the jury trial, which was held to determine damages only. . . .?


Ironically, a separate lawsuit had been filed in Utah against Scheff and PURE by the World Wide Association of Specialty Programs (WWASP), containing similar allegations as those raised by Scheff against the New Orleans mom. Scheff lost all counter-claims against WWASP but was not found liable for claims of damage allegedly caused when Scheff posted Internet statements asserting child abuse by WWASP. Scheff admitted she used false names to do so. While her case pended, Scheff removed representations from her web site which falsely stated Scheff holds a college degree.


The recent Florida verdict also ignored abuse allegations at children?s programs to which Scheff refers families because the jury never heard the opposing evidence. The owner of one such program to which Scheff made referrals, Whitmore Academy, was initially charged with multiple counts of child abuse and hazing in connection with four children at the boarding school. The owner recently pled no contest to four counts of hazing, and was ordered to pay fines and complete community service. The prosecuting attorney told the Deseret News, ?I believe it effectively shuts them down in the state of Utah.? According to a September 2006 news article by the Deseret News, ?The former operator of a therapeutic school [Whitmore Academy] for troubled youths, who has been kicked out of Mexico and accused of starving horses in Canada, has agreed not to run another rehabilitation school in Juab County.?


The allegations of child abuse did not deter Scheff from enrolling children for a profitable sum of money. In a separate case, the United States Court of Appeals found that defendants PURE and Sue Scheff, "[C]ompete with the schools associated with World Wide. PURE schools pay Ms. Scheff a substantial sum whenever a child enrolls in its program based on her recommendation."


According to the non-profit International Survivors Action Committee (ISAC), Scheff and her company are on the ISAC ?watch list? for questionable practices that may place children at risk for abuse or neglect. ####


Sources:


http://www.isaccorp.org/


http://www.helpatanycost.com/

http://www.isaccorp.org/referrals.asp

http://michellesuttonmemorial.homestead.com/

http://www.help-for-teen.com/

http://www.teenadvocatesusa.homestead.com/home.html

http://www.wwaspinfo.com/

http://www.teenhelpindustry.info/

http://www.paulareeves.com/

http://www.ethicaltreatment.org/

http://www.kathymoya.com/index.html

http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp ... &aId=19977

http://www.majon.com/advanced/pressrele ... eeves.html

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,650192749,00.html
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« Reply #259 on: October 12, 2006, 03:35:36 AM »
Better be careful Professor Lyrissa Lidsky!

Sue-Sue will be coming after you with her big-bad-lawyer, Mr. Pollack.  And, everyone knows educators, like professors, don't make MILLIONS a year!

But, what the hell, Sue-Sue can sue you anyway, for MILLIONS. She doesn't care if she collects or not!  She WILL NOT have anyone saying anything negative against her, professor!  Don't you get it?
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« Reply #260 on: October 12, 2006, 03:51:21 AM »
Um... I don't think Professor Lidsky would be too intimidated by anyone.  Check out her credentials.  Pretty damn impressive by all accounts.

http://www.law.ufl.edu/faculty/lidsky/
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« Reply #261 on: October 12, 2006, 10:47:20 AM »
Sarcasm. :wink:
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« Reply #262 on: October 12, 2006, 06:00:57 PM »
Why would Sue-Sue go after a professor of law when she can go after poor Katrina survivors?  It would be better if Sue planned her next attack on a crippled wheelchair mentally retarded person.  Get em Sue!  You can do it.  Get you another $11.3 million dollar verdict.   :rofl:

Hey, sue come and get all of us.
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« Reply #263 on: October 12, 2006, 08:06:42 PM »
http://webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?SES ... &aId=21910

Sue Scheff Wins $11.3 Million in Internet Defamation & Invasion of Privacy Claim in Jury Trial


The jury sends a strong message that freedom of speech has limits


Broward County, FL (October 11, 2006) ? The Internet can be as destructive as it can be useful. This case will make people think twice before setting out on a campaign to destroy others.


Sue Scheff?s attorney David Pollack stated, ?No good deed goes unpunished.? Sue Scheff has been a victim of Internet Defamation. After her daughter was abused and harmed at a teen help program (World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools, WWASPS, Carolina Springs Academy), she set out to help others so they would not fall into the same trap.


WWASPS, a corporate giant, filed a lawsuit against Ms. Scheff in 2002 in an attempt to silence her. Ms. Scheff prevailed in a jury trial. WWASPS filed an appeal and again Ms. Scheff prevailed.


It is not often a person is awarded $11.3 million dollars from a jury of their peers. But in the case of Sue Scheff and her organization Parent?s Universal Resource Experts, Inc. (PURE) v. Carey Bock, the jury felt compelled to send a very strong message ? which they have. Included in their $11.3 million dollar verdict, they awarded Sue Scheff and PURE $5 million in punitive damages. ?The punitive damages speak volumes,? says Scheff, ?it was set to punish the defendant for what she did to my children and me. Just because you don?t like someone or what they do, it does not give you carte blanche to post false statements about a person on the Internet.?


Since 2001 PURE and Sue Scheff have helped thousands of families providing various resources for their children as well as works closely with the Coalition Against Institutionalized Child Abuse (CAICA). Isabelle Zehnder of CAICA, said ?you just can?t go around destroying people on the internet. The $11.3 million verdict should send a strong message.? She went on to say, ?We work closely together, our organizations complement each other. We are both against abuse but not against treatment ? there is a big difference.?


In the meantime, Carey Bock maliciously and intentionally started a campaign on an Internet forums against Sue Scheff and her organization, PURE. According to a witness during trial, Ms. Bock?s animosity towards Ms. Scheff had to do with the fact Sue Scheff would not disclose the name of a minor who was raped and Ms. Bock needed this child?s name for a potential documentary she would profit from. Ms. Bock lost that opportunity and went on a campaign to destroy Sue Scheff and PURE. Bock accepted $12,500.00 from WWASPS? attorney, the very organization she claimed harmed her two boys, and the organization that Sue Scheff successfully defeated in a jury trial in August 2004.


One of the witnesses testified Carey Bock was infuriated that Sue Scheff would not provide her with the information about the child. The jurors saw Ms. Bock?s e-mails and postings, one of which threatened: ?Sue, you are going down, I bet you are scared to death!?


With no other way to defend herself and her children, Ms. Scheff filed a lawsuit against Carey Bock and Ginger Warbis/Fornits Website in December 2003.


Ms. Bock was represented by Jan Atlas of Adorno and Yoss until June 2006 when Mr. Atlas withdrew as counsel, shortly after Ms. Bock was deposed and revealed the only reason she defamed and nearly destroyed Sue Scheff and her organization was simply because she didn?t like her. After Jan Atlas withdrew from the case, the Judge postponed the trial to give Ms. Bock ample time to find new counsel or represent herself. Obviously, Ms. Bock chose to ignore these options and did not even attend her own trial.


What is rather shocking is that after Sue Scheff was awarded $11.3 million because she was defamed and harmed on the Internet, and after the Daily Business Review reported this tremendous victory, a press release was submitted filled with false allegations and inaccuracies in an attempt to deflate this victory and to further harm Ms. Scheff. The inaccuracies are as follows:


? They claim Philip Elberg defeated Sue Scheff and PURE on behalf of his client, Ginger Warbis/Fornits.

The case was dismissed without prejudice - meaning it can be brought back to court on the same claim. It was the decision of Sue Scheff and her Attorney, David Pollack, to focus on one defendant. Philip Elberg won nothing from this case.


? They claim Sue Scheff filed a counter-suit against WWASPS that was dismissed.


They fail to say the case was dismissed on a jurisdictional issue, not on the merits of the case.


? They claim Sue Scheff refers children to abusive programs due to her referrals of children to the Whitmore Academy.


For over 30 years The Whitmore had a successful program with no allegations of abuse.


? They claim Cheryl Sudweeks, owner of the Whitmore Academy, pled guilty to specified charges in a Utah criminal court.


Cheryl did not admit any guilt. There was NO substantiated evidence against the Whitmore. The state admittedly had no case and agreed to a plea in abeyance. An article misstated facts and later corrected their mistakes, claiming Cheryl could never run a youth program in the county for the rest of her life. This is not true and they corrected their error.


? They assert Ms. Scheff makes money from the plight of frightened parents.


Ms. Scheff does not charge the parents for her services. To the contrary, Ms. Scheff is a parent and child advocate.


? They claim a Federal Judge told Ms. Scheff to remove misrepresentations from her website showing she had a college degree.


Ms. Scheff?s bio was written by a third-party. Within 24-hours she found the error and had it immediately corrected and removed; the Judge had nothing to do with it.


? They claim Sue Scheff won by default.


A jury of her peers reviewed evidence, deliberated for hours, and concluded her damages equaled $11.3 million dollars, $5 million of which were punitive.

? They claim the case had no merit.


This case had merit - it was defended for over 2 years - the facts spoke for themselves. The trial with a jury verdict of damages over $11.3 million sends a loud message. You can?t post lies and false statements about people simply because you don?t like them or what they do.


? They claim this was an empty and hollow victory.

A verdict of $11.3 million is far from empty or hollow. Whether is it collectible or not, the message is worth $11.3 million. Not all positive gains are weighed financially.


The press release dated October 10, 2006, was filled with inaccuracies and was obviously written to further discredit Sue Scheff and PURE.


After the trial was over, the jurors waited in the hall to meet with Ms. Scheff. They embraced her and told her that they wanted to send a message that people can?t use the Internet to invade a person?s privacy or to destroy lives. They encouraged Sue Scheff to continue her good work with children and families.


In October 2006, Sue Scheff was honored as "Child Advocate of the Month" by the Coalition Against Institutionalized Child Abuse. Furthermore, on October 9, 2006, the Miami Herald spotlighted Sue Scheff and PURE for their dedication to helping families.
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« Reply #264 on: October 12, 2006, 08:15:56 PM »
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? They claim Philip Elberg defeated Sue Scheff and PURE on behalf of his client, Ginger Warbis/Fornits.

The case was dismissed without prejudice - meaning it can be brought back to court on the same claim. It was the decision of Sue Scheff and her Attorney, David Pollack, to focus on one defendant. Philip Elberg won nothing from this case.



Why hasn't she brought it again then? She'll sue Carey who has no means of defending herself but when they come up against a real lawyer, the run.


? They claim Sue Scheff filed a counter-suit against WWASPS that was dismissed.


They fail to say the case was dismissed on a jurisdictional issue, not on the merits of the case.




Then bring the case again. Surely with this win you're confident you'd prevail here too, right?


? They claim Sue Scheff refers children to abusive programs due to her referrals of children to the Whitmore Academy.


For over 30 years The Whitmore had a successful program with no allegations of abuse.



The Whitmore hasn't even been in business for 30 years and Sue most certainly did refer parents to Whitmore long after the abuse allegations arose and charges had been filed.


? They claim Cheryl Sudweeks, owner of the Whitmore Academy, pled guilty to specified charges in a Utah criminal court.


Cheryl did not admit any guilt. There was NO substantiated evidence against the Whitmore. The state admittedly had no case and agreed to a plea in abeyance. An article misstated facts and later corrected their mistakes, claiming Cheryl could never run a youth program in the county for the rest of her life. This is not true and they corrected their error.




Cheryl pled 'no contest' to hazing....not attempted hazing...hazing. The state said they were worried about some credibility issues with witnesses. You're talking about kids who have already been labeled "troubled". it's not so difficult to see why he was reluctant to put them on the stand.


? They assert Ms. Scheff makes money from the plight of frightened parents.


Ms. Scheff does not charge the parents for her services. To the contrary, Ms. Scheff is a parent and child advocate.



No, it's worse. Sue Scheff gets paid by the schools she refers to. She absolutely does make money off the plight of frightened parents.



? They claim a Federal Judge told Ms. Scheff to remove misrepresentations from her website showing she had a college degree.


Ms. Scheff?s bio was written by a third-party. Within 24-hours she found the error and had it immediately corrected and removed; the Judge had nothing to do with it.


Mmm hmmm. And the psychologist and attorney that were supposedly employed by or associated with PURE??? Turns out there was an attorney who WORKED IN THE SAME BUILDING. That's not exactly part of your staff now, is it?



? They claim Sue Scheff won by default.


A jury of her peers reviewed evidence, deliberated for hours, and concluded her damages equaled $11.3 million dollars, $5 million of which were punitive.



A jury of her peers never laid eyes on Carey or heard anything in her defense. The woman was busy putting her life together after Katrina. She was busy helping her kids cope with life after being subjected to an abusive facility. She had absolutely no money for an attorney or to even travel for the court appearances. How exactly do you surmise that the jury 'reviewed all the evidence'?



? They claim the case had no merit.


This case had merit - it was defended for over 2 years - the facts spoke for themselves. The trial with a jury verdict of damages over $11.3 million sends a loud message. You can?t post lies and false statements about people simply because you don?t like them or what they do.




It was not defended. At all. It's not a matter of not liking Sue, although I don't at all, it's a matter of the truth.



? They claim this was an empty and hollow victory.

A verdict of $11.3 million is far from empty or hollow. Whether is it collectible or not, the message is worth $11.3 million. Not all positive gains are weighed financially.




It is hollow. A sham and a shame. Sue should be ashamed of herself.
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« Reply #265 on: October 12, 2006, 11:13:30 PM »
Sue Scheff referred to Whitmore Academy which has no allegations of abuse?
What about the civil case, and the ongoing depositons?
There are plenty of allegations of abuse; better believe it!
Why? Because the abuse happened, that's why!
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« Reply #266 on: October 12, 2006, 11:16:59 PM »
There's been a plea to hazing.  Four counts I think.  Sue was aware of first the allegations and then the charges and STILL kept referring people there.
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« Reply #267 on: October 12, 2006, 11:43:02 PM »
Sue/Sue sure did keep referring kids after the criminal investigation was underway, and she kept supporting the Suds big time!!!!
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« Reply #268 on: October 12, 2006, 11:44:44 PM »
Better back off that one, IZZY; and let Sue/Sue tell THAT ONE herself.
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« Reply #269 on: October 12, 2006, 11:46:10 PM »
Izzy will be hearing: "Izzy said that, NOT ME."
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