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Offline JDavid

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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2003, 09:12:00 PM »
I wasn't saying all mental health places are asylums.  Only some of them are, and I was expressing hope what he got sent to was not an asylum.

I got 2 breaks while I was in Straight to go to Northside Hospital's mental ward.  I spent a total of 3 weeks there in two trips.  Those were some damn good vacations.

Another mental facility called Rapha is the whole reason I got to get out of Straight.  I was in Rapha for 2 months.  I was in Straight for 9 months, and Rapha is the reason I did not spend years in Straight.

I have no resentment at all for either place.  I actually like many of the memories of both places... Rapha and Northside.  I resent the hell outta Straight though.  

My psychiatrist was the person who condemned Straight to my parents and the court.  He found Rapha after lots of searching, and got me transferred there.

If he got sent to some place like Rapha or Northside, that's probably a really good thing.  I haven't been to either place in 15 years, so I still can't say for sure.

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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2003, 09:31:00 PM »
There is one thing i have noticed about all survivors and that is there is a real aversion to help from mental healthcare professionals.  To me, this is completely understandable. I dont know how most of you could trust most people. It took a lot for even my husband to understand that he needed help.

That was why he got on the boards in the first place.  To find someone to help him.  Just know that there are people out there that do really care and can really help. Thanks again.
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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2003, 09:38:00 PM »
I was just reading your husbands posts.  Most of them were moved to the open forum, but much of the stuff he wrote was powerful and introspective.  Real cry for help stuff.
You may wish to consider copy/pasting those posts and printing them out as it would probably be VERY usefull to the people trying to help him understand what was going on in his mind.
When I worked in psych (I am a nurse), such notes and diary type things could hold the key to helping when the person had had a break.
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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2003, 09:41:00 PM »
I myself went 5 days without sleep.  The lack of sleep did not "make" go crazy.  I became unstable because of hormones, change of life, and the simple fact that the wall I had put up to hold in all the emotion raging inside me was no longer able to withstand the load I had placed upon it. I am grateful that I was not married at the time.  I was able to focus on myself and I recovered fairly quickly.  I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder at the age of 25 and it was time to start over, just like that.  The experience of being in Straight Incorporated, St. Petersburg did not "cause" any of my symptoms.  What it DID do was to enable me to learn a myriad of unhealthy ways to hide and further suffer from this hidden and highly misunderstood ailment.  My parents were more than exemptlary in carrying on the stigma of the disease and making me feel that it was something that I must have done to cause this to happen and that most of it was my fault, therefore, my problem, but they would be there for me once I had finally "snapped out of it."
I highly suggest you try to keep Straight out of it for now.  Your husband needs to know that you love him and that you want him to get well.  Remind him of his good qualities often, encourage him at all times.  Turn a deaf ear to his negative outbursts, and above all keep it simple and sweet and do'nt give into the blame game.  There is no one to blame.............this stuff happens.  After my initial bout, I was back to work in a Stamping Plant making car parts in just 10 days.  I know I was one of the lucky ones.

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« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2003, 09:55:00 PM »
I tell you what i spend every moment of my waking life supporting him and one way i do this is by not mentioning straight.  It does no good.  It just reminds him if the place and quite frankly he doesnt need any more memory of. I let him know with all my heart that i love him and i just want him to get better.  Right now i know that that is all he can take.  I never really wanted him on the boards.  He was just literally at first looking for a psychiatrist who he could trust and he thought that he could find one here. Please dont think that i am not supportive. Please dont think that to him a play the blame game.  As a matter of fact if i hear that word one more time i will probably scream myself

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« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2003, 09:57:00 PM »
You can add shame and guilt to list of words i really dont want to hear again.
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« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2003, 10:04:00 PM »
I am going to do that its a very good suggestion. I cant believe it but it comes out to 24 pages.
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« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2003, 11:09:00 PM »
You do not mention what his age is, but it is entirely possible that your husband suffers from Schizophrenia. When I was reading his posts as he wrote them, it was my impression that this was possible. This is often an illness that roots itself in the minds of young men in their early to mid twenties. I am sure that whatever the issue is, your husband will find help with a good Psych.
While you are busy being supportive of him, remember to be kind to yourself too, get some rest. You have also been through an enormous amount of stress.
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« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2003, 10:11:00 AM »
Chinrse:

I think it a mistake to pretend none of this happened. Acting as if it didn't happen is denial and this causes repression. A repressed event can and will come out in unexpected and damaging ways.

Just a thought.

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« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2003, 10:30:00 AM »
I think that you misunderstand me.  I know this has happened. As a matter of fact, i am so in tune with what happened many times i feel like i am going through the same symptoms that he is going through.  I havent broken from reality or anything, but last night was the first night i have gotten real sleep in two weeks. Right now, i am just trying to help him in any way i can.  I support him in any way i can, but i let him choose the topics we talk about and right now what he is talking about is how much he loves and how afraid he is that i will not stay with him.

And you may be right, my avoidance of the subject my not be the best approach, but I am letting him tell me what is going on.  I am letting him decide what he can tell me and what he cant.  I dont ask direct questions because i feel that that wouldnt be the best thing right now for the two of us.

Ive tried the "whats wrong honey" approach and really just dont think i have the knowledge or the capability of discerning what really is going on.  My mind cant take it anymore.  I cant take it anymore.  This is not to say that i dont think about it all the time.

By nature i am problem solver and this is just not a problem i can solve.  Not on my own.  Nor can he.  He tried to solve it.  He is very intelligent and really did try to figure out what was going on.

Believe me, i would never discourage discussion with him.  If he wants to talk about with me i would be more than happy to talk him about it.  Right now though he is in place where he doesnt remember what he did.  All he wanted to know was that I still love him and will be with him, and he wanted to make sure that he didnt hurt anyone. That is what i gave him i assured him i loved him and that i am with him and that he didnt hurt anyone.  For yesterday that was enough.
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« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2003, 02:35:00 PM »
Hello. Our lives here changed significantly after the discovery was made about straight inc and its horrendous scope. People who are finding this information have reactions that go from one extreme to the other. I hope that after enough time passes and you have talked it over as much as you can, things will get better. It usually does. I have noticed a wave effect too, like some days I remember something and WAM! right back to square one, then the next day, it's all history and I don't think so much about it. I suggest to people to pace themselves, not a good idea to bombard the senses so much in the beginning. Also, take it easy on the blaming thing, that adds to the anxiety and may prevent progress in general. At least this is not a dream! We are real, and we have each other to consult anytime we need it. And the list is growing. More and more people are finding out about this. Hang in there, take it easy, and hope for the best.
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« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2003, 04:41:00 PM »
Chinrse:

Kind of bizarre, but I wrote in the other thread about getting asked what's wrong before I read this one. I THINK YOU ARE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB. By simply being there, you have most likely been more of a help than you can know. Straight let no one be there for the indivdual. Let you form no personal bonds when you were hurting your most. Doing things differently than what straight taught me is the way I am getting better. Doing your best is all anyone can ask.

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« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2003, 05:20:00 PM »
thank you that means a lot
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« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2003, 06:34:00 PM »
Yeah, I have to agree with Clay. I sometimes forget how lucky I am to have my husband. I don't know if I've ever actually had a complete break with reality, but I can tell you with confidence that I haven't always been easy to live with. And it's those times when most people would turn to family for help and support that he's the only one in the whole world who I can really count on. Oddly, I have been able to trust my own family again, several times. And, each time, been painfully reminded why that's just such a bad idea.

Anyway, don't undervalue that simple little thing; you're still there.

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« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2003, 08:05:00 PM »
If you can afford to (maybe insurance could help) it might be better for your husband to be here:

wellspringretreat.org

614-698-6277
P.O. Box 67
Albany Oh.
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I highly reccomend therapy from an exit counselor who really understands these things. Most therapists don't know what Floating is. If you can't get to any exit counselors in your area maybe try finding a specialist in Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome, or order books on cult recovery from American Family Foundation's site. Good luck. PM me if you want help finding some local resources.
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