New Troubled Teen Program Website (for parents)

[Anonymous]

(Okay, Paul's last post was just TOO EASY if you know what he is)

Anyway, we've fish-fried this thing into the ground twice now. Fullmoon, if you're not just trying to stir up shit by linking that thing here, you're a complete moron for expecting anything else.

[Anonymous]

They should include a Parent Assessment quiz with questions like:

1. Are you incapable of parenting your child?
2. If capable of parenting, are you tired of doing it and need a break?
3. Do you believe your child would have turned out better if you had done more spanking, punching, yelling, grounding, withholding food, and belittling when he or she was younger?
4. Does your child's behavior drive you to consume 5 or more ounces of alcohol each day? Note: one beer, one glass of wine or one mixed drink contains one ounce of alcohol.
5. Do you have at least $60,000 available in either home equity, retirement fund, or other liquid assets? If not, please speak to our very understanding loan officer.

Scoring:

If you answered yes to question 5, then your child is most likely an ideal candidate for one of our residential programs.

[Anonymous]

Well, I guess by not using the schools names....the parents are not able to investigate by internet first. They want to make sure that they contact you first, and get to you before the truth does. Will it work? Will they be able to sucker more parents in, yes. In the end.........the truth will come out. I just know it will. It has to, right? This can't go on!!!! I cringe at the thought this will all continue.

Yes, sadly. Parental ignorance, fear and selfishness are the foundation of this entire industry. Sad, but true. Where is the class-action law suit against our parents? We blame the institution, and forget we were given into it willingly.

[try another castle]

WWASPS repackaged. haven't we been expecting this for a while now?

That's the first thing I thought of, too. Especially when I noticed the offshore campuses like Jamaica and Costa Rica. And what a surprise, several campuses in Utah. Damn crazy mormons and their whacked out sense of values.

But I agree, this person is just trying to stir up shit, because they know we are going to be pissed off about this. I can't possibly imagine someone would be stupid enough to ask for opinions about that kind of website on a forum like this.

[Oz girl]

These people put their kid in for this. I thought most parents hoped for a kid who played nerdy computer games:



Bryan was a struggling 6'3"13-year old who didn't think much of himself. He began quitting sports, gave up on his grades and became more and more addicted to computer games and fantasy games like Magic and Dungeons and Dragons. We saw him withdrawing into his own little world. He was very depressed and isolated. We knew things would just get worse if we didn't take steps to assist him. So we began the process of placing our son in the program. The entire program is structured towards family healing. The time our son spent in the program turned out to be as valuable for his dad, Danny, and myself as it was for Bryan. Bryan is home now, and I can't possibly explain the joy he brings to his father and me. We laugh, play and cry together. This is the family I've always wanted. We aren't perfect, nor do we want to be. Being human is more fun! Bryan is loving, patient, respectful, powerful, kindhearted and truly the magical child I remembered him to be many years ago. If had to do it all again, I would! This has been the greatest gift we've ever received.

[Anonymous]

Fiction. The odds of any 13-year-old playing D&D within the last decade is fairly close to nil.

I especially puke at the regressive fantasies at the end ("truly the magical child I remembered him to be many years ago."). Not happening, folks.

[Nihilanthic]

These people put their kid in for this. I thought most parents hoped for a kid who played nerdy computer games:



Bryan was a struggling 6'3"13-year old who didn't think much of himself. He began quitting sports, gave up on his grades and became more and more addicted to computer games and fantasy games like Magic and Dungeons and Dragons. We saw him withdrawing into his own little world. He was very depressed and isolated. We knew things would just get worse if we didn't take steps to assist him. So we began the process of placing our son in the program. The entire program is structured towards family healing. The time our son spent in the program turned out to be as valuable for his dad, Danny, and myself as it was for Bryan. Bryan is home now, and I can't possibly explain the joy he brings to his father and me. We laugh, play and cry together. This is the family I've always wanted. We aren't perfect, nor do we want to be. Being human is more fun! Bryan is loving, patient, respectful, powerful, kindhearted and truly the magical child I remembered him to be many years ago. If had to do it all again, I would! This has been the greatest gift we've ever received.

Wow, a giant turd of newspeak centered around emotional programmie nonsense and trying to reduce the need for a program to a spiritual necessity!

They "just had to" do it, riiiiiight. I guess diagnosis and having to have a disease before being 'treated' and having the right to not be locked up in a program is just gone.

Im getting more and more fed up with the stupidity and ease by which people are emotionally manipulated in this nation.

[Anonymous]

So they sent their kid away for being a geek?

[Nihilanthic]

So they sent their kid away for being a geek?

No.

Thats MOST LIKELY something made up by a marketing guy, or a programmie fluent in newspeak trying to make up something that looks like a parent testimonial (though it reads too... boilerplateish to be a real testimonial) to justify sending a kid away for being a geek.

Why?

Cos there are lots of geeks and if their parents have money they want that money, and most geeks would be very compliant in a program.

[Anonymous]

"Graduated merit system ? Our schools provide incentives for students that encourage them to work hard in order to increase their privileges while gaining self-esteem."

level 1 client: "pass the ketchup"
staffer: "NO!"

level 1 client: "Bathroom please"
staffer: "NO!"

level 1 client: "permission to fart"
staffer: "NO! That will be 50 cents fine and a CAT 4 if I hear/smell it!"

[Nihilanthic]

"Graduated merit system ? Our schools provide incentives for students that encourage them to work hard in order to increase their privileges while gaining self-esteem."

level 1 client: "pass the ketchup"
staffer: "NO!"

level 1 client: "Bathroom please"
staffer: "NO!"

level 1 client: "permission to fart"
staffer: "NO! That will be 50 cents fine and a CAT 4 if I hear/smell it!"

I have yet to hear any explanation with any degree of adequatsy how any program, wilderness/bootcamp, or "emotional growth" anything can "instill" or create self esteem at all.

[Anonymous]

This is so obviously fiction written by WWASPS marketing droids. No parent talks that way and the point was well made that no 13 year old in the last decade or so would be playing D&D.

Despite the fact that many parents are incredibly stupid, it's difficult to imagine a parent being SO stupid that when faced with the "facts" about the hypothetical 13 year old described, they would first choose a WWASPS program rather than real medical and/or mental health treatment. "Honey, junior is isolating himself and he's really depressed. Honey, junior is only 13 and he's already 6'3". Do you think we should take him to see a doctor?" "No, let's call WWASPS and have him locked up in a hellhole in some 3rd world country, or maybe a hellhole in Utah where some nice Mormon follks can beat some sense into the boy." "But honey, our insurance will probably cover real medical treatment, but it won't cover this kind of thing." "Oh never mind the money dear. What this boy needs is good old-fashioned child abuse."

[Nihilanthic]

This is so obviously fiction written by WWASPS marketing droids. No parent talks that way and the point was well made that no 13 year old in the last decade or so would be playing D&D.

Despite the fact that many parents are incredibly stupid, it's difficult to imagine a parent being SO stupid that when faced with the "facts" about the hypothetical 13 year old described, they would first choose a WWASPS program rather than real medical and/or mental health treatment. "Honey, junior is isolating himself and he's really depressed. Honey, junior is only 13 and he's already 6'3". Do you think we should take him to see a doctor?" "No, let's call WWASPS and have him locked up in a hellhole in some 3rd world country, or maybe a hellhole in Utah where some nice Mormon follks can beat some sense into the boy." "But honey, our insurance will probably cover real medical treatment, but it won't cover this kind of thing." "Oh never mind the money dear. What this boy needs is good old-fashioned child abuse."

The funny thing is you cant socialize without making people fear you're *GASP* having sex or doing drugs, so you cant win.

Unless you have sane parents and/or poor ones.

[Anonymous]

Sounds crazy, but a large percentage of the kids sent away to WWASPS never even did anything wrong. You would be horrified and amazed at how many kids are sent away for 'isolating' or 'non -compliance', which means talking back to a parent. I know a lot of parents think these places are filled with hooligans that need to be physically and emotionally beat down to keep them in line, but I believe that is not the case. I found the kids to be well grounded, thoughtful, and overall very mature, especially after their ordeal. You could say the opposite about program parents who will not listen to their child after they get out. They are some of the most self centered, immature folks I've ever met. Ironically, and paradoxically I find that maybe if the parents themselves had been through a similar program in their youth, they might not look upon them so favorably. I doubt this generation of program kids is going to be sending their kids away, it will be the kids who never heard of them, that think they are some great new age child therapy technique, not knowing it's been around a while now, simply being repackaged when convenient.

[Nihilanthic]

Sounds crazy, but a large percentage of the kids sent away to WWASPS never even did anything wrong. You would be horrified and amazed at how many kids are sent away for 'isolating' or 'non -compliance', which means talking back to a parent. I know a lot of parents think these places are filled with hooligans that need to be physically and emotionally beat down to keep them in line, but I believe that is not the case. I found the kids to be well grounded, thoughtful, and overall very mature, especially after their ordeal. You could say the opposite about program parents who will not listen to their child after they get out. They are some of the most self centered, immature folks I've ever met. Ironically, and paradoxically I find that maybe if the parents themselves had been through a similar program in their youth, they might not look upon them so favorably. I doubt this generation of program kids is going to be sending their kids away, it will be the kids who never heard of them, that think they are some great new age child therapy technique, not knowing it's been around a while now, simply being repackaged when convenient.

Pretty concise.

And that brings up something - why is it strugglingteens is so busy trying to convince myself that 'entitlement issues' are something pathological and something to be 'fixed' (by force) at the expense of 6 figures, and you do that by taking everything away and imposing 'consequences' and forcing them to 'earn' things back.

That seems to be more about their own freudian bullshit being used by the programs for the sake of good marketing than any therapeutic necessity, or even anything useful for thier development.

How can these people hate their own kids so much? And how can you condone having a child kidnapped from thier bed and held captive in a  mind-fuck prison over 'entitlement issues' that if exist are the fault of the parents?  :roll: