OK, I love being in control, I admit. I think a lot of us do. Coolin off someone is OK, I spose. I think that the forum business is a tough one. Too many fights and arguments all the time. I was thinking that maybe the reason for the former staff being so defensive now is because they really are victims, and of how they should not have been staffers back then. THis would confirm the notion that a person needs specialized training in order to treat people for medical/psychological problems. What happened was systematic administration of abuse and plain old bullshit. THe staff people were only an extension of the program, so these staffers were somehow suckered into their positions by their absolute love and care of the next guy and had no clue they were hurting, even if they were. Just a simple misunderstanding as a result of their own treatment while in the program on the phases. See? It really is no big deal now. Seems like it could be, in some ways, and maybe not so big in others. Who cares? 3, 4 people? WOW! With only I'd say about less than 300 active acitivists, the movement is only so big and we all know how big Mel and Co and the nonactivatingsurvivors are. LOL... I would love for every survivor to step up. Unfortunately, THat is not going to happen. I found that out a long time ago. As far as meeting in alleys, I doubt that will happen either. There is too much cyberspace to navigate. Well, that Orlando board may burst at the seams later. Lots of SAFE success stories being posted, and they are piling it on. Anyone out here care? I think Tampa may, I read your post at the Pride survey page before they defrocked it. I liked it a lot, they got rid of all of the posts there. COMMIES! bastards!!!! MG8 :rofl: