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« Reply #1770 on: February 16, 2007, 05:59:13 PM »
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Well thats due to your demensia and general abhorence of the truth. I can assure despite your handicaps the answer is yes. Just waiting on you at this point.


When I see the answers posted here, we can move on.....
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« Reply #1771 on: February 16, 2007, 06:00:23 PM »
I agree. Simply tell me who wants the answers, you or the captain? The moment you tell me either persons name I'll answer the questions. You have my word.
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« Reply #1772 on: February 16, 2007, 06:01:55 PM »
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I agree. Simply tell me who wants the answers, you or the captain? The moment you tell me either persons name I'll answer the questions. You have my word.


Ha,Ha,Ha,   I do, Bob...I want the answers.....
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« Reply #1773 on: February 16, 2007, 06:03:25 PM »
So no Captain then huh?

You made it all up.

You should have just said so Cindy. No need to play silly games.

Repost your questions and Ill answer them.
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« Reply #1774 on: February 16, 2007, 06:06:46 PM »
Here I will refresh your memory, Bob:

Bob, Do you remember the cruise you took last summer where the captain sent you adrift in a dingy with a few rolls and enough water for a week?  You never did figure out why he did that did you?
It was your first night on board and you walked over and sat down at the captains table for dinner, uninvited and started interrupting all the guests and asking the captain questions.  Here are the last 10 questions you asked him before he had you removed:

1.   Does the crew sleep onboard?

2.   What time is the midnight buffet?

3.   Which elevator takes me to the front of the ship?

4.   Do you generate your own electricity?

5.   Is this island totally surrounded by water?

6.   Is the water in the toilet salt or fresh?

7.   What language do they speak in Alaska?

8.   What do you do with the ice carvings after they melt?

9.   How high above sea level are we?

10.   How do we know which pictures are ours?


The captain asked you to write your responses to these same questions as you drifted away,

Ha,Ha,Ha,

I would like to see your answers to these questions, Bob
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« Reply #1775 on: February 16, 2007, 06:08:44 PM »
I have to run and work on some data updates, let me know how you make out?

Remember just answer the 10 questions and post them here.
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« Reply #1776 on: February 16, 2007, 06:14:07 PM »
There was no Captain Cindy, there was only you in your homemade sailors outfit inspecting your stuffed animals which youd arranged in parade formation. This whole scenario was in your mind Cindy.

Sad but still hysterical none the less. Any chance you have a shot of it, everyone would enjoy a good laugh at your expense. Not that they dont occur multiple times a day.

In any event to answer your questions (that have nothing to do with the topic but whatever)

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1. Does the crew sleep onboard?

Yes.

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2. What time is the midnight buffet?

Midnight.


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3. Which elevator takes me to the front of the ship?

No.

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4. Do you generate your own electricity?

Yes.

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5. Is this island totally surrounded by water?

Yes.

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6. Is the water in the toilet salt or fresh?

Fresh.

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7. What language do they speak in Alaska?

Several.

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9. How high above sea level are we?

0ft.

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10. How do we know which pictures are ours?


They're in your camera.
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« Reply #1777 on: February 16, 2007, 06:27:51 PM »
Now get to it Cindy.

1. Since you claim to have not followed the cases regarding the deaths in the PTS how can you certain a judge ruled them as not being homicides?

2. If a child died in a similar manner to how most of the kids in the PTS died (restrained to death) would you in the public sector likely be brought up on criminal charges?

3. Do you believe the 300lbs asst. counselor who sat on the kid at Eckert and killed him should have been brought up on criminal charges?

4. Do you believe the program owners have the kids best interest at heart.

5. How can you claim to have the kids safety in mind when you repeatedly discount their deaths or dismiss their experiences?

6. Where is the support from all these "concerned parents" you claim to work with?

7. How does donating to charity or spending time with kids help kids locked up in the PTS?

8. Since you never actually experienced one of these places how can claim it to be a positive experience?

9. How does being a program parent qualify you to decide what information parents should or should not have?
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« Reply #1778 on: February 16, 2007, 06:33:01 PM »
Oh look I found a picture of Cindy in his sailor outfit




Captain Cindy on the high seas! Aye Aye Cindy!

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« Reply #1779 on: February 16, 2007, 07:51:20 PM »
Yeah, Bob, that was terrific... I knew you could get thru those, we purposely didn?t make them too difficult and gave you time to research...you did well...
Thank you

Hold on I have the answers for you from your questions.....
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« Reply #1780 on: February 16, 2007, 07:57:54 PM »
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1. Since you claim to have not followed the cases regarding the deaths in the PTS how can you certain a judge ruled them as not being homicides?

Good question ? What we typically do on this end is review the persons name that is submitted and then review court documents (if any) news articles to determine if the incident went to court and if it did, we determine what the ruling was.  If it was ruled a Homicide we count it as a homicide.  If it was ruled accidental death we categorize it as such.  We don?t follow individual cases thru the process, just look at the outcome or decision if any.  

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2. If a child died in a similar manner to how most of the kids in the PTS died (restrained to death) would you in the public sector likely be brought up on criminal charges?

If proper procedures were followed I would have to say no.  If a person deviated from what he was taught or trained to do then that person would probably be held accountable.

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3. Do you believe the 300lbs asst. counselor who sat on the kid at Eckert and killed him should have been brought up on criminal charges?

No I don?t, at 300lbs he might have sat down and then not been able to get up because of his weight issues, I wasn?t there, there could be reasonable doubt.  I think the person feeding him should be charged, if its McDonalds then they should take responsibility. ?.after all this is America.

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4. Do you believe the program owners have the kids best interest at heart.

Yes, I do absolutely.  I have met many kinds of people in my life at all levels of business and I have never met one who said to themselves:? lets create a business to abuse kids? or ?Tomorrow I am going to do a lousy job and screw everything up?. I think what many of us have in common is that we want to make a difference and do a good job every day we wake up no matter what we do whether it is mowing lawns or running a hospital, most people are proud of what they do.  I am sure you are the same way.  I am also sure there are some sadistic people out there, they are everywhere, but it isn?t a mindset in all people.

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5. How can you claim to have the kids safety in mind when you repeatedly discount their deaths or dismiss their experiences?

I have never done that


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6. Where is the support from all these "concerned parents" you claim to work with?

I posted some emails a few posts back and many I talk to locally.

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7. How does donating to charity or spending time with kids help kids locked up in the PTS?

Well I am a strong believer that if you can get kids the help they need at the local level (school counselors, family counseling, individual counseling, local interventions) they will not need to be placed outside the home.  If more money can be targeted to these types of areas there will be a bigger impact on getting kids back on track earlier.

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8. Since you never actually experienced one of these places how can claim it to be a positive experience?

I have experienced these places and my family has experienced them.  I cant say it was always pleasant for any of us,  but the outcome was positive, so I speak to that.

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9. How does being a program parent qualify you to decide what information parents should or should not have?


Well just that , I have been there and know what other parents are going thru and can empathize with them and assist them with help based on my knowledge and experiences.
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« Reply #1781 on: February 16, 2007, 09:07:31 PM »
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Yeah, Bob, that was terrific... I knew you could get thru those, we purposely didn?t make them too difficult and gave you time to research...you did well...
Thank you

Hold on I have the answers for you from your questions.....


Yes its too bad you (and you alone there is no "we" for you) couldnt have been more straight forward with your pointless questions. Instead you asw fit to try and get me to believe in one of your silly delusions. Like I said Cindy, just because you dress like a sailor it doesnt make you a captain.
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« Reply #1782 on: February 16, 2007, 09:35:10 PM »
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Who do you work for?
If you don't feel like answering that one, what area do you work in? what is your job?


I'm gonna repost this question since it was never answered.
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« Reply #1783 on: February 16, 2007, 09:36:09 PM »
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Good question ? What we typically do on this end is review the persons name that is submitted and then review court documents (if any) news articles to determine if the incident went to court and if it did, we determine what the ruling was. If it was ruled a Homicide we count it as a homicide. If it was ruled accidental death we categorize it as such. We don?t follow individual cases thru the process, just look at the outcome or decision if any.

What do you do about the cases that are swept under the rug? The murders that never come to trial?

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If proper procedures were followed I would have to say no. If a person deviated from what he was taught or trained to do then that person would probably be held accountable.

What are the proper procedures for killing a child?

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No I don?t, at 300lbs he might have sat down and then not been able to get up because of his weight issues, I wasn?t there, there could be reasonable doubt. I think the person feeding him should be charged, if its McDonalds then they should take responsibility. ?.after all this is America.

Youre an idiot Cindy, plain and simple. Youre exactly like one of these fat slobs who weighs 1000lbs and then sues McDonalds for making them that way. No one put a gun to these peoples heads and made them overeat, they made their own choices. Just like the counselor did when he chose to sit down on this kid, already knowing how much he weighed and what damage he could do. He had no issue getting up but he did apparently feel that his 300lbs wasnt enough as he had another staffer help him kill this 11 year old. You claiming he shouldnt have been brought up on charges proves you dont give a shit about these kids.

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Yes, I do absolutely. I have met many kinds of people in my life at all levels of business and I have never met one who said to themselves:? lets create a business to abuse kids? or ?Tomorrow I am going to do a lousy job and screw everything up?. I think what many of us have in common is that we want to make a difference and do a good job every day we wake up no matter what we do whether it is mowing lawns or running a hospital, most people are proud of what they do. I am sure you are the same way. I am also sure there are some sadistic people out there, they are everywhere, but it isn?t a mindset in all people.

Once again youre an idiot. How many program owners do you personally know? How many have you actively reasearched? Does Buchi have the kids best interest at heart? Do the Bentz's?

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I have never done that

Sure you have. Everytime you claim their deaths dont count because "they dont fit the (yours) parameters" you are discounting their deaths. I also already proved to you that youve discounted kids experiences by claiming showing your claim that there was no evidence of kids being abused at ASR. Testimony is evidence shitforbrains, youre claiming theirs doesnt count.

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I posted some emails a few posts back and many I talk to locally.

Sorry local people dont fit the parameters. Never mention them again. As for your emails, I called out to your Jim and Maggie asking them to reveal themselves. So far no dice. It looks like you made them (like the majority of things in your life) up.

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Well I am a strong believer that if you can get kids the help they need at the local level (school counselors, family counseling, individual counseling, local interventions) they will not need to be placed outside the home. If more money can be targeted to these types of areas there will be a bigger impact on getting kids back on track earlier.

So again this is very nice but it has nothing to do with kids currently locked up in the PTS. So then it would appear youve done nothing to help them. How nice.


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I have experienced these places and my family has experienced them. I cant say it was always pleasant for any of us, but the outcome was positive, so I speak to that.

I cannot attest to whether or not it was painful for you and your mail order family to send your daughter away. My guess would be you were happy to do it and truly didnt give a shit. Whatever your feelings were on the matter you experienced nothing of what she or I or any of the others incarcerated against their wills at these places. You know nothing. What youre saying is basically akin to you coming up to a group of Veitnam vets not being one yourself and saying, "Man that war was hell, I was never there but I know what it was like and I know how it felt because I saw "Platoon".  Not even fucking close Cindy. You experienced nothing compared to the rest of us. Please dont pretend otherwise.


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Well just that , I have been there and know what other parents are going thru and can empathize with them and assist them with help based on my knowledge and experiences.


This qualifies you to empathize with them, nothing more. You dealt with one kid and one school. You have no clue what these parents are looking for or what the situation is with their children. Exactly the reason why all the information is going to be given to them, not your watered down edited version. To use another analogy say you became ill ( who am I kidding you already are) and needed to have a procedure done. Afterwards a friend has a similar situation and you tell him about your expereince and how pleased you were with your hospitals treatment, your doctors services and what he can expect in dealing with this illness. For you to do something along those lines would be entirely appropriate. Instead what youre doing is pretending youre a doctor and an expert in the field. You arent an expert Cindy, youre just an arrogant asshole who is delusional enough to think he knows whats best when you havent got a fucking clue as to what youre talking about.
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« Reply #1784 on: February 16, 2007, 09:38:03 PM »
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Who do you work for?
If you don't feel like answering that one, what area do you work in? what is your job?

I'm gonna repost this question since it was never answered.


Psy he wont answer it unless you tell him all about the hot air ballon ride he thinks you went on. Just play along he cant escape his delusions.
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