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« Reply #1245 on: January 29, 2007, 03:07:16 PM »
How come The Who always thinks Robert Bruce writes every single negative thing about The Who? Robert gets entirely too much credit.
Lots of folks here think these thoughts,,.WHO.
You never answered MY question: Why didn't your daughter speak to you for a couple of years, huh?
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« Reply #1246 on: January 29, 2007, 03:20:36 PM »
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How come The Who always thinks Robert Bruce writes every single negative thing about The Who?


The same reason Bush thinks God talks directly to him, they are delusional.
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« Reply #1247 on: January 29, 2007, 03:26:00 PM »
you know who previously you mentioned that kids at normal BS in the US do not get to go home or see their parents on a regular basis. While i do remember far more opportunities to go home at my home school here. This  is what i remember from my 9 months on exchange

-The school year alone was roughly only 9 months long. This left 3 for kids to be at home
-kids went home for 5 days over thanksgiving
-Kids went home for about 2 weeks over xmas
-there were at least 2 weekends where most of my class mates left on saturday and came back on sunday night to go an look at colleges. I suppose such things dont really matter at ASR as academics are not a priority
-I beleive there was a spring break as well but i cant recall how long it was
 So even at a school which prided itself on being strict and structured, out of 9 months there were at least 20 days where kids were off campus and with loved ones with no bullshit conditions. Have things changed at normal BS recently?
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« Reply #1248 on: January 29, 2007, 03:26:47 PM »
Cindy were you not paying attention the last time I explained this to you?

When I insult you (mention facts about you) I'll always sign my name to it. That's a promise.

In the meantime you may want to accept that I'm not the only one on here who recognizes what an arrogant ignoramous jackass you are. Afterall it's not all that different from your day to day life, or are you going to blame me for the fact that your secretary puts piss in your coffee, your waiters spit on your food, and your daughter didn't talk to you for two years. Maybe it's not me Cindy, maybe it's you.
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« Reply #1249 on: January 29, 2007, 03:41:01 PM »
The one called "Who" is the most vocal of all my minions.  ASR actually stands for Almighty Satan's Retreat.  Nothing pleases me more than the screams of the young, and the troubled teen industry gives me a surfeit of anguished howling.  Preach the gospel of the Fallen One, Who.  Continue encouraging parents to consign their youth to the Pit.  I have a special place in Hell for you.
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« Reply #1250 on: January 29, 2007, 03:45:09 PM »
OZ Girl wrote:
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The school year alone was roughly only 9 months long. This left 3 for kids to be at home

ASR schools their children year round.  There are schools that go year round and are not considered abusive.

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kids went home for 5 days over thanksgiving

Kids did not go home for thanksgiving.  I know of some schools that only gave the kids 4 days, would this be considered abusive?

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Kids went home for about 2 weeks over xmas

Some kids were not ready to go home, others did not celebrate Christmas or Thanksgiving, some kids did go home for Christmas,  Some kids were just starting the program.  It just wasn?t manageable.  Most schools have a specific start date and end date.  ASR has kids starting all year long, so scheduled holidays are difficult at best.
Parents and family do come to the school to visit and kids get to go home a few times.

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there were at least 2 weekends where most of my class mates left on Saturday and came back on Sunday night to go an look at colleges. I suppose such things don?t really matter at ASR as academics are not a priority

All the kids that I knew would take off with their folks to visit colleges if they were perusing at the time.  They never restricted this.


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I believe there was a spring break as well but i cant recall how long it was
So even at a school which prided itself on being strict and structured, out of 9 months there were at least 20 days where kids were off campus and with loved ones with no bullshit conditions. Have things changed at normal BS recently?


ASR does not have a spring break? There are many colleges that do not have a spring break and teach year round.  It is not abusive to not have this.
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« Reply #1251 on: January 29, 2007, 03:49:12 PM »
it might not be "abusive" but it does make it a prison without walls. its funny because in the book you recommended to me on ASR at least 3 of the main kids were old enough to be considering college yet there was no mention of leaving to visit colleges. When did this change?
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« Reply #1252 on: January 29, 2007, 03:54:11 PM »
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it might not be "abusive" but it does make it a prison without walls. its funny because in the book you recommended to me on ASR at least 3 of the main kids were old enough to be considering college yet there was no mention of leaving to visit colleges. When did this change?


Not sure if there was a change.  I remember talking to a few kids/parents in my daughters peer group and their trip to see colleges.  My daughter was younger then so it wasnt an issue.  I cant imagine any school not allowing that.
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« Reply #1253 on: January 29, 2007, 03:59:21 PM »
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it might not be "abusive" but it does make it a prison without walls.


I guess if you are use to having a lot of time off it would seem that way.  Some kids consider home a prison if they are grounded for a week!!!  So I guess it is all relative.
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« Reply #1254 on: January 29, 2007, 04:01:43 PM »
HLA didn't.
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« Reply #1255 on: January 29, 2007, 04:49:20 PM »
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HLA didn't.


If that is HLA's policy than I disagree with it and feel it is not right.
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« Reply #1256 on: February 02, 2007, 04:02:55 PM »
V.Shapiro response:

My compliments go to the Academy at Swift River for having such successful program graduates as determined by the measures used in this study. Hopefully the center will be able to address some of the problem areas as indicated by the BASC scales, and will use my research as a starting point for many other outcome evaluations. These should include studies after longer follow up intervals, and a study to clarify whether family relations are in fact as good as the families report, or as problematic as the BASC implies. The implications of this research, however, extend well beyond the scope of ASR?s treatment program. I recommend that other residential treatment centers for adolescents also secure positive aftercare arrangements for their students and gradually allow students to test the values learned during treatment in the real world prior to a final discharge. My findings contradict the idea that making fundamental changes during late adolescence is nearly impossible (Loeber, 1991) and also dispel the myth that long-term treatment is detrimental to normal development. The most important finding of this study is that residential treatment for troubled adolescents has the potential to be extremely effective.
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« Reply #1257 on: February 02, 2007, 04:04:19 PM »
You wouldnt happen to have the actual data availible for that would you?
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Study Results -1999 - 2000
« Reply #1258 on: February 02, 2007, 04:04:43 PM »
No spin,  I am just looking at raw data at this point:

Here take a look again:
So I am simple comparing a child?s safety at a TBS (24 hours per day) vs not being at a TBS (24 hours per day)
We have this data:

July 1, 1999 thru June 2000  

Outside a TBS:
There where 2,140 Homicides and 1,928 suicides
Inside a TBS
There where 0 Homicides and 2 suicides.

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t= ... &start=450

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« Reply #1259 on: February 02, 2007, 04:06:14 PM »
What he means to say is that there were 16 homicides in TBS during that time period. Simple type-o
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