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Quote from: "Guest"Did she actually graduate college? Or is she still going? Did she drop out?She has graduated now,but she did dropped out for awhile to get a job working with veterens to help them get benefits or something like that. A boyfriend got her into it I think. She tired of it and went back to school and finished…took her 5 years.
Did she actually graduate college? Or is she still going? Did she drop out?
Ha,Ha,Ha you dont have the post because it never existed. You think you can string along a manifesto with links assuming no one would read it and think you were telling the truth.Show us the post that supports your thoughts that my daughter didnt talk to me for 2 years. lol
You should calm down a little, DJ, my daughter did fine. All those past posts you just read prove that and it bugs the crap out of you. You have actually added validity to my facts, thank you. Thanks for screening through them all, DJ.
Quote from: "TheWho"Quote from: "Guest"Did she actually graduate college? Or is she still going? Did she drop out?She has graduated now,but she did dropped out for awhile to get a job working with veterens to help them get benefits or something like that. A boyfriend got her into it I think. She tired of it and went back to school and finished…took her 5 years.Whoops.LinkSounds like she dropped out and you lost contact for a while. You're a bit fuzzy on the details of where she was and what she was doing.
Quote from: "Whooter"Ha,Ha,Ha you dont have the post because it never existed. You think you can string along a manifesto with links assuming no one would read it and think you were telling the truth.Show us the post that supports your thoughts that my daughter didnt talk to me for 2 years. lolWell, seeing as you ran and edited it way back when you were first called on it that might not be possible. I remember that conversation. You can deny it all you want, but I personally remember it. It was the clincher for me on how much your attitude towards kids reminded me of my father. You said it....I know it and even though you'll never admit it, you know it. Now go ahead and do your thing. Deflect attention away by turning it around. I'll await with baited breath your twisting of either my words or someone else's so you can jump up and down and say "See? I can do the same thing". It doesn't change what happened.QuoteYou should calm down a little, DJ, my daughter did fine. All those past posts you just read prove that and it bugs the crap out of you. You have actually added validity to my facts, thank you. Thanks for screening through them all, DJ.I cannot fathom the amount of cognitive dissonance it takes for you to live with yourself.
Oh, thanks Anne, your memory seals it!! I dont think any of the readers would think you were biased towards DJ. We all know I have answered the same question over and over again for 5 years and DJ has just showed all the other readers that I was consistent each time....
Quote from: "Whooter"Oh, thanks Anne, your memory seals it!! I dont think any of the readers would think you were biased towards DJ. We all know I have answered the same question over and over again for 5 years and DJ has just showed all the other readers that I was consistent each time....Mmmmm hmmm.I cannot fathom the amount of cognitive dissonance it takes for you to live with yourself.
Oh come on, with all this history in the database, you think people are going to believe someones memory over what was actually written or a link to an original post?
Who, When I first came onto fornits everyone convinced me that I was abused. I never felt I really was but this is a persuasive bunch of people and until coming here I never knew how broad the term abuse was. I always thought it was defined in terms of physical, psychological or sexual abuse. But fornits has taught me that abuse can mean anything we want it to mean, if we “feel “ we were abused then we were!! If a staff member yelled at me then that means he is abusive towards me and since he works for the program then that means the programs is abusive and since the program is part of an industry then the entire industry must be abusive also. So it is simple deduction that every member of the Troubled Teen industry is abusive!! It is so simple I cant believe I never saw it that way before. Reading here has really opened my eyes.I am glad your daughter has come around finally. I heard rumors the 2 of you were not speaking.
Quote from: "ADS"Who, When I first came onto fornits everyone convinced me that I was abused. I never felt I really was but this is a persuasive bunch of people and until coming here I never knew how broad the term abuse was. I always thought it was defined in terms of physical, psychological or sexual abuse. But fornits has taught me that abuse can mean anything we want it to mean, if we “feel “ we were abused then we were!! If a staff member yelled at me then that means he is abusive towards me and since he works for the program then that means the programs is abusive and since the program is part of an industry then the entire industry must be abusive also. So it is simple deduction that every member of the Troubled Teen industry is abusive!! It is so simple I cant believe I never saw it that way before. Reading here has really opened my eyes.I am glad your daughter has come around finally. I heard rumors the 2 of you were not speaking.You will hear all sorts of nasty rumors about me and my daughter. Don't believe them, they are not true and we get along great now. It's so nice to know that fornits has benefited people as much as you. It really has made my life better too. I used to be bored with life, and had nobody to talk to. But now I wake up refreshed, knowing there will always be someone willing to talk to me on fornits! Even if it's not the most pleasant conversation, I don't mind because any sort of human interaction is better than none at all. The term abuse can mean whatever you want it to mean, that is the great thing about free speech. You are open to your opinion just as much as I am to mine. As I say this, there are always the people who come back and ask if I support free speech so much, then why do I support programs that control speech in every way. That is a completely different situation, apples and oranges. ...
Man, I don’t blame my parents at all. I was so screwed up when I was 16 that freedom of speech was the last of my worries. I was so high all the time that my speech was slurred and no one could understand me anyway LOL so it really didn’t matter. I couldn’t remember half my therapy sessions, I exposed myself to my guidance counsellor and missed over 120 days of school my sophomore year. I sold my dads car to some freak in the city for an amount I don’t remember and my kid sister had to be tested for Hep C exposure 3 times in 2 years. I dried out in some hospital about 200 miles away from home and then ended up in PV. Now 4 years later I am able to function day to day on Zoloft and thats it, got my GED. As soon as I get some money together I plan to surprise my dad with a new car. Its the least I can do, I have no idea how he paid for my time at PV. But I am sure it would have been mine and my sisters inheritance someday.At this point in my life I am just glad they did something for me and didn’t give up on me and am grateful my sister didn’t end up with Hep C like I did. I am not going to beat them up because they chose a shitty place for me. I owe them big time and my kid sister is so beautiful and we are the best of friends now.
Quote from: "TomK"Man, I don’t blame my parents at all. I was so screwed up when I was 16 that freedom of speech was the last of my worries. I was so high all the time that my speech was slurred and no one could understand me anyway LOL so it really didn’t matter. I couldn’t remember half my therapy sessions, I exposed myself to my guidance counsellor and missed over 120 days of school my sophomore year. I sold my dads car to some freak in the city for an amount I don’t remember and my kid sister had to be tested for Hep C exposure 3 times in 2 years. I dried out in some hospital about 200 miles away from home and then ended up in PV. Now 4 years later I am able to function day to day on Zoloft and thats it, got my GED. As soon as I get some money together I plan to surprise my dad with a new car. Its the least I can do, I have no idea how he paid for my time at PV. But I am sure it would have been mine and my sisters inheritance someday.At this point in my life I am just glad they did something for me and didn’t give up on me and am grateful my sister didn’t end up with Hep C like I did. I am not going to beat them up because they chose a shitty place for me. I owe them big time and my kid sister is so beautiful and we are the best of friends now.LOL sold your dads car!! I never attended a day of school my sophomore year and pretty much slept all day and was out all night. My mom covered for me because she knew my dad would kill me or send me away if he found out how bad it really was. Then I was caught dealing to this guy who was sleeping with this 14 year old, he was like old in his 40’s or something like that. So it made the papers and my dad flipped (I mean really flipped) and I was on a plane a few days later. Being sent to a program meant no jail time. I am not comfortable naming the program but I can tell you that most of the kids there were not as bad off as I was. Looking back I wish my dad had found out sooner so I would have missed all that time and spent money. I really screwed up my head all those years on drugs.Advice to parents reading. Don’t wait for the cops to get involved to do something to help your kid. It wont get better on its own, it will only get worse trust me!
Quote from: "Whooter"Oh come on, with all this history in the database, you think people are going to believe someones memory over what was actually written or a link to an original post?I really don't care who believes it or who doesn't. I honestly don't. I remember it, you know it and that's all I personally - for myself only, need.
Quote from: "The Who"That is the important thing. Thank-you guest and thank-you to the "we" you represent when you say "we understand that parents need help once in awhile with their at-risk teens." I am glad to speak to a representative of emotional growth programs. My daughter is a college graduate today, and alive because of one of your programs. She was angry and out of control. I didn't speak to her for 3 years after the escorts came for her except through phone calls. I looked forward to these calls though sometimes they were disconnected if my daughter became manipulative. (She said she was being hurt by "some kind of cult" "please help" "for the love of god.")ha, ha, ha. Teens have a wild imagination. But you love them.Then she would receive a consequence for trying to be manipulative. She soon became honest. That was the beginning of her recovery. Today she is happy. She still has her stuggles, but she is doing well. You just have to stick it out and it works out.I had a similar experience, my daughter attended ASR. It was highly structured but they allowed open communication between the parents and the child. That is funny about you daughter calling the place she was at a cult!! When I was younger I attended summer camp and there was a kid in our cabin that wrote to his parents and told them he was being starved to death and to come and get him!! We were all a little homesick I think. But they didn’t have any phones at all!! Imagine what fornits would have thought of this place!! Ha,Ha,Ha Manipulation is to be expected when the kids are facing hard work and consequences, but we all know our own kids the best and lending a sympathetic ear and encouragement to hang in there is a big help. The teen years are a tough time and sometimes the only thing we can do is love them and try to guide them the best we can to keep them out of harm’s way. Unfortunately sometimes intervention is needed to help accomplish this with some children....
That is the important thing. Thank-you guest and thank-you to the "we" you represent when you say "we understand that parents need help once in awhile with their at-risk teens." I am glad to speak to a representative of emotional growth programs. My daughter is a college graduate today, and alive because of one of your programs. She was angry and out of control. I didn't speak to her for 3 years after the escorts came for her except through phone calls. I looked forward to these calls though sometimes they were disconnected if my daughter became manipulative. (She said she was being hurt by "some kind of cult" "please help" "for the love of god.")ha, ha, ha. Teens have a wild imagination. But you love them.Then she would receive a consequence for trying to be manipulative. She soon became honest. That was the beginning of her recovery. Today she is happy. She still has her stuggles, but she is doing well. You just have to stick it out and it works out.
Quote from: "TheWho"Who, When I first came onto fornits everyone convinced me that I was abused. I never felt I really was but this is a persuasive bunch of people and until coming here I never knew how broad the term abuse was. I always thought it was defined in terms of physical, psychological or sexual abuse. But fornits has taught me that abuse can mean anything we want it to mean, if we “feel “ we were abused then we were!! If a staff member yelled at me then that means he is abusive towards me and since he works for the program then that means the programs is abusive and since the program is part of an industry then the entire industry must be abusive also. So it is simple deduction that every member of the Troubled Teen industry is abusive!! It is so simple I cant believe I never saw it that way before. Reading here has really opened my eyes.I am glad your daughter has come around finally. I heard rumors the 2 of you were not speaking.And here he is impersonating a survivor. Complete with mention of said daughter after he was busted.
Quote from: "Anne Bonney"Quote from: "Whooter"Oh come on, with all this history in the database, you think people are going to believe someones memory over what was actually written or a link to an original post?I really don't care who believes it or who doesn't. I honestly don't. I remember it, you know it and that's all I personally - for myself only, need.Thats cool. I remember plenty of stuff about DJ's and many other peoples' posts but there is no sense bringing it up, in my opinion, without proof. But I agree with you it doesnt really matter to me what other people think anyway. We are just a bunch of Avatars.I wonder how DJ is making out on all those posts where he claimed myself and others called him a "Child Rapist"? That was a bit bazaar....
