The Who

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DJ Wrote:

Well, of course you don't need advice on mental health care, social work or otherwise. Your program gives you that advice??..Logical fallacy alert: TheWho is using ad hominems again rather than defending his position which, by the way, I made no comment upon..

Boo,Hoo?. TheWho isn?t playing fair?.he made light of me and my career/advice, and we don?t do that here on fornits?..so I will label him as one who uses ad Hominems.

 Sorry to rile you up DJ?. If you want to comment on the data, please read it and understand it first.  Throwing around a few statistical words, you looked up, makes you look foolish.  My point was that you should stick with your social work advice!

I do recall, however, that you stated you fired from a long string of jobs for precisely the behaviors you exhibit here. Reminder: You were fired from several jobs, not me.

Yes, DJ, and I moved on each time and eventually realized I couldn?t work for anyone else, so I started my own string of businesses.
You spend your time in the past trying to punish and inflict pain on the people in your last position.   This isn?t healthy and until you accept who you are and why it didn?t work out in your last job you wouldn?t be able to move forward.

Blah, blah, blah, blah...

Who, let me reiterate just one more time:  Don't inflate your sense of worth.  You are not capable of getting me emotionally invested in anything you say.

As I've said before, I couldn't care less what you post.  Nothing you say evokes any emotional response whatsoever from me.  You're just some dummy on the internet - there are millions more like you floating around uselessly in cyberspace.

It is interesting though how you try to assign your values to everyone else, even going as far as to transpose your own shoddy work history onto others while asserting they are disgruntled.  It's called "projection," and you do it constantly.

Again, it's no wonder why your daughter was so screwed up and why your relationship is in the rubbish pile.  You're a real winner, buddy.   :roll:

[TheWho]

DJ Wrote:

Don't inflate your sense of worth?..there are millions more like you floating around uselessly in cyberspace.

Hmmm? what did you call it?.?projection"??  Interesting how that applies.  As far as trying to get an emotional response?.I believe you were the one that came over here from the HLA thread to comment on the data collection?..  I don?t mind if you comment or get involve if you like, but don?t cry and resort to attacks because you cant keep up or add value to the conversation.  If we were talking about Social work I would take your advice into consideration, but staying within your element would be more beneficial to the parents and kids, if you did want to help.

[RobertBruce]

staying within your element

Cindy I'm eager to hear how the metal stamping business relates to this industry. What exactly are your expertiese and how are you qualified to discuss the matter?

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Who, how can you claim to add value to anything here?  You have your own thread that's over 100 pages of drivel (like the ASR thread after you hosed it all up).  If that's not the definition of "useless," I'm not sure what is...

Remember, Who, about keeping with what you know, you're the genius who insisted for weeks on end (and insisted I prove you wrong, even though the 'data' is readily available with a few mouse clicks) that there are "10,000 practicing psychologists in the United States" when in reality there are over 150,000 that are members of the APA alone and that is only a fraction of the total number.

So, you'll forgive me if it stands to reason, by objective analysis of your posts, that you just don't know what you're talking about.  It ain't that deep, buddy.

I know this upsets you greatly - being dismissed - as evidenced by your continuous posting of the same entry dozens of times in this thread.  People just don't lend your nonsense any credibility, so "get over it" and "move on."

[TheWho]

DJ Wrote:

I know this upsets you greatly - being dismissed - as evidenced by your continuous posting of the same entry dozens of times in this thread. People just don't lend your nonsense any credibility, so "get over it" and "move on."

Ha,Ha, I am not even in the shrink business and I know it is clear to everyone which one of us is upset.  If you were not upset over the data collection or felt it was unimportant you would have never come over from the HLA thread to bother posting here.  

If you do want to help or add value while you are here, I am presently looking for data for the time period July 1, 2002 thru June 2003

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The Who wrote:

"If you were not upset over the data collection or felt it was unimportant you would have never come over from the HLA thread to bother posting here."

Nah, you got it wrong again, pal (surprise, surprise).  I never commented upon your little boondoggle except to caution others that aren't familiar with you that you've no idea what you're talking about.

I'm curious, Who, why do you keep saying "come over here from the HLA thread"?  Are you under the impression that people here don't have the ability to post in any thread that they want to?  In case you misunderstand, it's true - we have complete freedom of movement here.

BTW, I was posting here long before you ever did, so were you so upset with what I was posting that 'you came over here from Google' to refute it?

Or, when you were posting dozens of times anonymously in the HLA thread, were you doing so because you were upset?  Or are you above all that and it's only everyone else who posted in the 'TheWho' thread that's 'upset and angry'?

Your statement seems pretty silly in retrospect, wouldn't you agree?

[Anonymous]

DJ, don't you have better things to do than endlessly feed this troll?

[TheWho]

DJ wrote:

BTW, I was posting here long before you ever did, so were you so upset with what I was posting that 'you came over here from Google' to refute it?

Ha,Ha,  Truth hurts, he?. And it comes down to ?na,na,na? I was here first, so there?.   DJ your Ego precedes you and you are acting childish, who cares if you were here first?  Are parents who come on here for the first time less important than you or know any less because of it?  Get over yourself?

Let me give you a little advice,  you will feel much better about yourself if you do more to help people rather than trying to tear people down.  Forget about the past do something positive today, forget HLA, try helping more of the kids and their parents?.  I am sorry my views don?t agree with yours, but you need to get use to the idea that everyone doesn?t buy into your position.  That is how the real world is DJ?..

[RobertBruce]

but I want you to get use to the idea that everyone doesn?t buy into your position. That is how the real world is

Words for you to live by Cindy. You need to print them off and paste them on your bathroom mirror. That way you can be reminded of them each and every day. Its a lesson you sorely need.


As for the rest......

Ha,Ha, Truth hurts, he?. And it comes down to ?na,na,na? I was here first, so there?. DJ your Ego precedes you and you are acting childish, who cares if you were here first? Are parents who come on here for the first time less important than you or know any less because of it? Get over yourself?

Let me give you a little advice, you will feel much better about yourself if you do more to help people rather than trying to tear people down. Forget about the past do something positive today, forget HLA, try helping more of the kids and their parents

You laugh but really its sad that youre so far out of touch with reality you dont even recognize your own argument being used against you.


Get help soon Cindy. Seriously.

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DJ wrote:

BTW, I was posting here long before you ever did, so were you so upset with what I was posting that 'you came over here from Google' to refute it?

Ha,Ha,  Truth hurts, he?. And it comes down to ?na,na,na? I was here first, so there?.   DJ your Ego precedes you and you are acting childish, who cares if you were here first?  Are parents who come on here for the first time less important than you or know any less because of it?  Get over yourself?

Let me give you a little advice,  you will feel much better about yourself if you do more to help people rather than trying to tear people down.  Forget about the past do something positive today, forget HLA, try helping more of the kids and their parents?.  I am sorry my views don?t agree with yours, but I want you to get use to the idea that everyone doesn?t buy into your position.  That is how the real world is DJ?..

Wow, you really do have problems understanding basic English.

Sorry, let me say it in a different way, so you might actually understand.

It's not "I was here first" and "my ego hurts."  That's not it at all and you missed the point entirely.  Please go back and re-read for comprehension and you will see that I was asking you a question about how people get here (to Fornits or to a particular thread).  

Since you believe I am "angry" and "upset" over your "data" or I would not have "come here from the HLA thread," I simply asked (as stands to reason using your logic) are you upset and angry over what I posted in the HLA threads and therefore came there to "feed your ego" because you're "upset and angry"?

It's a pretty simple concept, but you have the "program parent" syndrome whereby your assertions about others apply but when you are confronted with the same situation (in reverse) their assertions about you derived from your logic/reasoning somehow don't apply.

I'd like some clarification on this.

If I'm "angry and upset" as you claim is evidenced simply by my posting in this thread, are you not "angry and upset" as evidenced by your posting in the HLA thread?  

It's your statement.  I just wanted you to clarify and to understand that I believe this is a silly thing to say.

If you can't understand it now, maybe TSW can break it down "Barney Style" for you...?

TheWho wrote:
"forget HLA, try helping more of the kids and their parents"

I'm not sure how I can help the parents and kids at HLA more by ignoring the fact that they have been defrauded and horribly abused, respectively.  

Can you help me understand how forgetting about child abuse helps it go away?

One way I help parents in your thread is to educate them that you have no clue what you're talking about.  This thread is, after all, about you, not some data.  Maybe you should start a new thread for your precious data collection...?

[TheWho]

Look you can babble if you like and beat up on HLA.....knock yourself out!  It doesnt interest me... here is what I was working on before you came here and I am still working on.  I have cpmpleted 3 years and am working on July1, 2002 thru June 2003, here take a look see if you can add anyhting:


So I am simple comparing a child?s safety at a TBS (24 hours per day) vs not being at a TBS (24 hours per day)
We have this data to present to date
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July 1, 1999 thru June 2000

Outside a TBS: -----There where 1,537 Homicides and 1,415 suicides (NCES)
Inside a TBS --------There where 0 Homicides and 2 suicides.*
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July 1, 2000 thru June 2001  

Outside a TBS: -----There where 1,466 Homicides and 1,493 suicides (NCES)
Inside a TBS --------There where 0 Homicides and 1 suicide.  (Data set still open)*
 
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July 1, 2001 thru June 2002  

Outside a TBS: -----There where 1,468 Homicides and 1,400 suicides (NCES)
Inside a TBS --------There where 0 Homicides and 0 suicides.  ( Data set still open)*

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July 1, 2002 thru June 2003  

Outside a TBS: -----There where 1,515 Homicides and 1,331 suicides [/b](NCES)
Inside a TBS --------There where 0 Homicides and 0 suicides.  ( Data set still open)*

NCES ? National Center for Education Statistics
* - Data found here on fornits, internet new articles, posts and PM?s

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DJ, don't you have better things to do than endlessly feed this troll?

Eh, it's a slow day.  I see TheWho as an ignorant, not a troll.  Seriously, he believes what he says even though it flies in the face of reality.

Nah, Who, you're not a troll.  Trolling really involves some sort of deception or active sabotage.

That being said, some people may take your steadfast adherence to debunked data as "trolling" because many of the assertions you make are factually bereft.  We've all learned that, even though it seems you intend these items to be interpreted as fact, when you're pressed, you always admit it's your opinion.

I, for one, don't believe you're a troll.  You're just incredibly misguided on a number of issues.  Ignorance is actually a defense to trolling, as trolling requires willful deception.  

You's jus' ig'nant!

[Anonymous]

For those of you just joining us (shyeah, right), its TBS numbers are make-believe.

::troll::

Stop. Feeding. It.

[Anonymous]

Eh, it's a slow day. I see TheWho as an ignorant, not a troll.

Either fucking way, DJ. Seriously.

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OK, OK, Milk.  I'm done for the day.  One Who pretzel logic per day is my limit... :lol:

See yas tomorrow!