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« Reply #45 on: June 25, 2006, 01:07:00 AM »
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On 2006-06-24 21:58:00, Pegasus wrote:

"As you say... yes they were little girls.

This will sicken you.

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Goddammit!  I knew something was fucked up about that.  I mean besides the obvious.  Fuckers!!!  No WONDER that got a reaction out of him!  I remember her being brought back into group CLEARLY!  God I just couldn't believe it.  I thought she was even younger than 15 at the time though.  Please post if you happen to hear any more info about her.
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« Reply #46 on: June 25, 2006, 01:15:00 AM »
LOL Cut me some slack, my memory is hazy on time frames... I was guessing she was 15 by then... she very well might have still only been 14 when it happened... I honestly don't remember.

Yeah. No shit... man when you threw Kimmy's name in his face, you hit a rawer nerve than you realized... LMAO He did some nasty shit to that little girl... and it was witnessed by those men.

I remember we all thought it was weird... how often was a lowly cop out walked into group BY the big man himself??

I figured you would remember. I can not imagine anyone who was there would ever forget the leopard bikini incident. I've tried to find her in recent years but no luck... and her grandparents have passed away so no connections. Plus I am no longer in Orlando... hell I am no longer in Florida... LOL So all I have is the internet and phone for searching... which is great IF the person being searched is *in the system*... useless if they aren't. LOL
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« Reply #47 on: June 25, 2006, 01:23:00 AM »
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On 2006-06-24 22:15:00, Pegasus wrote:

"LOL Cut me some slack, my memory is hazy on time frames... I was guessing she was 15 by then... she very well might have still only been 14 when it happened... I honestly don't remember.


Nah, I figure it's my bad memory.  I was thinking she was still 12 or 13 then, but she couldn't have been.

Cool!  More ammo for when I visit again.  It's a riot.  Last time I was nailing Ruthie on a few points and she actually said to me "I never gave you permission to call me by my first name". My response: "PERMISSION????????? (then I laughed)  Fuck you RUTH ANN. I ain't in Straight anymore RUTH ANN.  I don't need your permission to do anything RUTH ANN.  You fucking cunt."  My toes were up against her property, not on it, and I was yelling about 3 feet from her face.  

Damn it felt good. ::bigsmilebounce::  ::bwahaha2::  ::birthday::  ::fuckoff::  ::both::
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« Reply #48 on: June 25, 2006, 04:39:00 AM »
>>"I never gave you permission to call me by my first name".<<

That one just kills me. I can not believe the colossal fucking EGO she has to think that she could have any form of control over one of us still. To think, after all these years, that if she gives a command, you would cower down to her.
UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE!!!

Well... remember Kimmy was just about to turn 13 when she came in, she was like 12 and 10 months. She had been IN the program at least a year when this incident happened.
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« Reply #49 on: June 26, 2006, 03:04:00 PM »
To be honest, I truly have a hard time understanding HOW Newton and his cronies are not only... NOT rotting in jail, but still operating childrens organizations, still in positions of political power, still got money coming out their asses. I mean I know they covered their asses well but damn... after all these years, all the lawsuits and public accusations... you would think they would lose credibility along the lines!
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« Reply #50 on: June 26, 2006, 03:30:00 PM »
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"To be honest, I truly have a hard time understanding HOW Newton and his cronies are not only... NOT rotting in jail, but still operating childrens organizations, still in positions of political power, still got money coming out their asses. I mean I know they covered their asses well but damn... after all these years, all the lawsuits and public accusations... you would think they would lose credibility along the lines!"


Newton is part of DFAF.  DFAF is run by republican big guys.   Money talks....the money from Semblers et al goes to the republican party.   Their ass is covered by the republicans.  Now you know the rest of the story........
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« Reply #51 on: June 27, 2006, 10:46:00 PM »
I remember lots of folks mentioned in this thread.
Bill H.  12/80-12/82.
Got shipped to Atlanta for being bad. Executive rap in late 81 Ruthie and Virgil delighted in telling me this in front of all.
Assholes.
 I knew when I saw Miller grab Luray Harbor one day by the hair and she was 13 yo about 95 pounds that he got off on it.
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« Reply #52 on: June 28, 2006, 12:45:00 AM »
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Money talks....the money from Semblers et al goes to the republican party.   Their ass is covered by the republicans.  Now you know the rest of the story........"


That's not the whole story. They're only hawkin' what the market is buying. And this season getting tough on kids is selling hot.

Why that, of all things? Has a society ever turned on and from it's own young like this before? What comes next?  

The memory of my own suffering has prevented me from ever shadowing one young soul with the superstitions of the Christian religion.
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« Reply #53 on: June 28, 2006, 06:18:00 PM »
I shudder to think.
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« Reply #54 on: June 28, 2006, 08:41:00 PM »
Bill H. 12/80-12/82

Is that your info??
I am trying to decide if I remember you.
I was 11/81-4/83 so we were there together.

Email me privately.
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« Reply #55 on: July 05, 2006, 08:59:00 PM »
bump  :em:
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« Reply #56 on: July 06, 2006, 01:15:00 AM »
I am trying to figure out the exact dates, I was transfered to Straight-Atlanta in August 1981 (according to things I read about when that concentration camp opened) and escaped shortly there after. Finally reaching phase 3 after 10 months. I was in St Pete in what had to be late 1980. I was in a total 10 months, 3 weeks, 5 days and about 6 hours. When I escaped I called my parents from a payphone after vanishing for 3 weeks and was ready to go underground forever if they didnt call off the dogs. I was 17 then and now I am 42. It was a pretty evil place. I remember seeing a guy jump through a small Florida crank style window to get to freedom. I saw a guy heave a livingroom chair through a sliding glass door. (Fellow Newcommer). I had been denied being able to use the restroom during a rap and ended up pissing myself and having to sit in piss for several hours till lunch break and even then, I didnt get freash clothes. I had been "restrained" many times. This as you know means 4-6 people wrestle you to the ground and sit on your chest, legs and arms and head. I was made to eat peanut butter sandwitches and water at the table while the oldcommer family had steaks, spagetti and other more tasty meals. That was a two week sentance of bread, peanut butter and water.. For trying to "split" /escape.. Each of my split attempts was followed a decent beating followed by some deprivation ie: food, sleap etc and of course a restart LOL, I was on phase 1 for 9 months and restarted 3-4 times.. I had an ingrown toenail during my stay and it took an act of congress to get to go to a doctor and then I was not allowed even as much as an asprin for fear I might get high.. If I were to see any of those old men (who must be at least 50-60 now) who ran that place I think I would just kick their ass.  God, that was a long time ago... memories still pretty vivid. If you were among the 1st group of folks to go to Straight-Atlanta from St Pete, it would be good to hear.
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« Reply #57 on: July 06, 2006, 01:32:00 AM »
I guess I must have just missed you by a couple months. I was taken into Straight St Pete in November 1981.

I well know all the stuff you mention... been there, done that. :sad:
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« Reply #58 on: July 07, 2006, 01:28:00 AM »
I think I figured out when I went to St Pete. I had tickets in my pocket for the Heaven and Hell tour of Black Sabboth and BOC which was Sept 12, 1980 which was a Friday. I went in the day before that so, That was Sept 11, 1980. I rember being pretty angry that I was being made to stay and having to miss the concert. That being said I was there the same time as Bill H.

If Atlanta opened Aug 1st 1981 then that would be right because I was in Atlanta when I escaped. Atlanta had just opened I knew once I got back to my home turf they could never find me.  I am married now, successfull with a kid of my own etc now. Pretty much grew out of the old lifestyle but I often wonder how others did once escaping.

Shortly after my escape I was probably worse than before as far as drugs went. I was lucky enough to stay out of the reach of the law for anything "serious" I had a few public drunks, dui, bar fighting etc but no "busts"
I did have more awareness not only of myself but of my piers which was helpfull in seeing through their bullshit and playing on their insecurities etc. Once I decided I wanted to stop the lifestyle at age 27, 10 years after straight they pretty much dropped me like a hot potato. Living well is the best revenge. I still wouldnt mind kickin the shit out of Newton though. lol
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« Reply #59 on: July 07, 2006, 07:48:00 AM »
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