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« Reply #45 on: June 05, 2006, 01:04:00 AM »
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On 2006-06-04 14:55:00, Anonymous wrote:

Do you like takin' it up the ol' hershey highway? :rofl:
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« Reply #46 on: June 07, 2006, 01:38:00 PM »
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What I think I'll do is bend her over for a little ride on my meat-whistle, shit for brains! ::bwahaha::  ::hehehmm::  ::argue::  :rofl:  :rofl:  :tup:
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« Reply #47 on: June 07, 2006, 02:11:00 PM »
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Also the ISP assigns the IP address to my router, not each PC behind the router. The router assigns an IP address to each machine, but the Internet does not see these IP addresses. Although it would not matter for identification purposes which specific PC in my home I am using, it does matter if the router belongs to a company. Then there is no way to identify the specific employee, only the company.

Thus, I don't understand how people here can identify individuals based on their IP address, especially if they use dial-up, or only have one PC which they log in and out of daily.


You've got it partially right.  

The device your ISP issued you is often incorrectly called a "router."  It is actually a modem.  Your modem is assigned an IP address from a block that your ISP has available - this is called DHCP or "Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol," that assigns IP's "on the fly."  Even though it may assign you a new IP after each reboot (this is not necessarily so) only the fourth octet of the address changes and the first three octets are tied to a small geographic area due to network segmentation/architecture.

Your router is the multiport device connected behind the modem to which individual PC's connect.  You set the IP address for your router (or maybe you used the default which is usually 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1 depending on the manufacturer) which, in turn, deals out IP addresses to DHCP eanabled PC's (192.168.0.x or 192.168.1.x, where x is a random number between 2 and 255).

SO...  Your internal network consists of your router and PC's which are normally not seen by outsiders as your IP address.  They see your modem's IP.

Also, if you have java enabled (or some other features) many times your individual computer information can be viewed by outsiders.

Typically I'd say that most IP tracing done on BBS like this one are done by a combination of actual IP address and content of posts.  Also, this is a relatively small site, so the odds of posters sharing the same ISP and same IP block are very, very small.  In addition, your login name is attached to every IP address you've used to connect, so one can see the "pool" of addresses for each user.  Also, specific IP addresses can be traced to specific LAN's or domains from where the poster posts (like Hidden Lake Academy  :wave: ).

There are also other identifiers that can be passed by your PC including the computer name (randomly generated on install of Windows OS or set by user) or MAC (Media Access Control) address which is the absolutely unique physical address identifier of your Network Interface Card - you can't hide from that one, ever.

It is wise to remember that every transaction you make on the internet is traceable, even through proxy servers (a LOT more work).  I always advise people to imagine that every thing you post or email will be read by a judge.

Hope this helps!
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« Reply #48 on: June 07, 2006, 02:21:00 PM »
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Typically I'd say that most IP tracing done on BBS like this one are done by a combination of actual IP address and content of posts. Also, this is a relatively small site, so the odds of posters sharing the same ISP and same IP block are very, very small.

Right, unless they use AOL (which I believe uses a proxy; the scenario you described later on). I've noticed lots of IP's grouped together as if they came from the same user that were most definitely not posted by the same user.
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« Reply #49 on: June 07, 2006, 11:07:00 PM »
Thanks DJ, I get it. I also feel a bit stupid. I should have known the modem vs router part since I access my router's settings by typing in its IP address as a URL in my browser. Putting two and two together should have alerted me that my router's static IP address is not going to be the same as the ISP assigned IP address. Duh!

I still have a question. Who here has access to the IP address of a particular post? Is this something anyone can check or only a board's moderator? Not that I want to do this mind you, I'm just curious.

I agree about not posting anything you would not want a judge to see and often consider that. Many a time, I've pressed the Nah' forget it button thinking I'm revealing too much or being too mean. I also pretend my family, boss, or a coworker is reading the forum and knows who I am. It keeps me honest.
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« Reply #50 on: June 08, 2006, 07:22:00 AM »
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I still have a question. Who here has access to the IP address of a particular post?


Any moderator or the site admin.
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« Reply #51 on: June 09, 2006, 03:18:00 PM »
Let the poster's comments speak for the poster.  Ya know what I mean? If it quacks like a duck......
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« Reply #52 on: June 09, 2006, 06:12:00 PM »
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On 2006-06-07 19:02:00, Three Springs Waygookin wrote:

"http://www.3proxy.com is my flavor of the month.

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Choco-Pie is YOUR flavor of the month!
I just arrived In'Cheon,in the 5th floor PC Room acros the street from the In'Cheon Express Bus Terminal.Freaking EXPENSIVE 31,100Won for a 4 1/2 hour bus ride to Pusan.
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« Reply #53 on: June 09, 2006, 06:20:00 PM »
Your MOTHER is the flavor of the month..at the local WHOREHOUSE. :wave:
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« Reply #54 on: June 09, 2006, 08:40:00 PM »
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"Your MOTHER is the flavor of the month..at the local WHOREHOUSE. :wave:"


My MOTHER does not work in the local whorehouse.
She works at the "out of town" whorehouse.
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« Reply #55 on: June 09, 2006, 09:08:00 PM »
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On 2006-06-09 15:20:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Your MOTHER is the flavor of the month..at the local WHOREHOUSE. :nworthy:  :nworthy:  :nworthy:  :nworthy:  :nworthy:
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