Scary Larry back on campus!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

the Thurrells used to live in an apt on top of the girls dorm, prob. how he set things up in the 1st place.  one of the students  who was there for summer school the year this shit hit told me Bob used to come home drunk all the time, that she would smell alcohol on his breth and that he appeared to be having marital difficulties.  she didnt say more than that, but she was upset.

[Ursus]

I thnk Bob was teaching kids at some boat building place near Portland about 5 ys ago.

That sounds about right...

[Jesus H Christ]

including crying on our shoulders about his marriage

  I thought Hyde taught character.   That is pretty weak. Crying to an underage girl about your wife for a pity fuck. Sad.

[Anonymous]

The "future teaching placement" part. Was Hyde aware that Thurrell was seeking employment in a middle school, where he could be a danger to other children? If so, to what extent was Hyde responsible for his employment there?

Good question.  I have no idea.  But the middle school placement appears to be a relatively recent entry in Thurrell's illustrious teaching career.  It may well be that his wife is more responsible for the requisite "character reference."  One would imagine that a Waldorf school would require more than that.  Perhaps the current Hyde School administration could attest to giving said reference?

I was under the impression that once you are guilty of such a transgression, you are not supposed to teach kids again.

Thurrell was not found guilty of statutory rape; the case was settled out of court. Unless stipulated otherwise in the settlement, Thurrell can continue to teach minors and Hyde can write him glowing character references. Unethical, yes; illegal, no. I'm inclined to believe that Legg would behave ethically and not furnish Thurrell with character references; but that's just my personal bias.

[Anonymous]

The "future teaching placement" part. Was Hyde aware that Thurrell was seeking employment in a middle school, where he could be a danger to other children? If so, to what extent was Hyde responsible for his employment there?

Good question.  I have no idea.  But the middle school placement appears to be a relatively recent entry in Thurrell's illustrious teaching career.  It may well be that his wife is more responsible for the requisite "character reference."  One would imagine that a Waldorf school would require more than that.  Perhaps the current Hyde School administration could attest to giving said reference?

I was under the impression that once you are guilty of such a transgression, you are not supposed to teach kids again.

Thurrell was not found guilty of statutory rape; the case was settled out of court. Unless stipulated otherwise in the settlement, Thurrell can continue to teach minors and Hyde can write him glowing character references. Unethical, yes; illegal, no. I'm inclined to believe that Legg would behave ethically and not furnish Thurrell with character references; but that's just my personal bias.

Legg long gone.  More likely Mal or:

Laura Denton Gauld and Laurie Gauld Hurd were both students at Hyde when the Thurrell incident occurred. They have both been well schooled in the art of protecting the Hyde cabal at the expense of the victimized student.

[Jesus H Christ]

The "future teaching placement" part. Was Hyde aware that Thurrell was seeking employment in a middle school, where he could be a danger to other children? If so, to what extent was Hyde responsible for his employment there?

Good question.  I have no idea.  But the middle school placement appears to be a relatively recent entry in Thurrell's illustrious teaching career.  It may well be that his wife is more responsible for the requisite "character reference."  One would imagine that a Waldorf school would require more than that.  Perhaps the current Hyde School administration could attest to giving said reference?

I was under the impression that once you are guilty of such a transgression, you are not supposed to teach kids again.

Thurrell was not found guilty of statutory rape; the case was settled out of court. Unless stipulated otherwise in the settlement, Thurrell can continue to teach minors and Hyde can write him glowing character references. Unethical, yes; illegal, no. I'm inclined to believe that Legg would behave ethically and not furnish Thurrell with character references; but that's just my personal bias.

   It is easy to confuse the fact that Legg appeared rational when juxtaposed to an emotionally unbalanced man like Joe, with ethical behaviour.  Do not forget Ed was trained as a Lawyer, a profession where your guiding principle is jealously guarding the interest of your client.   My take is the interest that Ed jealously guarded was Ed's.   Many people identified with him because he seemed like a stable father figure, again juxtaposed with the manic screaming, crying then  pink cloud behaviour of Joe.
  The thing I bear in mind when reflecting on my years at Hyde is I was in a community that wanted to do a little brain salad surgery, lead by a lawyer and a mathematician.  Looking back on it, it was the minister that should have been put in charge.

[Ursus]

Thurrell was not found guilty of statutory rape; the case was settled out of court. Unless stipulated otherwise in the settlement, Thurrell can continue to teach minors and Hyde can write him glowing character references. Unethical, yes; illegal, no.

And, from what I gather, the Dubinsky case was also settled out of court.  Pity.  Perhaps the third such time will be the charm.  I say such time, as there clearly have been other cases, just not quite as publicized amongst the plebeian rabble as the cases involving Thurrell and Dubinsky.

[Anonymous]

Looking back on it, it was the minister that should have been put in charge.

I always thought he should name his kid "Lettuce."

[Ursus]

  It is easy to confuse the fact that Legg appeared rational when juxtaposed to an emotionally unbalanced man like Joe, with ethical behaviour.  Do not forget Ed was trained as a Lawyer, a profession where your guiding principle is jealous guarding the interest of your client.   My take is the interest that Ed jealously guarded was Ed's.   Many people identified with him because he seemed like a stable father figure, again juxtaposed with the manic screaming, crying then  pink cloud behaviour of Joe.
  The thing I bear in mind when reflecting on my years at Hyde is I was in a community that wanted to do a little brain salad surgery, lead by a lawyer and a mathematician.  Looking back on it, it was the minister that should have been put in charge.

Legg may have been trained as an Attorney, but he also did many stupid things like expel students on a whim, and not give Parents tuition money back when they were supposed to.  Yes, I found out recently that Hyde did indeed have a tuition refund policy at one time!  It was discontinued at some point in the 1980s.

Hyde would have indeed been a saner place if Larry Pray had been put in charge.  But I seriously doubt that he could have stomached it for long.  This place is very much a personality cult of the Gauld's.

[Jesus H Christ]

Looking back on it, it was the minister that should have been put in charge.

I always thought he should name his kid "Lettuce."

Armand Aaron Legg

[Jesus H Christ]

a personality cult

  You have hit the nail squarely on the head with a 22 oz framing hammer.

  All of the character clap trap, the thin broth of secular humanisim boot strapped off the "Truth" the snake oil of character building, none of it works with out charisma.  You need Prof. Hill or Joe Gauld or Stalin or .....

[Ursus]

Looking back on it, it was the minister that should have been put in charge.

I always thought he should name his kid "Lettuce."

 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

I do think I might know you.  I did know a chap that said that at the time... perhaps it was a more commonly voiced sentiment than I realized...

[Anonymous]

They are all SICK!!  I was there when Dubinsky was fondling the girls.  He did it in many ways including crying on our shoulders about his marriage, talking about his messed up life, making us devulge every detail of our sex lives, and trying to get us to come over for a late night dip in his pool when his wife was out of town.  

What about all the stacks of pictures in his home of ONLY female students.  Isn't this a little odd?  We all knew it was hopeless to complain about him.  Everyone knew he was part of the Hyde family of sicko's and if we protested in anyway, we would be the ones who would get in trouble.  The girl who was molested by him was tortured even more by Hyde's sick way of dealing with illegal matters. They wanted her to "confront" him in front of the headmaster as well as other administrators both male and female.  In the normal world, this would have been treated completely differently.  The girl would have been protected both physically and emotionally in the best possible way.  The police would have been called in.  Her parents would have been notified immediately and Dubinsky would be put on probation at once.  Instead we all got a letter stating that Dubinsky needed some time away.  Not one word about the fact that we had a student on campus who needed our help, only words about poor Dubinsky who seemed to be the victim.  Where was the honesty to the parents who deserved to know the truth about what had been going on at the school?  Didn't they deserve to be warned and have an opportunity to ask the rest of us if we also encountered the pervert?

That place is a cesspool that needs to be closed down!  I don't understand why there aren't regulations in place for these dangerous places like Hyde School

I wrote the post that you quoted. I have to admit that, having left many years ago without suffering any major trauma, I devote a few minutes of my day to this site primarily for amusement; it's rebellious and fun, just like old times. The subject of Hyde as the microcosm of a small state run by madmen also holds some interest for me. But when I read posts like yours I am reminded of the very real suffering going on there, and I feel for you kids. I agree with you 200% that "the Hyde way" should be banned, and I am optimistic that it will be when children's rights and the harmfulness of homespun mental health therapies like Gauld's become a big enough public issue. Hopefully, our insights and testimonies will hasten that day.

What the hell is wrong with a place that sacrifices the psychological health, not to mention sanity, of its students and families to protect one of its own?  Guest is right, these people are SICK!!  Oh, there are regulations alright, but Hyde places itself above them.

Hyde School knowingly declines to report sexual abuses committed by its faculty, knowingly withholds information of such activity from the rest of the community, and knowingly reinstates and/or abets future teaching placement of the offending party once the student and their family have gone.  What does this say about Hyde's modus operandi?

Hyde considers itself above the law.  Think about that for a minute.  Think about the sheer arrogance that it takes to continue that mind set for decades.  The Dubinsky case is nothing new to Hyde.  Laura Denton Gauld and Laurie Gauld Hurd were both students at Hyde when the Thurrell incident occurred.  They have both been well schooled in the art of protecting the Hyde cabal at the expense of the victimized student.

The difference between Hyde and a school/youth center that follows ethical standards, is the following.  My kids went to a youth center where a coach was accused of fondling a boy.  This coach was immediately suspended and every single parent whose kids went to the youth center got a notice about the accusations.  This coach had not been found guilty at this point but the youth center sent the notice out for two reasons.  Number one to warn parents, and number two, to see if there were others who had been abused and might come forward now that it was public knowledge.

This is how Thurell, Dubinsky and all the other cases at Hyde should be handled.  Instead Hyde tries to cover their asses at the expense of the students.  Hyde is full of it when they use words like "concern", "honestly", blah, blah, blah!  They are so completely hypocritical.  They show "concern" and "honesty" when it is in their best interest ONLY!!  Someone once said that Hyde is still learning (i think it was billy)......give me a break!  After 40 years Hyde should know a little more than trying to protect a perpetrator rather than a kids who is a victim! Most any person with the smallest amount of character would show more concern for kids who had been through a trauma!  

Any parent who is researching sending their kids to Hyde should be very cautious and do your homework.  Contact some of the people who have given their names on this website.  The majority of these posters seem to be honest and sincere.

[Ursus]

You said it!!!

It is the kids who ultimately pay the highest price for Hyde's pathetically flaccid forty-year learning curve.
 

This coach had not been found guilty at this point but the youth center sent the notice out for two reasons. Number one to warn parents, and number two, to see if there were others who had been abused and might come forward now that it was public knowledge.

Hyde is not interested in warning parents; they are too afraid of the bad publicity.  By the same token, Hyde does not want to learn of others who have been abused, and actually takes steps to squelch that possibility.  Any kid who sees what those girls were put through by Hyde has got to be out of their gourd to come forward at that point!  Yet other students did corroborate the girls' situations in both the Thurrell and the Dubinsky case, both of these men had tried before.  It seems to me that that information was highly diluted if not excised from most of the community's knowledge base due to Hyde's efforts.

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Along the same lines, if you are concerned about protecting your identity, it is super easy to get a gmail account, and alter your visible "name" in the Accounts section to whatever you wish.

[Anonymous]

Looking back on it, it was the minister that should have been put in charge.

I always thought he should name his kid "Lettuce."

 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

I do think I might know you.  I did know a chap that said that at the time... perhaps it was a more commonly voiced sentiment than I realized...

As you said, it was a commonly told joke. I'd call it a Folk Pun because its authorship is not clear, like folk music, folk songs. It was in the air in the late seventies.