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On 2006-05-27 22:02:00, Nihilanthic wrote:"QuoteOn 2006-05-27 07:14:00, Anonymous wrote:"helpful, considered responses are so nice.of course, the "panel" here is essentially (few exceptions) anti any program.IF a tbs is in order, know that some schools require wilderness first. BUT sometimes it is not a good idea - depends on the kid"Um, "the panel" here is the way it is for a reason:Theres zero proof any program worksTheres plenty that piecewise debunks the entire program bit by bitThey cost way too muchThere is no actual evaulation of the children to see if they have anything wrong or need any therapy - but even if they DID, programs dont provide that therapy.Basically, the program is for the parent, not the kid, and nobody has demonstrated otherwise. I like the arguement about calling us 'anti program' as if that has anything to do with the fact that they dont work..."
On 2006-05-27 07:14:00, Anonymous wrote:"helpful, considered responses are so nice.of course, the "panel" here is essentially (few exceptions) anti any program.IF a tbs is in order, know that some schools require wilderness first. BUT sometimes it is not a good idea - depends on the kid"
On 2006-05-27 13:40:00, Anonymous wrote:"Wilderness programs DO vary in quality. Second Nature is excellent- both Utah and Georgia. There are many other excellent programs. Do some research.I think on the whole, wilderness programs are better in quality and therapeutic benefit than the therapeutic schools. However, the programs are expensive and are not meant to be a long term placement."
What qualifications do I need? Second Nature looks for individuals with great people skills, ability to work in a team, and work under stressful situations if they arise. Field Instructors have diverse backgrounds and education. To work for Second Nature Wilderness Program you must be at least 19 years of age and have a high school diploma or equivalent. I want you to also be certified in Basic First Aid and CPR or greater (WFR, EMT).Second Nature seeks people who have wilderness experience. It is preferable that you have fairly extensive backpacking experience. This experience can be either be professional or personal. You will be backpacking and hiking your entire shift anywhere from 2 to 8 miles a day with a backpack. Second Nature does not use cabins or have a ?base camp?; you will be moving campsites almost everyday.Experience with youth, counseling, teaching, previous wilderness experience, or participation in similar activities will certainly improve your resume. Second Nature also offers in-house training from which you will be able to learn communication skills, crisis interventions, and many more tools that you will use working with teens. Second Nature will also ask that you make a commitment of working in the field for at least six to eight months.
What is the training?The training is a seven- day period spent in the field, backpacking and learning with experienced trainers and other trainees. The training may be both emotionally and physically challenging. You will be hiking anywhere from 2 to 10 miles a day over medium to rugged terrain with a backpack the entire week. Second Nature trainers will ask you to be open, emotionally vulnerable, and as uncomfortable as you are willing to be. You will also have the chance to learn about the program experientially. You will participate in role modeling, experiencing the program as both the student and Field Instructor.Your trainers will teach therapeutic interventions during the week. This includes communication and problem-solving skills, anger management techniques and how to appropriately confront students? issues. You will learn to use ?I Feel Statements? to express feelings and the concepts behind it to be able to teach it to the students.The training is not a competition with the other trainees but a time for all to work as a team and interact in a healthy manner. The training is viewed as an interview process where you will be observed within the structure of the program. It is a time for you as a trainee to ?interview? the program as well. Participating in the training does not guarantee you a job, however, if you have been selected to participate in the training you have already met some of the requirements and Second Nature has high hopes for you to be hired; at the end of Training, you will know your employment status.
On 2006-05-28 13:15:00, KarenInDallas wrote:"Whoops --- forgot to sign in."
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