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Offline cleveland

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« Reply #135 on: June 01, 2006, 04:49:00 PM »
Greg, you're using some of the language of the right wing, and the social darwinists, so...
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« Reply #136 on: June 01, 2006, 04:57:00 PM »
"should the wealth creators in our society pay for everyone else?"

That's the essence of your idea. Marx would say that the rich are "parasites who live off the labor of the working class."

Same idea, turned on it's head.

Perhaps if those who are fortunate enought to have can share with those who do not, AND those who can will work to their best ability AND no one cheats - we can have an equitable system. I think some people call in "communitarianism." But that will most likely only work for small, homogenous communities (Denmark, anyone?)

Anyway, I am just reacting to your emotional tone. Perhaps it would be better if you didn't imply that all the rich were virtuous, hard-working heroes and all the poor were lazy, scum-sucking slobs. Welfare queens and noblesse oblige. Ginger, where are you on this argument?
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« Reply #137 on: June 01, 2006, 06:16:00 PM »
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On 2006-06-01 13:49:00, cleveland wrote:

"Greg, you're using some of the language of the right wing, and the social darwinists, so..."...That's the essence of your idea. Marx would say that the rich are "parasites who live off the labor of the working class."



If you think voting all the money out of the 'rich' people's pockets is a workable solution, then we will just have to disagree.


I reject the idea that the rich or the poor are society's victims, nor do I think because someone has money they automatically owe the poor something. I personally don't mind, however, paying a bit more than my share.  But I already posted that.  Maybe you didn't read that far into my post?


I don't fit in these categories you are trying to squeeze me into.  My ideas are all over the board.  Sorry.

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« Reply #138 on: June 01, 2006, 06:18:00 PM »
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On 2006-06-01 13:57:00, cleveland wrote:

Anyway, I am just reacting to your emotional tone. Perhaps it would be better if you didn't imply that all the rich were virtuous, hard-working heroes and all the poor were lazy, scum-sucking slobs. Welfare queens and noblesse oblige. Ginger, where are you on this argument?



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I never implied this.  You are reading it into my words unfairly.
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« Reply #139 on: June 02, 2006, 08:28:00 AM »
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