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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2006, 01:36:00 AM »
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On 2006-04-17 11:53:00, Nihilanthic wrote:

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On 2006-04-17 08:29:00, Three Springs Waygookin wrote:


"Niles you may want to remember that even the most evilest of men can come across as sophisticated polite gentlemen. For reference, look to Ted Bundy who was by all reports a smooth well polished "lady killer".





Other examples can be used, but I think simply put Mr. Lon Woodbury is no dummy. He will put on a civil front for the purposes of business, and manipulating those who may represent a threat to his established order.





Overlordd take the time to see through his manipulations, and hopefully someday you will see how Mr. Lon Woodbury has played you like a fiddle.

The Christian faith from the beginning, is sacrifice: the sacrifice of all freedom, all pride, all self-confidence of spirit; it is at the same time subjection, a self-derision, and self-mutilation.
--Freidrich Nietzsche, German philosopher

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Allow me to say: "Duh".



Allow me to concantenate to that Staff personality disorder and Narcissistic personality disorder:



http://isnt.autistics.org/dsn-staff.html

http://www.mentalhealth.com/dis/p20-pe07.html



While thats most likely overdoing it... well, comparing Lon to Ted Bundy or Hitler is overdoing it to. Hes just a program junkie making a business firmly believing in the dogma and walking the programmie line, plain and simple.  



Im just ticked at the lack of criticism, the forced censorship, and the forum full of parents who describe intervention as "wearing down a child until they cant hide whats really going on" instead of what it is, psychological torture, and are just full of belief in confrontational seminars but cant handle non-confrontational, interent criticism.



Basically, its the hypocratsy and newspeaky nonsense. I cant stand it."



He sure as fuck ain't no papa smurf for damn sure.
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« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2006, 07:35:00 AM »
I agree Lon has been reasonable in the past - I don't agree with the "troubled teen industry stuff" but do know there is a need for appropriate residential schools when all else has failed, as a last resort, programs that allow and encourage as a matter of fact require Parental input and participation at any time, on all terms, ones that are close to home, appropriatly licensed, and short term.  No matter how much people may not like this it is a reality.  What is horrific to me is that Lon who is so admired and followed by desperate parents in crisis, is promoting programs that he knows are BAD, have a history as being horrific and harmful, and continues to allow them to advertise, and post what is written about them all the PR stuff.  All I asked for them to do is a responsible thing - if they are going to continue to work like this (until the Federal Reports come out of course with the truth), that they include all licensing information, etc., so parents and others know where they can call easily if something goes wrong.  It was not an adveserial email.  And for those of you who want to bash me, hey I know who I am, what I do, and why I do it, I can lay my head on my pillow at night knowing I am doing the right thing.  I have learned over time, those who throw these slingshots are more in a position to have to look in the mirror and reevaluate themselves.  

Have a great day!
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« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2006, 07:54:00 AM »
See! Civility!  :grin:
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« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2006, 07:54:00 AM »
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And for those of you who want to bash me, hey I know who I am, what I do, and why I do it, I can lay my head on my pillow at night knowing I am doing the right thing.  I have learned over time, those who throw these slingshots are more in a position to have to look in the mirror and reevaluate themselves.  



Have a great day!

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Ok, why do you keep making that same statement when...

1. abuse accusations are unaddressed
2. the isolation abuse and the fact that it allows other abuse to occur is just the big pink elephant in the room, even still?
3. "Intervention" used to "Wear them down until they cant hide whats really going on anymore" is talked about in much the same way anyone would talk about cutting their toenails, and yet its not such a mundane thing, when "wearing someone down" is called TORTURE by any other means
4. THERE IS STILL NO PROOF ANY OF IT WORKS, AT ALL!

Something we've been saying for years is all of this nonsense is just for the parents, so they feel better, and feel like theyre 'doing the right thing'. Period. Its not all about you, sometimes you have to deal with the fact that that other human being has needs and wants himself or herself, and your own emotional needs have to be put on hold for their own sake.

That said, the utter lack of a real education, the lack of communication, condoning abusive practices  (such as that isolation) and psychological torture so they go through a regression and disclose all their personal shit to someone with zero consent and no escape, and the lack of evidence it works, cant be ignored. That, combined with all the struggling turkeys going on about "I want my old kid back" and crying about it really leads me to wonder who this is all for and WHAT is all for.

Children grow up and their adult selves are no more like their childhood selves than you are like your childhood self. You have to make them able to be independant, not dependant on a program and/or yourself, if you want them to be adults. Training obedience and disclosure are two of the worst thinks you could ever drill into an adults head, unless you plan on living in a fascist/communist state in the future.

And yeah, guess what? Criticism is essential, and its not 'bashing'! Programs and ST are very critical of us and of children but never of themselves. What goes around comes around, at least where nobodys censored, like here. Maybe you should take a look into that mirror you hold at arms length, facing everyone else, sometime, anon.
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« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2006, 08:13:00 AM »
Well said Nihilanthic.
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« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2006, 11:12:00 AM »
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On 2006-04-18 04:54:00, Nihilanthic wrote:

 Criticism is essential, and its not 'bashing'! Programs and ST are very critical of us and of children but never of themselves.


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« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2006, 03:22:00 PM »
Lon Woodbury is a vampire sucking the blood from innocent children.  Somebody should drive a fat wooden stake directly through his heart.  Problem solved.
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« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2006, 05:14:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-18 04:54:00, Nihilanthic wrote:

That, combined with all the struggling turkeys going on about "I want my old kid back"


Something about this statement causes Luke to charge up in rage. His problems are settled, but sympathetic anger causes him to flex his electricity and his muscles. The pulse going through his brain is a single signal: Kill! Kill! Kill!

That's it. These... PEOPLE... if that's what they even are, are all going to pay. All of them! Anywhere! IN ANY WORLD! I don't care anymore.

You want your old kid back? You're getting me instead!
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« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2006, 06:17:00 PM »
Woah. No wonder Luke's been so pissed IRL. I'll get him to chill- he's not going to hurt me, but it's not good to get near him when he's pissed. Especially when swimming.

People, you're not getting your old kid back. Ever. That's the whole point of growing up. If they grew up in a direction you didn't like, you have no one but yourselves to blame. Suck it up and deal.
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« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2006, 10:51:00 PM »
Sounds to me like Luke needs to get laid alot more.
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« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2006, 11:18:00 PM »
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"Sounds to me like Luke needs to get laid alot more. "


Are you volunteering?
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« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2006, 09:20:00 AM »
well beings I ain't into fornicating with men, nor do I want a man playing around with my wiener then that would be a resounding no.
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« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2006, 09:21:00 AM »
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well beings I ain't into fornicating with men, nor do I want a man playing around with my wiener then that would be a resounding no. "


you are very homoerotic.
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