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Offline emaree

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« Reply #60 on: April 17, 2006, 07:39:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-17 07:58:00, emaree wrote:


"wow...you obviously have ignored most of our posts. i'm not surprised, most parents choose to believe only what is convinient for them.





point blank, if you leave your son there, you're a selfish fucking bastard.





don't be surprised when he tells you that himself. one years, two years, wonder how long it will take for him to realize it?"




Yes, Dad,



Clearly your search for truth anywhere but in the sterling annals of Fornits shows you're a bad guy. Just change your signature to BadDad. "


you know what, go through what i went through and remain calm when someone does it to another innocent kid.

I'm sorry you're such a sarcastic and ignorant dick, it must be hard to keep up that persona all the time.
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« Reply #61 on: April 17, 2006, 08:59:00 PM »
This guy must be a program disinformation specialist. It is unlikely that any WWASP dad would post here for information, particularly after they have already sent their kid to a WWASP hellhole.
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« Reply #62 on: April 17, 2006, 09:03:00 PM »
The dad said that he is seriously considering pulling his kid.  It has got to be horrible to realize the truth about what you're paying for and actually have the guts to do something about it.  Yay dad, ignore the bashing.
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« Reply #63 on: April 17, 2006, 10:11:00 PM »
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i am seriously thinking of pulling my son after alot of what i've read.



That's a start, hope you make the right decision.  :smile:
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« Reply #64 on: April 18, 2006, 09:01:00 AM »
I'm praying for you and your son.  ::dove::
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« Reply #65 on: April 18, 2006, 09:06:00 AM »
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"The dad said that he is seriously considering pulling his kid.  It has got to be horrible to realize the truth about what you're paying for and actually have the guts to do something about it.  Yay dad, ignore the bashing."


 :tup:
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« Reply #66 on: April 18, 2006, 11:20:00 AM »
Try this one:

   
 Come Back : A Mother and Daughter's Journey Through Hell and Back by Claire Fontaine and Mia Fontaine (Hardcover - April 1, 2006)  
Buy new:  $24.95 $15.72   Used & new from $13.99   Usually ships in 24 hours  
 
(Amazon)
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« Reply #67 on: April 18, 2006, 11:50:00 AM »
WWASPS DAD,

  I have never been in a program like this. I have read a lot about it because of a friend being put in one for drugs. I believe places like these need to be put in place to help us parents with out of control kids. Unfortunately there isn't one that involves the parents enough and these programs will take any kid even if they don't fit the program they will keep them for years some kids have spent there entire preteen and teen years in a program. Can you imagine how horrible it must feel to spend those precious years locked away with people you hardly know that really don't love you. The feeling that your parents hate you and just don't want you around and the sad thing is some of them don't and these schools allow this to happen as long as they pay. IMO ages 13 thru 19 are so hard don't ever give up it will pay off in the end. Even if you would never be that type of father that is the type of kids your son is becoming close with is that the type of role model you wont for him. That alone makes me think these places are no good. Even if you don't believe all the abuse that the school tells you the kids make up to grab your attention. Think about the fact that kids spend years in these programs. IMO in any program if in 3 to 6 months if there is no change it isn't going to work. If the first drug treatment didn't work send him to another then another never give up. I have never seen were these schools were set up to handle drug addiction. Some of the things I have read and heard would make me do drugs. My friend doesn't talk to his parents any more very sad he is in worse shape now then when he went in. It does help some but I would have to believe 80% it does not.  Good luck.
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« Reply #68 on: April 18, 2006, 12:00:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-18 08:20:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Try this one:



   

 Come Back : A Mother and Daughter's Journey Through Hell and Back by Claire Fontaine and Mia Fontaine (Hardcover - April 1, 2006)  

Buy new:  $24.95 $15.72   Used & new from $13.99   Usually ships in 24 hours  

 

(Amazon)

 

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Come Back : A Mother and Daughter's Journey Through Hell and Back

By Claire and Mia Fontaine
(To Be Released April 4, 2006)

From Publishers Weekly

A nightmarish saga of a teenage runaway in L.A. ends triumphantly thanks to love and support from her screenwriter mom and stepdad. At 15, Mia gets involved in a dangerous drug and Wicca scene, stunning her successful, controlling mother, Claire, and stepfather, Paul. But the signs were in place earlier, after Mia's history of being sexually abused by her biological father, a violent, vindictive drug user whom Claire left with difficulty. Sent to Indiana to live with Claire's sister, Mia starts using cocaine heavily and even gets arrested. When the destructive behavior (including self-mutilation) accelerates, Claire and Paul send Mia to the unlikely Morava Academy, in the Czech Republic, a kind of Spartan military institution where 50 teens are rigorously monitored and reprogrammed. Meanwhile, back in L.A., the parents undergo an intensive group therapy called Discovery to learn to shed guilt for their daughter's behavior, and also forgive her. Oddly, Morava is soon shut down after allegations of staff abuse, but Mia goes through a brilliant turnaround at Spring Creek Lodge in Montana. Mia's desperate diary entries appear between Claire's lively, angry, sarcastic narrative, allowing mother and daughter to maintain a heart-wrenching, honest dialogue. (Mar.)
Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.

Don't you just just love these reviews ... "Oddly .. Morava is soon shut down after allegations of staff abuse ..."

So what does the parent do? Send her kid to another WWASPS program called Spring Creek Lodge?

Sheesh, that just makes no sense ... but then again, this does appear to be the rule rather than the exception following the closure of other WWASPS programs alleged to be abusive like Dundee Ranch and Casa By The Sea.


This mom sends her kid out of the country to a place that is shut down for abuse and then turns around and sends her to another one where a kid has actually died.
 http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... forum=44&9

Lovely.  :roll:
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« Reply #69 on: April 18, 2006, 12:06:00 PM »
Spring Creek's Short Leash
by John S. Adams, photos by Chad Harder
 
Above: With around 450 students, Spring Creek Lodge is the largest of Montana?s approximately 35 teen behavior modification and therapeutic programs. Students there are not allowed to fraternize with members of the opposite sex.

Below: Spring Creek director Chaffin Pullan, left, and program director Mike Chisholm, seated, say that ?intervention? rooms like this one are used to ?cool down? disruptive students. Former students say they are used as solitary confinement.
 
 
Montana?s behavior modification programs watch their troubled teen charges like hawks. Recent lawsuits and allegations of abuse raise the question: Who?s watching them?

By the summer of 2004 Janet Larson was at her wit?s end. Her 17-year-old daughter Christina (both names have been changed) was drinking, smoking, sneaking out, doing drugs and lying. Her parents were worried sick she would drop out of school, end up in jail, or worse.

So they made a difficult decision that summer, a decision they hoped would change their daughter?s life: They decided to send Christina to a private behavior modification program in Western Montana. Like thousands of parents around the country who send their children away in hopes of saving their lives, Christina?s parents were convinced they had no other choice.

Her experience at Spring Creek Lodge in Thompson Falls did change Christina?s life, but not in the way her parents expected. Less than two months after enrolling in the program, Christina was back home in southern California, dealing with what her mother calls the ?shock treatment? she received at Spring Creek, as well as the news that a bunk-mate and friend at the school had killed herself just days after Christina?s departure.



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« Reply #70 on: April 18, 2006, 12:15:00 PM »
Look, suddenly the Hobbit has gone from this




to this (bottom pic)

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« Reply #71 on: April 18, 2006, 01:00:00 PM »
Even with purple walls, it's still cruel and inhumane. I wonder why they even bothered to pretty it up like that? Must of been for reporters. SCL uses isolation as a punishment and coercion, not as a safe place for a teen to calm down for 30 mins like psych hospitals do. They keep you in there for 72 hours at least for a CAT 5, and some kids stay in there indefinitely, or until they are transfered to a more abusive program outside of America.   ::noway::
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« Reply #72 on: April 18, 2006, 08:40:00 PM »
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"Even with purple walls, it's still cruel and inhumane. I wonder why they even bothered to pretty it up like that? Must of been for reporters. SCL uses isolation as a punishment and coercion, not as a safe place for a teen to calm down for 30 mins like psych hospitals do. They keep you in there for 72 hours at least for a CAT 5, and some kids stay in there indefinitely, or until they are transfered to a more abusive program outside of America.   ::noway:: "


Exactly. You know those one room public restrooms? Next time you go in one, imagine spending a week in there with no escape.
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« Reply #73 on: April 19, 2006, 12:29:00 AM »
If they took a picture with someone less chunky, 4 feet wide would seem a little roomier.
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« Reply #74 on: April 19, 2006, 09:08:00 AM »
The dude on the left is Cameron Pullman and I am guessing the guy on the right is Mike Chism? I can't remember exactly but I am pretty sure that is it. Both these guys are crazy and cameron especially. He used to make us do all kinds of weird shit, or he'd drop us. He loves being in control of teens for his own pleasure and obviously is being fed well.
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