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« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2006, 05:50:00 PM »
And?
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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2006, 07:51:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-15 14:50:00, juniper2 wrote:

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And I called the school and spoke to Clarke Poole who I found to be a credible, honest, intelligent person.  He did his homework about my kid and told me he'd be a good fit.  We were impressed with what we read on the website (which I now know to be ALL lies) and we made the decision to send him there.
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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2006, 09:03:00 PM »
When was this..? Peer group?
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« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2006, 12:56:00 AM »
There has GOT to be a way to hold these EdcCons to some account, before St. Peter that is.
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« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2006, 12:57:00 AM »
I'm sure they'll be accountablebefore St. Peter, I meant before they get there
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« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2006, 02:37:00 AM »
May take a civil suit.
ECs in Tx must be licensed to refer out-of-state. After several days of deliberating, the authorities responded that Mrs Hall was not in violation because she had not 'physically' delivered my son to Ga.  :roll:

Further, she knew nothing, and I mean nothing, about my son or HLA. She hadn't even met my son. Gave a referral over the phone, and the recommendation was based on 'the owner's reputation'.

One action that may be useful is to lobby for more stringent requirements for EC. Require them to fully investigate the programs they refer to. Are they licensed/monitored by the state? Any allegations of abuse, deaths/accidents? What specific techniques and methods of BM are employed? Do staff possess the required credentials?

For $3000 they should be required to do a little more than provide a phone number.
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« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2006, 04:46:00 AM »
really need to get an expose on the whole sordid mess, on television.

Say, the EdCon connection, the schools' brutality, the whole group of programs and schools, and with a focus on HLA, as there seem to be chinks in their armor developing. NBC has their Dateline shows, they seem to like kid oriented topics, and the shows are to my limited knowledge, a full hour on the topic. Parents should hammer NBC with (true)tales to see if they can get them to focus on this critical issue.

the whole EdCon connection is appalling, they need to be made responsible for what they do. I know the parents and guardians sure feel agony for allowing their children to go through these experiences. It is terrible in particular that the parents and guardians helped put the children in these schools, wanting to help their children. To have them hurt by the experience is unbearable.

And that is nothing compared to what the children have gone through in so many cases.
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« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2006, 01:04:00 PM »
I never at anytime spoke to or met my ed con. She never came to the school, didnt know a thing about it.
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« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2006, 02:13:00 PM »
But she 'knew' where you belonged RB? how did she come to be employed to send you there? She knew niether you , or the school.....
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« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2006, 07:29:00 PM »
Such details are inconsequential.

So long as both she and the Buch got paid, that is all that matters.
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« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2006, 01:33:00 AM »
Yuppers, it's all about dough.

These people use phoney piety and act like they care - yeah, they care, they care that they get paid!

It's like any other product to them. All you were was potential money, It's sickening. Money is all that matters anymore, seems like
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« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2006, 09:43:00 AM »
My question for HLA parents is WHY AREN'T YOU ASKING QUESTIONS???

I'd say the time is right for some unannounced visits to campus.  Just show up at any odd hour and demand to see your kid and inspect the facilities.

I think you'll be shocked at what you find...
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« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2006, 02:28:00 PM »
They aren't asking questions on this forum because they know it is populated by a bunch of losers. They are getting their questions answered by visiting the school and talking to the staff and ECs. Nothing YOU say, DJ, has any impact on anyone with a brain.
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« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2006, 02:23:00 AM »
If thats true why are there so many parents of former inmates here stating "no one would answer my questions".

However since what DJ and the rest of us are doing is having a huge impact on things I'm going to have to agree with your assesment.

The people we are exposing (please include yourself in this group) have no brains.

Or at the very least no soul. I mean why else would they behave in such a way?

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« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2006, 10:52:00 AM »
There is an association of educational consultants that represent both educational consultants for youth going off to college, private school, or "alternative" schools.  You can find it at http://www.iecaonline.com.  

Most hospitals, judicial organizations, insurance companies, both public and private schools, all providers for the care of our youth, make use of this association.  

The correct question is, which government agency is responsible for "policeing" this organization or imposing "ethical standards" as to who can use the title of ed con and or, also belong to this organization.  

As a parent of 14 yr. old, back in 2001, who I sent to first wilderness, then therapuetic boarding school in Utah, and then had the misfortune of allowing the ed con to trick me into placing at HLA, "while we got through the court process to resolve custody issues", I KNOW there is little or NO regulation of this industry.  

Those of you "former" students/parents who are most angry, and determined to make this industry change, my suggestion is that you put your energy into going to schools/institutions, where these kids are all "feeding" from and make it a point to talk to those kids and their parents/caregivers, at their schools/hosptitals/institutions, who are heading this direction and really help them understand what their "choice of behaviors" are setting them up for in life.  

Even better, make your government leaders "listen" to you about "concerns", for the impact these institutions are having on, some of our most vulnerable population.

If the kids think they are doing a "power trip" because of how "unfair" their life is, etc., let them know how the "HLA/corrupt power-tripping, out-of-control institutions", relative to "unfair" is going to affect their life long-term.  

HLA not only bullied my child, they used their legal/psychiatric/counseling/academic/medical/placement staff, in conjunction with the first ed con (who was then fired) to totally strip me, the mother, of any power to be able to advocate on behalf of my daughter.  

They empowered a totally uncaring,unparticipative rich father(you are so surprised the cozied up to the money), whose only desire was to hurt me, to use the Guardian Ad Litem in conjunction with the (second, also unprincipled) ed con, to cut me off from participating with my child's life for a year and a half and discredit me to the Court as to my activities as a parent.

In spite of all the money, manipulation, conspiring particiapted in by all the HLA/legal/ed con staff, fortunately, for both of us, my daughter and I, we were able to just "hang-in" until the whole litigation mess was over with her dad and then get away from HLA to go on to share a decent life/relationship with the rest of our family.

Buccalato intentionally "split" the parents and inflamed our whole family conflict, for the sole purpose of ensuring, as absolutely as much cash, out of this family's already tragic difficulties as he possibly could steal.

Rather than providing one iota of resolution to any of the family's "issues", ALL parties left the experience with that institution, with not only the command to HLA to never again contact any member of the family ever, for ANY reason, all parties would gladly give voice to litigation to expose the greedy, negligent practices of this institution.

My hope is that some of you that have endured at the hands of these institutions will actually, maturely go to your Congressman, Senator, Govenor, or write the President to get them to do an investigation into the industry as a whole.

There are some very good treatment places and some incredibly dedicated people to the young people who do need a "reality check".

There are some still very disturbed young people just "ragging on" otherwise credible institutions here.  It's not neccessarily to those of us who were hurt, to be the ones to distinguish bad institions from the good ones, but that would be the point of "regulation" in the country in this industry.  

For better or for worse, it is an industry we need, but for God's sake, someone needs to mind the fox who is guarding the chickens.
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