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Offline Anonymous

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« on: February 28, 2006, 06:59:00 PM »
I propose a solution- we all write our stories up or what we've seen, ...we submit them all to Child Protective Services in the respective states...
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2006, 07:49:00 PM »
oK do you want some help? Somehow we would have to keep them in a collective form they would and need to be serious no bull and you will need help from more then just one person...
Does anyone other then me thinks this is a good idea? Or are the things that happen to long ago for anything to come from this type of action?
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2006, 09:03:00 PM »
even stuff that happened 10 years ago is significant, particulalry if primary people are involved....e-mail charles or kat from cafety.org, they're collecting stories

admin@cafety.org

This could be good.  Plus we could also submit those same stories to Congress, if people give permission... spur on legislative action, plus possibly Congressional hearings.

This is what kat's story looks like...going to CPS in MT soon....  HELL, we have the power of our stories, why not use them.  

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=0#177470
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2006, 09:06:00 PM »
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On 2006-02-28 16:49:00, Anonymous wrote:

"oK do you want some help? Somehow we would have to keep them in a collective form they would and need to be serious no bull and you will need help from more then just one person...

Does anyone other then me thinks this is a good idea? Or are the things that happen to long ago for anything to come from this type of action?"


do you think it should be done as a group through cafety.org or every individual do it?
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2006, 08:07:00 AM »
I also think we should get all the stories of artie from Peggy. Let the world know how sick art is.
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2006, 10:29:00 AM »
Whos Peggy?
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2006, 06:12:00 PM »
WTF
Plz dont feed the little troll girls
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2006, 07:17:00 PM »
Come on we have a good topic going here dont ruin it guys.
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2006, 07:35:00 PM »
Diane is sooooooooo right lets stay on the subject and yes I know ignor the shit its so easy to get taken in sorry bout that....
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2006, 07:53:00 PM »
I think this is a wonderful idea. I have posted a few items on this site that I would testify in a court of law that yes they are my posting and yes they are true.

I do know that for me the statue of limitation (I was in elan from 74 to 76 has expired for me but there is still a possibility that my grievances against elan could be attached to a class action suit.

Nevertheless I think just posting the truth about what people had happen to them and witnessed happen to other poor souls that were trapped in that hellhole  would be a kind of publicty that might affect elan and quite possibly its henchmen and former henchmen .

And please lets stop with the lunacy garbage that erupts like an angry boil on this forum . I don't want to police this site and really try to give everyone the chance to dig themselves.

You all are survivours of certain pains of hell elan

Matt
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2006, 01:27:00 PM »
yes, but is there anyone in on this?  I have submited my story to Dr. Pinto, see here for more on that
http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_ ... &Itemid=38

that same story should be submitted to CPS, kat has it, e-mail address above.  I think we should all do that, but...it was really hard to do, I spent much of my time crying as a Iwrote, really freaked out...dunnoho many of you can reach in and dig this stuff out- it's very uncomfortable, but there's far more power in our stories than...than, jsut saying, these schools, or this school is bad...

So please, reach out to Dr Pinto or the cafety.org people.  Becuase the 'End Institutiaonlized Child Abuse act' is due for a hearing, we should submit them soon to Dr Pinto.  And I think John McCain can push this bill through- what if we send it to him with an official professional looking letter- presumably the Chareles or Kat can do that and jsut have a nice stack of stories from us describing the mental anguish, the...torture- or torture-lite, as Maia calls it.  

If people knew how rampant this was, esp John McCain, i think he would act.  This is why bills die- no one extensively supporting the bill and seeing it moves along, see here

http://cafety.org/index.php?option=com_ ... &Itemid=38

Even if EICA dies, at least we wil have created a something aroudn this issue and attempted to garner support from Congress people who are concerned.

so.... anyone on board?
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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2006, 11:16:00 AM »
Hi, my name is Sarah and I spent 2.5 years at the behavior modification facility that is called Casa by the Sea. My first day was Jan 3, 1999 and I didn't get to go home until the end of May 2001.

I was so upset when I first arrived that I was unable to eat for two weeks. Finally, they had one of the male staff force feed me by holding me down and shoving food down my throat, which continued even after I vomited. I started out in the "Courage Family," which consisted of a group of girls who where there for various reasons, including drugs, sex, violence, run away, etc. As far as I could tell, all I had done was smoke cigarettes, and get bad grades. I spent about the first two months of my time in the "worksheet room" because I spoke out of turn, or didn't fall to the ground and hide my face in time when the boys passed. Apparently it is considered wrong to look at a guy, which is something that it took me a year to get over when I got out.

All schooling was self study. Most of the books were ok, but the math books really sucked. It took me like 8 months to get through one chapter of Algebra because I didn't understand the teachers' attempts to tutor me.

Every family group has a "case manager" and my first one was Imelda, who stole things that my parents sent me. At least half of the books they sent were never given to me, THREE graphing calculators were stolen. Most of my items that were confiscated from me when I got there were missing when I left, the bin that my stuff was in was somehow gone and my stuff was in a laundry basket.

I remember one day when a new girl in our family ran away, and we were forced to stand in the seminar room all day facing the wall with our noses like an inch away. I never made it to level five or six, and found it almost impossible to get to levels 3 and 4. I had to stop brushing my hair because my red hair got everywhere and I was unable to get all of it out of my brush. When I had to live in a room with a girl who had scabies is when it got really bad because I got it too and was forced to be quarantined and wear an awful smelling cream that I still have nightmares about.

I still wake up in the middle of the night thinking that we have to go outside for a headcount, and I even dream in Spanish at times.

I was once sent out to the gynecologist and was told that I had Gonorrhea, which was impossible because I was a virgin, and had never come into contact with anyone who had that, but of course I had to pay a high price for that visit. I was forced to pay with my college money for all of the school's fees, which left me nothing to go to school on. I was forced to go through seminars every month, and found that if I was unwilling to comply with the program I would never get to go home.

I was once put on what they called a "challenge" where I was not allowed to speak at all, and was only allowed to non-verbally communicate with another student and was required to do everything that she told me to do. I was told that it was for my own good.

I have so many emotional scars from my time there that I will never be able to move passed. I was constantly used as an example by the administration when we had facility meetings as what not to do, and how not to act, and what was wrong with me. I still constantly think that I can't do anything right because when I was at Casa, I never could.

My parents were so convinced that they had to keep me away from my friends that when I got out, I had to go to a different school, and was not allowed to socialize until I turned 18.

I sometimes wake up hearing the tapes on the "World's 100 Greatest People" or the "World's 100 Greatest Books" that I had to listen to for hours every day until I was able to figure out how the rules worked. They finally had to send me to "PC-1" because I had been there for so long that they were sick of dealing with me. Then a month and 1/2 later I was woken by one of the "mamas" and told that I was going on a home pass, but that I could not tell anyone. Why not? Because I was a special case, and there was more to it, I just didn't know at the time.

When I was at the airport I was given paperwork and plane tickets, in it I found a letter from my parents to the administration thanking them for letting me go through the last seminar in May so that I could come home for good.

When I arrived back at Casa for the last two weeks of my stay, I was forced to write a 5000 word essay on the importance of being obedient, because I had told my friends that I was going home. I still don't understand why I should have hidden the fact that I was going home and that I was happy about it! I needed to say goodbye to my friends and prepare them for the fact that I was leaving. I still wish that I had been able to keep in contact with some of them. We all went through so much together that we should keep in thouch.
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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2006, 06:41:00 PM »
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