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Dear Mr. Grey
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2006, 12:01:00 AM »
What happened to Overlordd?  Where has he been?
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Dear Mr. Grey
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2006, 12:13:00 AM »
ahhh, ya missin' him over at ST, carlbrook troll?
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Dear Mr. Grey
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2006, 08:16:00 AM »
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On 2006-01-21 19:23:00, Eudora (fka ~ Antigen) wrote:

"This Mr. Grey





Bill Gray Jr

Operations Director



B.S. Justice Administration



http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/loadPr ... x?userID=5



Oh! Is this your son? Ewwww! Sorry, sorry. It's not his looks or the thought of you and some unimaginable Mr. Grey Sr. fornicating, it's the scenareo.

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Ginger, darling, you give Mr. Gray too much credit.  You "hit the nail on the head" when you opined he may be dumb as a bag of hammers.

This man is about as bright as a ten-watt bulb.  He's just a good, loyal footsoldier for the little general, Len.  Without that job, he'd be nothing, a nobody.  His job is to toe the line, nothing more, nothing less.
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Dear Mr. Grey
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2006, 09:17:00 AM »
Ginger, my ex has NEVER attended the Seed program. He attended high school in Indiana and then graduated from a catholic high school in Louisville, KY. He has NEVER lived in Florida. He has Never attended a drug rehab, a boarding school, a wilderness camp, or a therapeutic facility of any kind. He went to 1 public high school and 1 catholic high school. Is it possible that there are 2 Billy Gray's in the world??? I think that would be more likely of a scenario. NO, he does NOT know anything about the Seed program or philosophy. I think you have his job description confused with the owner or headmaster. His job is director of operations. He deals with things that have to do with physical plant, maintenance, nursing staff, vehicle maintenance, etc.

Also, you stated that I know Ottawa? Or did you mean I dont know Ottawa? I actually don't know anything about the woman except what I have read here. I dont know her, have never met her, nor do I know anybody who knows her. I have seen what she has typed here but other than that I dont know anything else about her at all.

You seem to be a bit paranoid Ginger. You give me way too much credit. I dont have connections to anybody like Ottawa, and I mentioned to you in a PM that my current husband attended the Seed and thought you ran a good site here and that was why I was surprised at your attitude towards me. Now you twisted that around that somehow my EX Husband is affiliated with the Seed, attended the Seed or knows something about their program, which he does not. That is my CURRENT husband that attended the Seed, my EX has nothing to do with the Seed at all. I dont know why you cant grasp this concept.
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Dear Mr. Grey
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2006, 09:43:00 AM »
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On 2006-01-21 19:23:00, Eudora (fka ~ Antigen) wrote:

"This Mr. Grey





Bill Gray Jr

Operations Director



B.S. Justice Administration



http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/loadPr ... x?userID=5



Oh! Is this your son? Ewwww! Sorry, sorry. It's not his looks or the thought of you and some unimaginable Mr. Grey Sr. fornicating, it's the scenareo.

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--Anonymous


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A phrenologist could make a whole career out of this picture.  Large, sloping forehead, widely spaced eyes, subdued infranasal depression.  
Just from that we'd know he's a criminally-minded, FAS baby of low intelligence.

Maybe this is how HLA diagnoses their patients too?
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Dear Mr. Grey
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2006, 02:30:00 PM »
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So, I've taken the liberty of creating for you your very own avatar. If you're up for it, please register a username, adopt the avatar and speak for yourself.

I want to know what you think. What your ex and her sadistic buddies have been doing to RB is just embarrassing, isn't it? Or do you actually approve? Can you possibly think that the character and callibur of your defenders reflects well on you or your organization?

You could probably take inspiration from the likes of John Underwood and Ft. Lauderdale, who both post occasionally or more over on the Seed forum.

Even a little boy sees rottenness rewarded and good people smacked down. Unctuous rationalizations of this by otherwise sensible adults disgust little children.
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Dear Mr. Grey
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2006, 05:18:00 PM »
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Ginger, darling, you give Mr. Gray too much credit.  You "hit the nail on the head" when you opined he may be dumb as a bag of hammers.



This man is about as bright as a ten-watt bulb.  He's just a good, loyal footsoldier for the little general, Len.  Without that job, he'd be nothing, a nobody.  His job is to toe the line, nothing more, nothing less."


Right, "Bill Gray Jr.
Operations Director

B.S. Justice Administration ..."


So he's actually trained, at least to the BS level, at his real job. But he's also SHH's connect into HLA, right? So I just wondered how he felt, personally, about the way HLA supporters are going about showing all of their love and support. If it were me? I'd be pretty annoyed by it, to say the least. In fact, I'd be asking them to please stop helping so much.

And we've clearly established that he's NOT the Seed connection. So then, what is? Is there one? Maybe Len knows something aboutit. Hmmm... what are this guy's credentials?

Here's a Google search on Why I Live at the PO
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Dear Mr. Grey
« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2006, 05:21:00 PM »
Ginger, why the screen name change babe?
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Dear Mr. Grey
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2006, 12:20:00 PM »
Oh, check out the thread in Let It Bleed.

Anyway, I have another question for the HLA staff who read and post here. If this is a school or therapy and not a private prison, how come your staff is so heavy on criminal justice training?

Marijuana in its natural form is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man. By  any measure of rational analysis marijuana can be safely used within the supervised routine of medical care.
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« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2006, 04:35:00 PM »
A quick look on the HLA website will show you that none of the Master's level therapist that do the counseling with the students have a Master's degree in criminal justice.

That claim is just more typical scare tactics from you.
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Dear Mr. Grey
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2006, 04:53:00 PM »
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"A quick look on the HLA website will show you that none of the Master's level therapist that do the counseling with the students have a Master's degree in criminal justice.



That claim is just more typical scare tactics from you."


Well the website is rife with fabrications anyway.  We should consider it a valid source for addressing concerns?  I don't think so.  It's a tool used to market the program.

Why doesn't it point out that some of your "master's level" counselors got degrees online without ever having done any clinical work?  Why doesn't it say the the average counselor lasts only a few months there?  Why doesn't it say that you sue any former employee who speaks up about what goes on there?  Why doesn't it say that you lock the kids up at night in violation of basic safety standards and fire codes?  Why doesn't it say the HLA is not licensed to perform counseling services?  WHY?

There's quite a bit you won't hear about HLA from its website, honey.  Go push that tired old chestnut on somebody gullible enough to believe you.
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Dear Mr. Grey
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2006, 05:00:00 PM »
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"A quick look on the HLA website will show you that none of the Master's level therapist that do the counseling with the students have a Master's degree in criminal justice.





That claim is just more typical scare tactics from you."




Well the website is rife with fabrications anyway.  We should consider it a valid source for addressing concerns?  I don't think so.  It's a tool used to market the program.



Why doesn't it point out that some of your "master's level" counselors got degrees online without ever having done any clinical work?  Why doesn't it say the the average counselor lasts only a few months there?  Why doesn't it say that you sue any former employee who speaks up about what goes on there?  Why doesn't it say that you lock the kids up at night in violation of basic safety standards and fire codes?  Why doesn't it say the HLA is not licensed to perform counseling services?  WHY?



There's quite a bit you won't hear about HLA from its website, honey.  Go push that tired old chestnut on somebody gullible enough to believe you."


Damn HLA.  They use a web-site to market their program.  That should be illegal.  Give me a break.  

Everything you said in you post is a lie except for the fact that HLA is not licensed by the state.
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Dear Mr. Grey
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2006, 05:04:00 PM »
Whatever, baghead.  Those are only the WELL-KNOWN little secrets you try to keep.  Your closets are overbrimming with much nastier skeletons.

How would you know anything about HLA anyway?  You never mentioned your qualifications.  It must be because you have none.  That's pretty clear.
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« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2006, 06:25:00 PM »
Forgot to mention the head master that was apparently once a prison guard.

Certianlly a nessecary qualification to run a theraputic school.
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Dear Mr. Grey
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2006, 06:31:00 PM »
Robert are you referring to Mr. Gray? Or the headmaster? I dont know what the current headmaster's background is, but I know Mr. Gray was never a "prison guard".
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