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« on: January 01, 2006, 08:30:00 AM »
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Death in the desert
A 14-year-old boy dies in a wilderness boot camp. Was too much 'tough love' equivalent to murder?
Anthony Haynes was a troubled teenager? so his mother enrolled him in a wilderness boot camp program. She knew it would be tough, but she didn't know it would be the last time she'd ever see her son alive.
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PHOENIX, Ariz. - Chuck Long ran a wilderness boot camp ? a 'tough love' program that was supposed to give troubled teens a new start. It was a beacon to desperate parents that is, until, a tragedy struck: A 14-year-old boy died while being punished in the scorching Arizona desert.

Soon other teens came forward, telling stories of abuse and violence. The camp's director was charged with second degree murder. Was this teenager's death a crime, or an accident?

'Tough love'
This is a story about tough love, and a boot camp commandant named Charles Long. His methods, when it came to his little army of angry teenagers, was, shall we say, ?direct.?

Keith Morrison, Dateline correspondent: So what do you do?

Charles Long: Say, ?Hey, if you really feel that angry, then maybe we need to wrestle.?

Morrison: You do that?

Long: I said "maybe we just need to wrestle a little bit." Wrestling can be very mental. And it can also be very physical.

For all his bluster, Charles Long was worshipped by scores of Phoenix-area parents who loved the way Long made personal projects of their troubled teens.

And among those kids was the boy at the center of this whole story: Melanie Hudson?s big, bad 14-year-old misfit son, Anthony Haynes.

Melanie Hudson, Anthony Haynes' mother: He was 5 feet 8 inches, and about 216 lbs. So he was getting to be a very big boy. He ran away once. He did the shoplifting once. He was constantly fighting with his step-dad. And we had filed incorrigible charges on him. And so he was on probation for a year.

Morrison: Was he angry?

Hudson: Very.

The breaking point was when Anthony slashed the tires on her car. Out of options and money, Hudson begged Long for help. He finally agreed to take Anthony into his five week summer boot camp as a charity case.

Morrison: What was it about Charles Long that made you think that he would be good for Tony?

Hudson: He kept telling me that they would make him be responsible for his actions. They would help me get him to that point to realize that there are consequences.

Were there ever.

A different kind of boot camp
In the Sonoran desert, suburban-soft Anthony experienced the particular joys of close order drill, calisthenics, and desert survival skills, always with a drill instructor by his side and a summer sun above.

Anthony and the others were treated like raw recruits? but not for anything like a modern army. Charles Long?s boot camp for wayward teens was not quite the same as others around the country. His was an imagined imitation of something right out of the 19th century ? the Buffalo soldiers.

Long?s idea at the beginning, a dozen years ago, was for men like him to celebrate or ?re-enact,? as he would say, the famed black cavalry of the old west. He even gave himself a rank and got everybody to call him ?colonel.?

And with their prancing horses, campaign hats, and cavalry uniforms, the Buffalo soldiers were a favorite attraction in local parades. They even performed as escorts for visiting dignitaries, like then-governor George Bush and retired general Colin Powell.

At one event in 1994, Powell asked Long to help troubled kids.

Long: When you get a general to ask me to do something like that, I took great pride in it.

To a former Marine like Long, General Powell?s suggestion felt more like an order. So Long expanded his Buffalo soldier program to include at-risk kids.

He wasn?t trained for such a thing, wasn?t a counselor or therapist, but that didn?t seem like an obstacle to Long, who had his own ideas about the value of psycho-therapy.

Long: So, you prescribe a child medication? Oh, it?s okay because it?s legal? He?s still taking a drug. So that?s more acceptable to you than if he?s taking cocaine, crack or smoking marijuana?

Long?s idea of therapy consisted of drill instructions and desert isolation.

Long: Not only do we have rattlesnakes out here, we have mountain lions out here. We have coyotes out here. And because of the problem of us not having a great amount of rainfall the last couple of years, we have bears out here. Going into the desert is an opportunity, in my opinion, to face your demons. Jesus went there. And you want to know why I go there? He went there.

That?s the other thing: Long is very clearly a sincere evangelical Christian who considers himself a ?soldier of the Lord.?

Morrison: What makes you a soldier of the Lord?

Long: In my opinion, I honestly believe, know, and can say, that by my faith in God, I?m here today.

So, Long built his boot camp not solely on military discipline but also on old testament principles.

Long: It?s called "not sparing the rod," is what it?s called.

Morrison: You beat them?

Long: No, sir. I do not beat children. No, sir. I have a paddle. Three strikes? And you?re subject to corporal punishment. But you don?t get corporal punishment by a paddle unless your parents have said, ?Oh yeah, go ahead,? and give them permission for that.

Morrison: Right, but you use a paddle?

Long: Yes, sir. And I?m the only one to do that.

Morrison: Sometimes are they chained together...

Long: We have extreme volatile situations at times, that one of the ways to help get a child to calm down is to restrain him.

Morrison: I?d love to know if there?s any body of evidence, anywhere, that says that the kind of program you?re running actually makes a positive difference in the lives of people.

Long: I have six young people in Iraq right now who literally started out in the Buffalo Soldiers as young people who were disrespectful. We have proved to the families who brought children to the Buffalo soldiers that going to the desert is a miracle worker.

One of Long?s most noted supporters was the local sheriff Joe Arpaio, a man who?d developed his own national reputation for tough love.

Joe Arpaio, local sheriff: I was impressed with his efforts to take care of kids, young kids, especially those that have problems.

In Sheriff Arpaio?s jails, inmates work in chain gangs are made to wear stripes and pink underwear, and some actually sleep in desert tents, much like Long?s Buffalo soldiers.

Arpaio: The kids seemed to really appreciate that program.

Arpaio and Long seemed a perfect match, the self-proclaimed ?toughest sheriff? in the land.

Arpaio would even attend Buffalo soldier graduation ceremonies. In appreciation, Long awarded the sheriff the ?Buffalo soldier humanitarian award.?

Of course there was one big difference between the two: Sheriff Arapio was dealing with convicted criminals, Charles Long with confused youngsters.

Morrison: Didn?t you put these kids in position of mortal risk?

Long: Excuse me? give us some, if you can, respect, that we?ve been in the desert for 13 years. And we had out of 13 years, we had an incident.

By ?incident? he means the very story you?re about to hear: what happened to young Anthony Haynes who was being punished one day Buffalo soldiers-style. He was forced to stand in the desert for hours on a blazing summer afternoon.

That evening his mother, Melanie was called to the hospital, and no one told her why.

Hudson: I thought I was going to treat a child with a stomach ache. But when I got to the hospital, they took me into a separate room as soon as I told them who I was. And that?s when doctors come in and told me that my son was gone. And I just looked at him and I pointed, ?Don?t you tell me my son?s dead.?

Who or what killed Anthony Haynes? And why would these two boosters of tough love, the desert sheriff and the Buffalo soldier, soon find themselves on opposite sides of the law?

CONTINUED: How did Anthony die?
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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2006, 10:41:00 PM »
I'm watching it now. The publicity is good. No reason they won't cover other programs if they cover this one.

To watch the kids articulate how this kid died is heartbreaking.  :sad:
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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2006, 11:18:00 PM »
Once again, in spite of the negligent death of a child in the name of "toughlove", other parents credit the program with saving their kids and even enrolled their own kids in this boot camp AFTER they knew a child had died.

What does this say about the value of this poor kid's life?  Oh well. As long as it's somebody else's kid, who cares?  

Those parents should be ashamed of themselves for their cowardice and their supreme ignorance.  No wonder these programs flourish as there does not seem to be any shortage of STUPID TROUBLED PARENTS desperate for a quick-fix.

Totally repulsive ... all of them!!!
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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2006, 01:35:00 PM »
Yes, but how much fun was it watching the ol'e "colonel" there doing the bunny hop? I enjoyed it thoroughly. And it is not insignificant at all that the sadistic altruistic bastard is in Joe Arpaio's house, of all places.

And he thinks he wants to run a boot camp inside that prison?  :rofl: Oh, I sure hope he does just that, I do. Cause he's got to make it another 5.5 years and that's about the surest way I can think of for him to piss off the wrong dude and get a little taste of what he's really got coming.

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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2006, 11:17:00 AM »
When it comes right down to it, it's virtually impossible to protect children from bad parents.

Troubled parents who institutionalize their children in bad places are just another kind of bad parents for whom there's a special corner of Hell waiting.

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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2006, 02:15:00 PM »
Yeah, I agree. There's one way in which I think we can improve that. For decades now, these bad parents have been able to pass themselves off as relatively good parents by saying things like "Oh, we sent Ryan to a private school in Costa Rica" or "Leslie just got so much out of that equian therapy summer camp!" And most people just believe it. Why would they not?

But we're changing that.

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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2006, 12:13:00 AM »
Charles Long?s boot was seasonal and in turn exempted from Arizona state regulations that govern year-round programs. Since Anthony Haynes? death, the law in Arizona has changed. Now all boot camps must comply with state regulations.

I wonder how much good that's gonna do. It's a start, I guess. I was disgusted with this story when I first read it right after it happened, and I'm more disgusted with it now. Strange how we don't hear much about these trials. Strange how someone can kill a child and spend 6 years in jail. Strange how this stuff continues to go on. Strange the government, who knows about it, doesn't move forward to put a stop to it.
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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2006, 12:45:00 AM »
More discussion here:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?So ... =9&start=0

One of the jurors posted beginning on page 2
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2006, 08:19:00 PM »
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Dateline's Disgrace: Soft on Tough-Love Teen's Manslaughter
January 06 2006
Maia Szalavitz
When will the media report the research showing that boot camps don't work?

Dateline NBC devoted an hour last Sunday to the appalling death of a 14-year-old boy in an Arizona boot camp for troubled youth and the recent trial and conviction of the man who ran the camp in that killing.

Anthony Haynes died in the American Buffalo Soldiers Re-enactor?s Association boot camp in July 2001 after being made to stand in 115-degree heat for hours and denied water and medical attention. Last year, the founder and operator of the camp, Charles Long, was convicted of reckless manslaughter in Haynes? death and of aggravated assault for menacing another teenager in the camp with a knife.

But Dateline ? like 48 Hours, which covered the case in a 2003 segment ? failed to mention that there is absolutely no evidence that ?tough love? programs like boot camps help kids.

The Justice Department lists boot camps for youth under ?What Doesn?t Work,? ? and a meta-analysis of the research on youth boot camps that conducted for Congress in 1998 found that it was no more effective than juvenile prison.

While three of the studies reviewed found no difference in recidivism, one found that boot camp graduates actually did significantly worse: 72% re-offended, as opposed to 50% of the former prisoners. A consensus ?state of the science? statement on the evidence on fighting juvenile delinquency by the NIH, published in late 2004, said that tough programs don?t work and may backfire.

In a feat of reporting that beggars irony, Dateline reporter Keith Morrison said to camp director Long, ?I'd love to know if there is any body of evidence anywhere that says that the kind of program you're running actually makes a positive difference in the lives of people.? Long responded with an anecdote about six former participants now serving in Iraq, and then NBC cut to a quote from a sheriff, discussing his support for the program before the teen died.

In other words, despite a showy display of seeking the truth ? give us some data! - Dateline ignored the voluminous scientific research showing that boot camps don?t work. Instead, the program kept stressing the jury?s conflict over convicting Long and the ongoing support of some parents for the program. The main voice of opposition to the boot camp was the dead teen?s mother.

Perhaps in order to make a more dramatic story, Dateline also gave credence to the defense?s claim that the child?s death?which occurred in a motel shower, where the dehydrated boy was left alone, vomiting dirt he?d eaten when he wasn?t allowed water? was really a suicide. It included testimony by a woman who claimed Haynes? mother had said the boy wanted to kill himself.

But left unasked was why a program intended to help kids would allow them to commit suicide?even if the boy was trying to die, that?s hardly a defense for permitting it.

In addition, as 48 Hours had previously reported, Dateline focused extensively on Long?s Christianity and his devotion as a father and family man, with numerous shots of him praying with his wife and kids. It quoted his opposition to psychiatric medication, comparing it to crack and marijuana.

Curiously, however, Dateline did not mention Long?s two prior arrests for domestic violence and his history of leaving behind investors so displeased with his financial dealings that some filed lawsuits.

Even more oddly, the show didn?t note the fact that when he was arrested for Haynes? death, police found a quarter pound of marijuana in his closet. That would often warrant a possession with intent to sell charge: it?s not just a few joints? worth and goes directly to his credibility as a man whose opposition to drugs is so extreme that he thinks even psychiatric medication is problematic.

Morrison pressed Long, who is now in prison, for evading and denying responsibility for the child?s death. But when will the media take responsibility for refusing to tell the truth about tough love? There?s no evidence that it works and people like Long are con men and sadists, not misunderstood saviors.

?Balancing? these stories by including testimonials favoring tough love and playing down the flaws of its promoters is like ?balancing? coverage of other forms of medical quackery: It does not serve the audience who deserve to have behavioral health covered with as much scientific rigor as other forms of medicine.

Maia Szalavitz is author of Help At Any Cost: How the Troubled-Teen industry Cons Parents and Hurts Kids, which will be published in February. Publishers Weekly describes the book as "Important" and a "courageous-if horrifying-study of the tough-love industry."[ This Message was edited by: AtomicAnt on 2006-01-14 17:21 ]
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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2006, 11:22:00 PM »
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Even more oddly, the show didn?t note the fact that when he was arrested for Haynes? death, police found a quarter pound of marijuana in his closet.

That is odd! I thought I was following the story and I never heard or read a thing about that! Not that I think trade in flowers is immoral or unethical, I don't. But he pretends to cure kids of it by extremely indefensible means. Let's see that little suckup's feet to the fire on that!

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?Balancing? these stories by including testimonials favoring tough love and playing down the flaws of its promoters is like ?balancing? coverage of other forms of medical quackery: It does not serve the audience who deserve to have behavioral health covered with as much scientific rigor as other forms of medicine.

A-Men!

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"Important" and a "courageous-if horrifying-study of the tough-love industry."


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