Brian, nobody likes being lied to (except when it's "Oh, you haven't changed a bit!" of "Wow, you're 40? You don't look a day over 32" kinda lies)
But, if you're going to come out of your cave and deal in the world with human beings, you'd better get used to it. People sometimes don't tell the truth. Sometimes when people don't tell the truth, they're
not lying. Sometimes they just remember things somewhat differently than others. Ask any journalist, cop or other type of investigator and they'll tell you that. Interview 100 people who all wittnessed the same event and you'll get 100 or more subtly different tellings.
Despite your fantasies, I actually don't have time to follow every post on these forums, research the stories told, determine what is and is not true and then censor it all to your liking. Even if I did that, it's unlikely as hell that you and I would ever come to 100% agreement on that. So you'd still be throwing childish fits, insisting that I'm in on some grand conspiracy or some such shit.
If I were to delete everything defamatory, then NOTHING of the truth about the Program would be left. It's all defamatory. Much of it is true, but do you have the time and money to put every detail to a legal challenge? Come on, money bags! Put your money where your mouth is!
I thought not.
Look, you lie all the damned time on these here forums. You know damned well that none of us are pedophiles or pro straight. Well, maybe you don't.
I'm actually ambivalent on the topic of some people's pro-straight sentiments. In my view, anybody who still believes that we should lock people up for private, consensual behavior such as using one drug instead of another is probably still influenced by the Program. Whether you call it punative or therapeutic doesn't make a difference in my book. Whether you got the idea while sitting in a chair in one of the warehouse locations or whether you got it from the DARE cop doesn't make a difference to me. It's still the Program and it's still a fucked up idea.
I didn't delete your shit because I disagree with it. If that were the determining factor, only my posts and a rare few others would remain on this server. And even most of mine would be gone *POOF* as I've come accross new information and amended my views and beliefs.
I deleted your posts because
- You brought in names and physical addresses that, put together, I believe constitute civil or criminal harassment or libel
- Several people now have contacted me asking how to go about getting you for it.
- Some of that is just anger, some is actual fear that you or some other crack pot who reads it may actually show up at said address and do violence to these folks.
- It's just quicker and easier for me to blow out all posts from the same IP than to sort through a lot of bullshit to delete just those posts that I think may draw legal action.
It takes all of the above, not just some points. I don't know what the fuck you think, but I'll tell you how it is. Right now (not for the first time) people are asking me how to prove, to a legal standard, who you are so that they can send either cops or lawyers to get you to stop posting their home addresses, the names of their children and spouses and false, defamatory information about them. I give them just the same answer as I've always given anybody, regardless of who they're pissed off at or frightened of or whether I agree or disagree w/ their reasoning.
It all boils down to this. I'm not a cop or a prosecutor, not a civil lawyer, not yo mama. I'm just some geek who hosts an
open and unmoderated forum. I tell anyone and everyone who asks this same question the same damned thing. If somebody has posted something that you think is criminally or civilly actionable, call the cops of get a lawyer. If I absolutely have to, I'll comply with any legitimate legal demand for information. But it's not my job to control you or anyone else nor to determine what is and is not legally defensible free speech.
I
reserve the right to edit or delete whatever junk I find laying around on my server. But that doesn't mean I'm going to chain myself to my desk or hire help to police you people. Es no mi job.
Brian, I don't know if you're going to believe this or not, but I truely and honestly was trying to avoid any legal hassle
for you as much as for anybody you're fucking with. But you're fucking with people who have
no sense of humor about this shit.
Whether you or he know it or not (and I'm completely undecided about that) you're working for Mel Sembler.
If you really believe that this site is so harmful to your cause, just go ahead and set up your own on Yahoo or Amazing Forums or any one of probably hundreds of other free servers. Run it however you like. I'll even list it in Anonanon and you're welcome to use these forums (within reason, of course, no spamming or flooding) to invite ppl over there. It ain't rocket science, ya know.
The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason.
--Benjamin Franklin, American Founding Father, author, and inventor
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