Hyde School, The Most Truthful Informative Post I have Seen

[Anonymous]

On 2006-03-18 04:44:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2006-03-17 20:49:00, Anonymous wrote:


"2. Teacher/coach who specialized in developing close relationships with the best looking girls in the school, and coaching them about "Leadership" in one-on-one sessions in his office.





This is an easy one!  Larry Dubinsky.  Total pervert who the administrators protected until a parent finally sued. He should have been arrested, but instead the school told us girls, "you need to confront him and tell him how he makes you feel."  oh yeah girls, let's tell Dubinsky that feeling us up to get his rocks off at practice makes us feel uncomfortable. I am sure he would have stopped if we let him know.......NOT!"

  I am sorry to hear that.  There is a natural tendency for institutions to circle the wagons in a case like this, to protect the mission.  Catholicism and it adherents were the keepers of the knowledge of the golden age through the dark ages in europe. As a non catholic christian and former catholic, I acknowledge the role the Church had in preserving and spreading the Word of Christ.  The church has existed for close to two millenia.  The recent sex abuse charges against catholic clergy speak to failures both institutional and human but not to failure of the mission of the church to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ.

I would submit that if the assurtions you have made are true, the same is true of hyde.  Hyde mission is not to molest pubesent girls any more then the Catholic Church's mission is to sodomize little boys.  It is a human failure on the part of an individual and the people surronding that individual not a flaw in the fundemental mission.



How did you pick up the on the Time article if you went to woodstock?  I was at that meeting in 76 and forgot all about it.  I am tring to remember which andrew .... Mann Swartz?  It is really funny (my apologies if Jim is reading this) being confronted by Jim was like encountering a toy poodle as a watch dog.  He was really a sweet guy. His wife was a very nice and caring person too. I think her name was Joanna.

The guy that was scary was Paul Hurd.  I had a chest Xray recently and the doctor asked how I got the indentations on my chest bone.  Just kidding.



sydney"

http://www.Greatschools.net
Very good website to post your feelings about Hyde School!

[Anonymous]

On 2006-05-09 11:56:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2006-03-18 05:35:00, Anonymous wrote:


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On 2006-03-18 04:44:00, Anonymous wrote:



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On 2006-03-17 20:49:00, Anonymous wrote:




"2. Teacher/coach who specialized in developing close relationships with the best looking girls in the school, and coaching them about "Leadership" in one-on-one sessions in his office.








There is a website called Greatschools.net.  Three people posted positive reviews about Hyde.  If you have anything to say about Hyde either positive or negative, this is a good way to spread the word.  http://www.greatschools.net




This is an easy one!  Larry Dubinsky.  Total pervert who the administrators protected until a parent finally sued. He should have been arrested, but instead the school told us girls, "you need to confront him and tell him how he makes you feel."  oh yeah girls, let's tell Dubinsky that feeling us up to get his rocks off at practice makes us feel uncomfortable. I am sure he would have stopped if we let him know.......NOT!"

  I am sorry to hear that.  There is a natural tendency for institutions to circle the wagons in a case like this, to protect the mission.  Catholicism and it adherents were the keepers of the knowledge of the golden age through the dark ages in europe. As a non catholic christian and former catholic, I acknowledge the role the Church had in preserving and spreading the Word of Christ.  The church has existed for close to two millenia.  The recent sex abuse charges against catholic clergy speak to failures both institutional and human but not to failure of the mission of the church to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ.



I would submit that if the assurtions you have made are true, the same is true of hyde.  Hyde mission is not to molest pubesent girls any more then the Catholic Church's mission is to sodomize little boys.  It is a human failure on the part of an individual and the people surronding that individual not a flaw in the fundemental mission.







How did you pick up the on the Time article if you went to woodstock?  I was at that meeting in 76 and forgot all about it.  I am tring to remember which andrew .... Mann Swartz?  It is really funny (my apologies if Jim is reading this) being confronted by Jim was like encountering a toy poodle as a watch dog.  He was really a sweet guy. His wife was a very nice and caring person too. I think her name was Joanna.



The guy that was scary was Paul Hurd.  I had a chest Xray recently and the doctor asked how I got the indentations on my chest bone.  Just kidding.







sydney"

I agree that Hyde's mission is not to molest, but the key question is, do you get rid of the molester and keep all the people who covered it up, or do you also get rid of the administrators who believed this was an acceptable way to run a place? If I am not mistaken the Catholic Church got rid of the head of the Church in Boston for the cover-ups, not strictly the molestors.





You wanted more names.  I can add to the other ones.  Ken Grant who physically attacked at least one girl that I know of, Don McMillan who has attacked at least one kid, and of course the in house pervert Dubinsky who loved to give back rubs to us in sports. Of course the other names were already brought up like the Prophet Joe Gauld.  Never did hear of his son Malcolm going at it physically with anyone, so guess that is a plus.





Hey, that's enough for me not to ever recommend Hyde to anyone.  The message might be good, but the messengers are one scary group."

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What were the incidents involving Ken Grant and Don McMillan?  What did they do?

[Anonymous]

this is laughable.

[Anonymous]

On 2006-03-19 06:04:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2006-03-15 16:31:00, Anonymous wrote:


"This week we received a telephone call from parents who are trying to find an appropriate boarding school for their child.  The mom explained to us that she "Googled" Hyde and found this website.  She said that she and her husband had heard some very negative things about Hyde, but that finding this website and reading many of the postings REALLY scared them.  They said they can't imagine sending their child to a school like Hyde, in light of all of the negative reports here.  She said the positive comments were overshadowed by the many thoughtful criticisms.  She also said their educational consultant doesn't recommend Hyde any longer.  





Anyway, they're looking for suggestions.  What other schools have people had good experiences with (their child is beginning to hang with the wrong crowd, is showing some signs of defiance, but isn't out of control)?





Thanks for your help."

My advice about helping parents find a good boarding school for their child:  First, find other parents whose kids have struggled with similar issues and are in boarding schools.  Second, find the names of educational consultants they've used and that they've had good experiences with.  Third, contact these educational consultants, explain your situation.  Fourth, ask the following key question: What do you think of the Hyde School.  If the educational consultant says it's a school worth considering, look for another educational consultant.  If the educational consultant expresses reservations about Hyde and says it's probably a good idea to look at alternatives to Hyde, continue talking.  That's a very good sign.  Any educational consultant who refers to Hyde either doesn't really know what goes on there or thinks like the Hyde cult.  That's a very bad sign."

This is very good advice.  I agree with it completely.  There are some educational consultants who refer kids to Hyde, but I bet they  know very little about all the negative stuff that really happens to many of the kids at Hyde (not to mention their parents).  If an educational consultant thinks Hyde is a good place, find out how much time they've really spent there and what they really know about what goes on behind closed doors (the confrontations with kids and parents, the mediocre education, the mind games).  Hyde looks pretty good from the outside; from the inside it smells bad to lots of us who have been there.  I'm willing to bet that many educational consultants have fallen for the slick Hyde public relations stuff. The most professional educational consultants who take the time to learn the inside scoop are likely to stay away from Hyde.

[Anonymous]

most professional educational consultants who take the time to learn the inside scoop are likely to stay away

May we see the raw data on which you base your assurtion?

Eileen Leftly

[Anonymous]

On 2006-05-20 13:19:00, Anonymous wrote:

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most professional educational consultants who take the time to learn the inside scoop are likely to stay away

May we see the raw data on which you base your assurtion?



Eileen Leftly"

I am not the person who wrote about the ed consultants, but I do know personally of two well known ones who won't refer kids to Hyde.

I would love to see someone dispute the fact that Hyde is a terrible school to get a good education!  I will argue this point until the day I die.  My parents were told that not only would I be educated in character, but that Hyde also had excellent teachers and programs.  This is probably one of Hyde's biggest lies and I am an example of the poor educational system at Hyde School.

I am three years behind after trying everything I could to get into a good college.  Oh yeah, I did the whole thing with Hyde by applying to every college on their list and of course I got into a community college.  Hyde makes sure of this so that they can post their lies and false stats on their website and other media.  Truth is, I was not ready for college with the poor study skills I learned at Hyde as well as the lax education.  I worked it out on my own after graduating and going through some rough times and I am not saying Hyde caused my problems from childhood, but they did lie to my parents.  This did cause me to falter because for the same money it cost my parents to send me to Hyde, they could have sent me to a good school that could have been more help to me.  It isn't about "what you put into it, you will get out."  This is all part of the bullshit cliches at Hyde and I am sick of hearing the same ones over and over again.  Hyde need to get their act together and stop the lies!!  Sure, blame it on the kids or blame it on the parents, but Hyde needs to take a better look at themselves.  Most of those people that run Hyde are total loosers, and yes I do mean most!!

[Anonymous]

On 2006-05-20 13:19:00, Anonymous wrote:

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most professional educational consultants who take the time to learn the inside scoop are likely to stay away

May we see the raw data on which you base your assurtion?



Eileen Leftly"

I suppose no one has raw data.  That would require a full survey of educ consultants.  For whatever it's worth, I personally know of 12 educational consultants (two that our family has worked with and others we've met through other parents or professional contacts) who absolutely refuse to refer kids to Hyde.  Maybe that's not enough to satisfy you.  I'd be willing to bet there are many more who won't refer to Hyde.

[Anonymous]

Ed Consultants won't refer LD, addicts, emotionally struggling kids, but they will refer a certain kind of kid....ine was the same way.

[Anonymous]

On 2006-05-21 04:47:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Ed Consultants won't refer LD, addicts, emotionally struggling kids, but they will refer a certain kind of kid....ine was the same way."

Don't know what you mean by this.  Ed Consults do refer kids with all of the above afflictions.  This is why Hyde has different types of kids all mixed in together and why Hyde School does not work in MHO!!  If Hyde did accept "a certain kind of kid" they would have a very small school with probably 1/8 of what it is now.  The stats on those kids would be pretty good overall, but instead they accept kids who don't belong at a school like Hyde.

I want you to understand that when you place your child at a school like Hyde, they are going to be exposed to all kinds of elements some of which Hyde is not capable of handling.  There will be many kids who will have a negative impact on your child.  Hyde uses the term, "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree", inferring that it is the parents influence that has affected the child.  Truth is it is all influences in a child's life, and if your child lives at Hyde for 2 or 3 years, they will also be influenced by the surroundings at Hyde.

Remember that the sweet, impressive kid who showed you around campus for the tour, is not typical of a Hyde student!  Intead, ask to sit in on a "family weekend" or an "FLC" which is where individual parents go to Hyde alone for a weekend to work on themselves with their child.  This is where you will get a geniune taste of Hyde!

[Anonymous]

On 2006-05-21 04:47:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Ed Consultants won't refer LD, addicts, emotionally struggling kids, but they will refer a certain kind of kid....ine was the same way."

Huh?  Is this a typo?  Are you saying ed consultants DON'T refer to Hyde kids with learning disorders, substance abuse issues, emotionally struggling kids?  I've personally met many such kids at Hyde who got there by way of an educ consultant.  The very sad reality is that some ed consultants don't seem to "get it" that Hyde is not equipped to handle these kids' special needs.  That's exactly why so many kids at Hyde have a hard time there and why some parents pull their kids out of Hyde.  They realize they've got a square peg-round hole problem.

[Anonymous]

so many

There are three kinds of people: those who can count and those that can't. How many is "so many?"  

Terri Klouthrobe

[Anonymous]

On 2006-05-21 17:15:00, Anonymous wrote:

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so many

There are three kinds of people: those who can count and those that can't. How many is "so many?"  



Terri Klouthrobe



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You want numbers?  Drive up to Hyde's campuses on any random day.  Ask about the number of kids on 2-4, those who have run from the school, those who were sent to outpost because they were having a hard time adjusting to Hyde, and those who drop out of Hyde.  Anyone familiar with Hyde, and who's honest about what happens there, knows for a fact that lots of kids have a hard time adjusting to Hyde's model.  That's a fact.  If you want hard numbers, I suggest you ask Malcolm Gauld for an exact count.  What are the chances you'll get full disclosure from him or anyone else at Hyde?

[Anonymous]

Waaaaaaaaa

[Anonymous]

I am a student at the Bath campus. I had a very similar experience to the father of the woodstock boy, I personally know him as well. Earlier this year I came to my dorm to find the girl who lived across the hall collapsed in the doorway of her room.I tried waking her but she was out cold. I rushed to the nurses station across the street and tried to express the emergency to the nurse on duty. She laughed and said I was exagerating the situation and refused to come and help. she wouldnt even let me use the phone to call Duty or an ambulance. I ended up calling the ambulance my self from my dorm phone and spending the next 5 hours in the hospital with the girl.

[Anonymous]

On 2006-05-22 10:32:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I am a student at the Bath campus. I had a very similar experience to the father of the woodstock boy, I personally know him as well. Earlier this year I came to my dorm to find the girl who lived across the hall collapsed in the doorway of her room.I tried waking her but she was out cold. I rushed to the nurses station across the street and tried to express the emergency to the nurse on duty. She laughed and said I was exagerating the situation and refused to come and help. she wouldnt even let me use the phone to call Duty or an ambulance. I ended up calling the ambulance my self from my dorm phone and spending the next 5 hours in the hospital with the girl."

What a tragic story.  Is this kind of mistrust of students typical at Hyde?  Did anything happen as a result?