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« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2005, 08:51:00 AM »
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"Funny we are talking about this.. That info-mercial about the book on natrual remedies is on. The man was discussing Prozak and told of a kid somewhere who killed a bunch of people while taking prozak.. He said drugs like this are the greatest crime against humanity! I agree. I really believe all these drugs are being made to harm us and they way we think, on purpose.



Sorry, I feel the same about alcohol. I have to think they kept it illegal because it makes you not think.. as where pot makes you think. So of course they can't have a bunch of thinking people out here in the world....Don't get me wrong, I drink a few times a year../shrug. But it's with this awareness."

And just when i thought it couldn't get any MORE half-baked, haha. i think it's all about $$, it usually is, isn't it? let's make some drugs to treat "disorders" and push it on the general public. all kinds of ppl take these fucking pills, not just "us," wd. :roll:

And the second bit there -- it prolly has MORE to do w/ hemp & the logging industry than it has to do w/ keeping the sacred herb illegal b/c it makes you think. fuck it, alcohol can MAKE YOU THINK TOO, on another level, though granted it does not work wonders for the temper or for operating motor vehicles...liver, etc. Pot ain't 100% GOOD for you either, unless you can afford to cook it into your food (thus avoiding damage to lung tissue) and get high that way. Enough of this conspiracy bs, it's about the almighty DOLLAR, it always HAS been, and it always WILL BE.
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« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2005, 08:53:00 AM »
ALSO, I meant to add that the alcohol industry does NOT wanna see pot legalized, for obvious reasons. Again, MONEY.
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« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2005, 01:03:00 PM »
Well, money is the lesser of the two evils here. It is easiest to believe and name. And quite possibly it is money that drives this whole thing (today), if everyone in this whole world suddenly realized this, the whole industry would fall. So ultimately it is absolute truth that is being suppressed. And I believe the world has to go through all this to make a global shift in thinking. We are thinking beings...There is a reason the world is what it is..and long before money it was something else. Power. Control over others. Today, that is managed through money, many years ago it was through ego. The true root of all evil or dis-ease.

BTW, Obviously us aren't the only people use use these manufactured (psycho-tropic,brain chemistry altering/suppressing) drugs....But it is people like us all over the world, people who think outside the box. These people are being suppressed for a reason. A reason we may not yet fully understand, but we are being targeted. Is it a conspiracy? Well, I don't think that. I just think it is part of the bigger plan of growth for this world. That you can't go up till you hit bottom theroy. And we all can see the world is crashing to the bottom all too quickly. I personally must believe it is for a greater good, or my purpose here would be nil.

Drugs that supposedly treat illness such as: heart disease, or heartburn etc.. , I believe too often make the problem worse or cause other problems which lead to further need for more prescribed medications, thus creating a circle in which we are encouraged to continue through many generations. Eventually altering our genetic make-up.

I am not even sure the people who perpetuate this, know that is what they are doing. Maybe they truely believe they are helping the world, just like some say about what they did in Straight (mainly staff, and parents). People are easily led, we all know this as fact. So I must ask myself what is driving those at the top? Who are they following? I don't even think they know.

It doesn't matter if anyone thinks like I do, I was asked, so I answered what I thought. I don't need your approval to believe in myself and the way I think of things. Just as you don't need mine. And that is what makes us great beings....Free will.

edit a spelling error! I am brainwashed you know, to care about how I spell, so it doesn't adversly affect others... :wink: [ This Message was edited by: Withdraw on 2005-12-14 10:05 ]
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« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2005, 02:38:00 PM »
Somebody else...
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« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2005, 02:52:00 PM »
Conspiracy? "From the bottom of any large organization looking up through the ranks, human greed and stupidity look a lot like a conspiracy."
--S. Gilbert

I think we're at a point in history where we're reaping the fruits (good and ill) of the industrial revolution. You can learn a whole lot about the original vision and intent of our masters by looking closely at our education system. John Taylor Gatto has done some excellent research into that. Here's one relavent chapter from his book:
http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/chapters/13g.htm

These are no dark, closely held secrets. The intent is quite clear and has always been stated plainly, but in publications and venues not usually read or readily accessible to us plebes. And you can thank those tie dyed hippie stoners who, early on, associated with that renegade John Perry Barlow @ The Well for forcing open a crack in that wall http://www.well.com/

All this fall-out, the psyche drugs and medical drugs that only make us sicker, the prohibitions on good stuff that helps us to be well, this is all, in my opinion, right in line w/ those imutable laws of nature. Specifically, the law of unintended consequences.

Yes, clearly, obviously and openly stated, 'they' set out to 'adjust' the culture and habits of our grandparents who were then the children of 'uncultured' agrarian immigrants. To the industrialists, independent thought among us unwashed masses was a big problem. In order to bring about their Utopia, their Chataqua, they had to supplant our independence, our native cultures, our un-uniformity. And so they have, to some degree. But I don't think it's a lost cause at all. I think the human spirit is just as strong and imutable as the horse spirit or the dog spirit or the bird spirit. In fact, I rather suspect we're all part of the same spirit. And that spirit is laughing now through our tears.

They say the road to hell is paved with good intentions. I'm rambling now, trying to find a way to say something that I think we all already know. Take, for example, a little boy or girl who cannot or will not sit quietly and pretend that the teacher is interesting and worthy of respect or that what she wants the kid to think about is worthy of their attention. That's a problem to someone who takes as a given the idea that schooling must take place for the sake of this child and all the others locked into that room till the pavlovian bell on the wall marks the end of this segment of their 12 year sentence. That problem, the problem of an independent, energetic child who instinctively withholds respect and attention unless someone earns it, can be solved in a number of ways. To the pedagog, it looks for all the world asif they've helped the kid and done a good thing by bringing about this change in the child's will or behavior or even belief.

Just another brick in the road to hell.

So yeah, it is, I think, a grand conspiracy to squash the good and natural and wonderful independent spirit in us. But we'll never convince the true believers of their guilt in this. They think it's a good thing to do to and for us. We just have to hook up w/ others who have recognized the evil in this plan and quit following the plan. That's all.

Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0807059099/circlofmiamithem' target='_new'>Mahatma Gandhi, My Autobigraphy, p. 446



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« Reply #35 on: December 14, 2005, 03:10:00 PM »
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« Reply #36 on: December 14, 2005, 03:21:00 PM »
Thanks, Ginger. I tend to think in a more of a cosmic way and find it difficult to explain my thoughts in a earthly/concrete manner.

As far as the Grande conspiracy, I beleive it is out-of-this world. I tend to believe we are but an end product of a larger devolpment. I know some may see that as far fetched, but I do not. This is also where I butt heads with many people here on so many topics. I don't know how to explain it, except through spirituality, which draws alot of debate here. And I have said it before, Debate is good and welcomed, it allows us all to grow. This is why I truly felt gratitude for those who oppose my views, this morning I could see how it forced me to get clear in myself about what my intentions are in this world. I am a spiritual being, I can not hide that, nor should I have to.

In a world of chaos, I must find a way to thrive and grow. This happenes to be my way, to believe what I do. I am not so diffrent from many people in the world who are trying to understand. I could go on citing proof and links of  other people who  are thinking like me and taking action, but I'm not trying to convince anyone here. I am just making my statement for my own personal growth and divine confirmation.
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« Reply #38 on: December 14, 2005, 04:04:00 PM »
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"Thanks, Ginger. I tend to think in a more of a cosmic way and find it difficult to explain my thoughts in a earthly/concrete manner.

WD, we live on earth....y'best get used to it. I suggest that you go emulsify an animal hide & think about what I said. Now git! :flame: :lol:
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« Reply #39 on: December 14, 2005, 04:04:00 PM »
Let's make drums!

After 3 years, I picked up my drum this morning and remembered what it meant to me. I will make a point to re-connect with my drum. Don't laugh! To a native person, their drum is sacred, and I have neglected the spirit in my drum. I remember making it and setting my intention to use it for healing. I remember thanking the animal who gave it's life. I will no longer neglect the animal in my drum, who came to me to assist me in healing. On the day I made it, this is what I wrote inside the rim: This day I claim my spirit as my one true possesion, NO ONE owns it or is responsible for it  other than me.

Thank you all, Everyone here has helped me remember Who I am.

No one laugh! LOL, I warned you I was different  :razz:
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« Reply #40 on: December 14, 2005, 04:06:00 PM »
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"Thanks, Ginger. I tend to think in a more of a cosmic way and find it difficult to explain my thoughts in a earthly/concrete manner.


WD, we live on earth....y'best get used to it. I suggest that you go emulsify an animal hide & think about what I said. Now git! :flame: :razz:
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« Reply #41 on: December 14, 2005, 04:08:00 PM »
PLEASE. We'll see how 'free of those bonds' you are when someone makes a drum out of YOUR hide. :grin:
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« Reply #42 on: December 14, 2005, 04:10:00 PM »
It's ok, stay in your pain. You apparently need more of it than me. Have a fine, fine day!
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« Reply #43 on: December 14, 2005, 04:10:00 PM »
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« Reply #44 on: December 14, 2005, 06:57:00 PM »
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"Holy Sheep Shit Ginger,



You're getting downright eloquent with those sermons. You ever consider starting a religion or a revolution or something?    "


Why thank you! I've thought of it. But I'm really sort of wating to see what happens w/ Rabbi Doperman's gig. Might be easier to just jump on his train, ya know? Plus, if it all goes horribly wrong, I was just a deluded follower, ya know? I was misguided, not culpable. But if I ever do start a religion, it'll have just one tenet:

so long as the universe had a beginning, we could suppose it had a creator. But if the universe is completely self-contained, having no boundary or edge, it would neither be created nor destroyed it would simply be. What place, then, for a creator?
--stephen Hawking, English scientist

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