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« Reply #1020 on: March 08, 2006, 12:56:00 PM »
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"Question:  Is he a child who is expected to make mistakes or is he an adult who should be able to make his own choices?  You can't have it both ways.  The aunts are right in that respect that certain things have never been answered here.  Lets see if this question is swiped under the rug and not acknowledged."


Society has it both those ways all the time.

At somewhere between ten and sixteen, most people become biologically adult in the sense of being able to make babies.  People ordinarily can't have their parental rights to their biological offspring signed away by their own parents no matter how young they are when they make a baby.

At 14, judges start ordinarily taking a person's request for which divorced parent he wants to live with.

At 16, someone can get a job without parents' permission, can usually get a drivers' license (although some states have changed some rules), can usually quit school without parents' permission, can frequently get an abortion without parental notification or consent.

At 17, someone can join the military *with* parental consent.

At 18, someone can join the military without parental consent, get a wider range of jobs with fewer restrictions, can legally make contracts, can move out and live wherever they want without parental consent, can marry without parental consent.

The age of sexual consent varies between sixteen and eighteen depending on the state.

In my home state, a girl as young as 14 can become an emancipated minor if she gets pregnant and gets parental consent to marry and marries.  From that moment, she's emancipated under the law.

In California, especially, there are emancipation of minors issues that revolve around kids in show business that have the clear ability to support themselves and have Mommy or Daddy trying to live big on junior's money.  Teenage actors or singers can and do get emancipated to get Mommy or Daddy's sticky fingers out of the kid's bank account.

At 21, someone can drink legally.

Adulthood has just about always been a gradual process of increasing rights and responsibilities, and increasing numbers of areas where the person becomes legally able to go against one or both parents' wishes.

And, of course, in the matter of crimes, whether an accused is tried and punished (if convicted) in the adult or juvenile justice system depends a whole lot on the details of the alleged offense.

For the justice system, a person isn't either absolutely a kid or absolutely an adult---it depends on what act or decision you're talking about and the particulars surrounding it.

Our society "has it both ways" all the time on how much of an adult a person is between the ages of 14 and 21.

Julie
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« Reply #1021 on: March 08, 2006, 01:16:00 PM »
By the way, I'm thrilled that Alex is out of that (allegedly, allegedly!) hellhole and living free.

I wish him luck with his court date and all the best as he goes on with his life.

Alex, even if your court date works out as the worst case, which I doubt it will, another poster was right in saying that in the big picture of your whole life, it's a small mess.

Well, a felony charge isn't all that small, but as felonies go, this is small and something you *can* easily choose to move on from.

What's the old saying, today is the first day of the rest of your life?

I'm glad you're out and free.

Best wishes with your life now as you move on and decide what you want to do with it.

Even if the worst case happens and you end up having to do a little time in jail, you can use it studying for your GED or whatever other school options you plan on pursuing.  You'll at least get visitors and get your mail.

Hopefully, they'll go easier on you than that and you won't have to go at all.  Maybe you'll get community service or something, or even beat the rap.

Either way, now that you're out of that place, and among friends who are obviously good people, you're gonna be okay.

Best of luck.

Julie
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« Reply #1022 on: March 08, 2006, 02:47:00 PM »
We had the "get right" room at VCA.  You know, like "get right with God."  How creepy is that?

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"In Straight it was the Timeout Room or TR, in Elan it was the corner (litterally, they'd sit w/ their faces in the corner for hours or days)... I think it may have been the Roloff ones that called it the quiet room...



Same shit, different dressing. Even a pickle on the side won't help.

Every sensible man, every honorable man, must hold the Christian sect in horror.
--Francois Marie Arouet "Voltaire", French author and playwright


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« Reply #1023 on: March 08, 2006, 03:15:00 PM »
I think when I was at Cross Creek it was called TIME OUT.

At Heritage it was called CRISIS!


hahahahahahahaha :lol:
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« Reply #1024 on: March 09, 2006, 12:48:00 AM »
It got awfully quiet!!!!!!! It's kinda nice though. Those Aunties of his can go back to their boiling caldron.

 :lol:
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« Reply #1025 on: March 09, 2006, 11:16:00 AM »
Know what's really nice? The only two threads in this forum to have been bumped since this time yesterday are about rescued kids.

Can you believe it? Feels good! Everybody daydreamed about this when they were stuck in their gulags. This is so cool! I wonder how many hundreds or thousands of such stories I'll read before it gets blase.

What kind of humanism expresses its reluctance to sacrifice military casualties by devastating the civilian economy of its adversary for decades to come?  
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« Reply #1026 on: March 11, 2006, 09:16:00 AM »
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The answer to your question, he is a child, that is quickly becoming an adult. He should be able to make his own choices, and nobody is perfect, and we ALL make mistakes!!!! So, he is expected to make a few mistakes along the way. The most important thing when someone makes a mistake............did you learn from it? If you are making the same mistake over, and over, and over..........then something is wrong?!! But, most of us learn from our mistakes.
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Make his own choices, when he gets his own place to live that he pays for. Guess he cant because even if he had his own apartment there are still rules.
And you know he hasn't made them over and over?

How about this! He is a young adult that will make mistakes and hopefully learn from them. He still needs some guidance. Guidance from his parents that know him best. Not someone who has known him for only 7 months this person sounds like a easy push over.
Problem one sounds to me like someone is getting to involved and hasn't let the parents and Alex have time together. Had to rush right over. They have known him for like 7 months but they know what is better for him then his parents?  LOL  They are strange people.

Good luck Alex! Don't live with girl friend not a good idea. Work it out Alex I am sure they are not the only ones that like you. Get you balls out of your girl friends purse and become a man. You do not have to do what she wants you to do I want you to do what you want or what feels right to you. You are the one that will pay for anything that can happen It is your choice. Sounds to me like you need a new start.
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« Reply #1027 on: March 11, 2006, 09:27:00 AM »
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On 2006-03-08 21:48:00, CCM girl 1989 wrote:

"It got awfully quiet!!!!!!! It's kinda nice though. Those Aunties of his can go back to their boiling caldron.



 :lol: "


Your such a BITCH you knew I was on vacation. But I am back guess what it may stay quite. Back to our boiling caldron? Ya I am the bad Auntie sorry but you still have no idea half of what has happen.
I can see why step mommy had you sent away!
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« Reply #1028 on: March 11, 2006, 09:36:00 AM »
Yes, it was nice.
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« Reply #1029 on: March 11, 2006, 10:50:00 AM »
How about this! He is a young adult that will make mistakes and hopefully learn from them. He still needs some guidance. Guidance from his parents that know him best. Not someone who has known him for only 7 months this person sounds like a easy push over.

Problem one sounds to me like someone is getting to involved and hasn't let the parents and Alex have time together. Had to rush right over. They have known him for like 7 months but they know what is better for him then his parents?  LOL  They are strange people.



Good luck Alex! Don't live with girl friend not a good idea. Work it out Alex I am sure they are not the only ones that like you. Get you balls out of your girl friends purse and become a man. You do not have to do what she wants you to do I want you to do what you want or what feels right to you. You are the one that will pay for anything that can happen It is your choice. Sounds to me like you need a new start."

Great post to the person who wrote this.  I couldn't of said it better myself.  Unfortunately, it won't be appreciated here.  Welcome back Pam.  Hope you had a great time.  Well, back to casting spells.
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« Reply #1030 on: March 11, 2006, 10:52:00 AM »
I want you to do what you want or what feels right to you. You are the one that will pay for anything that can happen It is your choice. Sounds to me like you need a new start."


Read it again!!
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« Reply #1031 on: March 11, 2006, 01:17:00 PM »
::bwahaha::
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« Reply #1032 on: March 11, 2006, 02:39:00 PM »
yes your right.  I'll get bombed for this, but look at 107 pages of posts.  The young man needs to not only find his way, he needs to be accountable for his dicisions. He has no respect from anyone, feels all alone, and family re-gurgitates his past.  He would be really pissed to see this entire post.  He needs active family/people, to have a heart to heart with him. And tell him it WILL be hard. This entire post is an example of why he's where he's at.  He needs: #1 love, #2 self-respect, #3 to have the ability to earn it from family/friends.  This thread is about the same ol, same ol.  If your concerened, get over yourselves,and talk to the young man, and fulfill his real needs.  I honestly think he needs time away from all of you all, to discover himself, which has been deprived.  That will not happen through a "normal" family setting, unless you all have got it together.  The same ol won't work.  I don't know him, but I empahtise.  So either be a part of the solution, or remain the problem. He will eventually decide for himself, good or bad. Now is your time, to help. If not, get out of the way.
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« Reply #1033 on: March 11, 2006, 02:41:00 PM »
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How about this! He is a young adult that will make mistakes and hopefully learn from them. He still needs some guidance. Guidance from his parents that know him best.


How about this; never take advice and guidance from someone who has paid to have you kidnapped and held captive in a remote compound run by creepy cult people.

When I started as a federal narcotics agent, the budget that we were working with, it was less than $5 million a year, and there was only 125 agents for the entire world to work the narcotic trade that we were fighting in those days.  Times have changed.  The gluttony has grown.
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« Reply #1034 on: March 11, 2006, 02:46:00 PM »
Eudora, what part offended you? What part have you contrubuted to helping the young man? Other than your past experiences.  If you can't bring anything to the table, then get off.  This is where your forum is screwed up.  A narrow minded mentality.
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