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« Reply #600 on: January 12, 2006, 12:03:00 PM »
"Geez, cant trust anything on the internet. Narconon is a scam also from what I've read. Maybe local hospitals? Who do you trust?"

Yes, please try to start locally.  Alex most likely has underlying issues which are leading to this drastic risk-taking behavior.  A local therapist, psychiatrist, or md should be able to help you find a placement.  

Reputable programs should be willing to take insurance and/or work on a sliding scale.

Alex needs to be evaluated by a professional who can help discern his needs and any underlying issues.
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« Reply #601 on: January 12, 2006, 01:15:00 PM »
Hi everyone,

I just came across this in my Families Anonymous literature. Some of it really rang true for me and I thought I'd share.

An Open Letter to My Family:

I am a drug-abuser. I need help.

Don't solve my problems for me. This only makes me lose respect for you?and for myself.

Don't lecture, moralize, scold, blame, or argue whether I'm stoned or sober. It may make you feel better, but it only makes the situation worse.

Don't accept my promises. The nature of my illness prevents my keeping them, even though I mean them at the time. Promises are only my way of postponing pain. And don't keep switching agreements; if an agreement is made, stick to it.

Don't lose your temper with me. It will destroy you and any possibility of helping me.

Don't let your anxiety for me make you do what I should do for myself.

Don't believe everything I tell you. Often I don't even know the truth ? let alone tell it.

Don't cover up or try to spare me the consequences of my using. It may reduce the crisis, but it will make my illness worse.

Above all, don't run away from reality as I do. Drug dependence, my illness, gets worse as my using continues.

Start now to learn, to understand, to play for recovery. Find Families Anonymous, whose groups exist to help families in just your situation.

I need help ? from a doctor, a psychologist, a counselor, from some people in a self-help program who've recovered from a drug problem themselvers ? and from a Power great than myself.

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I think keeping ourselves from protecting our kids from natural consequences is often the hardest of all.  We want to protect them, keep them from getting a record or from going to jail....sometimes it takes a hard reality check to wake people up and make them want to change.
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« Reply #602 on: January 12, 2006, 01:27:00 PM »
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On 2006-01-11 19:37:00, Shlee wrote:

"This is wonderful!  This is exactly what Alex and I wanted from day 1, open-ended communication and consideration of each other.  Alex would be and WILL be proud.  Also, yes I am in complete support of in-patient treatment.  I don't even care if we have contact for that 30 days so long I know where he is, he's getting treated right, it's what he wants and he'll come out of it a better person.  Please, let me be the last person anyone thinks about, let Alex get home and be safe...Thank you for finally understanding, I appreciate every second you listen."
Maybe your not such a bad influence as we all thought Ashley.  Your response above is very insightful.  I hope this continues when Alex comes home.
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« Reply #603 on: January 12, 2006, 03:33:00 PM »
Thank you for that, it's nice to see Alex's best interest being considered.  Also, I like the avatar choice.  It's a very good anime.  Cute, little Trigun kitty!
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« Reply #604 on: January 12, 2006, 06:06:00 PM »
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On 2006-01-12 10:15:00, Sylvia wrote:

"Hi everyone,



I just came across this in my Families Anonymous literature. Some of it really rang true for me and I thought I'd share.



An Open Letter to My Family:



I am a drug-abuser. I need help.
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Yup, that certainly sounds like a good first step toward quitting and abstaining from your family.

I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life, I absenteed myself from Christian assemblies.
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« Reply #605 on: January 16, 2006, 09:55:00 AM »
Any word on if Alex came home or not?  It was beginning to sound pretty positive, but then nothing.  Maybe no news is good news?
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« Reply #606 on: January 16, 2006, 10:43:00 AM »
I just sort of assume these folks are talking to each other directly now so they don't need this venue anymore.

Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet.
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« Reply #607 on: January 16, 2006, 11:15:00 AM »
We are talking in emails and on the phone. It has been nice to have the communication opened. Alex is not home yet but he is doing fine.
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« Reply #608 on: January 16, 2006, 11:18:00 AM »
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On 2006-01-16 08:15:00, CaughtInTheMiddle wrote:

"We are talking in emails and on the phone. It has been nice to have the communication opened. Alex is not home yet but he is doing fine."


CIM,

Did you get my email today? Could you please give me an update.

Leslie
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« Reply #609 on: January 16, 2006, 12:59:00 PM »
I just checked email it is there. I will call later. Maybe on my next brake.
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« Reply #610 on: January 16, 2006, 01:38:00 PM »
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On 2006-01-16 07:43:00, Antigen wrote:

"I just sort of assume these folks are talking to each other directly now so they don't need this venue anymore.

Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet.
--Napoleon Bonaparte, French emperor


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I agree, but I also want to know the outcome of this whole thing! It's also interesting to read a play by play of what goes on when you decide you have made a mistake by placing your child in a WWASP facility then taking control of the situation by taking them out.
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« Reply #611 on: January 16, 2006, 03:08:00 PM »
Yeah, I'd like to know too.

All who doubted or denied would be lost. To live a moral and honest life -- to keep your contracts, to take care of wife and child -- to make a happy home -- to be a good citizen, a patriot, a just and thoughtful man, was simply a respectable way of going to hell.
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« Reply #612 on: January 16, 2006, 04:04:00 PM »
All the places that have been checked on for Alex are not what they seem.  Everyone is still working on what is best for him.  Ashley, I do want to continue to communicate with you.  I don't want to lose what we have so far gained.  Even though he is still there, they have a few safeguards set up to help with his safety.  He has not been abandoned there like so many of the kids are.  They do have a private doctor going to the school twice per week for therapy.  He is doing pretty well, although he is still angry that he did not get to see you before he left. He did have a private psychological exam and was very open about things.  He is also in a drug program. He does have phone time with is family regularly. I know it is hard not knowing and worrying about him.  I will do my best to help alleviate those feelings by talking with you anytime.  He has now been drug free for six weeks.  That is something no matter what anyone says.  It may not be the ideal place, but he really seems to be using the time there to his advantage.
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« Reply #613 on: January 16, 2006, 05:20:00 PM »
I doubt Alex will leaving WWASPS anytime soon. In spite of all the negative information about the program posted here and acknowledged by family members, he is still there.

The excuse is that all the other alternatives are 'not what they seem?' But, it seems to me anything would be better, including just bringing the boy home, than keeping him in SCL.

We are now hearing about how well he is doing there. So, I just have the gut feeling...

My guess is that he is currently in Jamaica to avoid his escape at age 18.

But then again, I am a pessimist.
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« Reply #614 on: January 16, 2006, 05:39:00 PM »
I am not the person who is able to move him anywhere.  He is still at SCL.  Other places closer to home explored have been deplorable.
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