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« Reply #75 on: December 15, 2005, 11:18:00 PM »
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Yea, keep us posted on his remarkable improvement.  By the way, did he attend his trial today?"

      As for the trial, no he didn't.  His parents' attorney (he can't be considered Alex's for he never even told the poor kid his rights let alone act like a real attorney and tell his client his options aside from this school or prison, and was fired by Alex, but, his parents re-hired him) came in and told the judge his client couldn't make it and needed to reschedule.  The reschedule date is for January 31st.  And pray tell, exactly how long can you postpone a court date?  How many more games of ring-around-the-rosy are we going to have to play before somebody begins to catch on?
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« Reply #76 on: December 15, 2005, 11:41:00 PM »
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As for the trial, no he didn't. His parents' attorney (he can't be considered Alex's for he never even told the poor kid his rights let alone act like a real attorney and tell his client his options aside from this school or prison, and was fired by Alex, but, his parents re-hired him) came in and told the judge his client couldn't make it and needed to reschedule. The reschedule date is for January 31st. And pray tell, exactly how long can you postpone a court date? How many more games of ring-around-the-rosy are we going to have to play before somebody begins to catch on?


Like I said, the parents have zero integrity. They shield Alex from taking responsibility and being accountable for this own actions and lock him in a private prison that advertises itself as a place where kids are taught to take responisbility and be accountable. These control freak hypocrites and WWASPS are perfect for each other. With parents like these, Alex never had a chance.[ This Message was edited by: AtomicAnt on 2005-12-15 20:43 ]
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« Reply #77 on: December 15, 2005, 11:50:00 PM »
To the parents and family friends of Alex...what do you think you are going to achieve and fix in 6 months that you couldn't in 17 years??
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« Reply #78 on: December 16, 2005, 12:19:00 AM »
This is some serious human rights stuff we are talking about here. There is plenty to do in terms of ending the unlawful and inhumane treatment of the kids in any "program" despite their behavior and problems. There needs to be some new federal regulations SPELLED OUT clearly of the rights and responsibilities of the parents, kids, and employees in or involved in these "programs" in the USA or not. There needs to be mandatory laws that inform the kids 18 or not, of their complete rights and options as USA citizens, especially in foreign countries.
Every current law needs to be reviewed and new laws need to be made for the complete, humane, and benefit of the kids. This all should be reviewed by non-biased lawyers, legislators, and representatives of all sorts. By unbiased I mean not brainwashed or paid-off in any which way. Yes some these kids have problems, but brainwashing and intimidation of all sorts needs to end, NOW. There needs to be proper guidelines specifically defining what can and connot happen no matter how problem-ridden a kid is, no matter what country they are in. They are USA citizens, kids, kids some of who just need time and the right environment to see the light... nothing like which goes on in these "programs."

This effort for the good of humanity will take you, me, and every good hearted person to step up and not put up with anymore of this ridiculous crap that we face every day in many forms, but specifically in terms of human rights and "programs."

Keep spreading the truthful word, keep researching the truth about what goes on, keep sharing it, write representatives or get in contact with who you can, use your powers: if you are a writer, reporter, or newscaster, get and honest story out.

#My suggestion is that we set up a web site focusuing on human rights and the acts against it, specifically these "progams." Through this specific site (which should be dedicated to the truth, include detailed information regarding other options for parents and their kids besides "programs" and may include selling t-shirts and coffee mugs supporting the site) good people will be able to share information and more easily progress in our effort. There are many possibilities. We need an effort, web designers, supporters, people knowlegale in law and research. The truth must be spread, changes need to be made.
Anyone with me?

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« Reply #79 on: December 16, 2005, 01:51:00 PM »
There was nothing wrong with him for 17 years...he was acting find untill he met the wrong people, which I dunno was 2 years ago?
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« Reply #80 on: December 16, 2005, 02:06:00 PM »
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"There was nothing wrong with him for 17 years...he was acting find untill he met the wrong people, which I dunno was 2 years ago?"

  Oh, so I guess dipping into his mom's pot stash and Vicodin script when he was 13 doesn't mean anything, right?  Or when he started smoking cigarrettes at 12? Or smoking pot everyday over the summer in 9th and 10th grade with a couple friends named Ed and Chuck? And, oh, the stories I've heard from the school Arts Academy, not just from him, but from a few friends that he met there that I've spoken with personally. Probably the same ones that were in jail with him for 6 days...guess his parents know how to pick THE BEST schools, right?

     And by the way, "until" has only one L.
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« Reply #81 on: December 16, 2005, 02:27:00 PM »
So he gets sent away and mindfucked for 6 months only to return to charges and possible punishment? WTF is the reasoning behind that?
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« Reply #82 on: December 16, 2005, 02:40:00 PM »
Court was postponed for other reasons. To set the record straight he didn't try to jump off a bridge to call Ashley. The escorts called to let his parents know they landed. He talked to his mom, then the escorts asked her if he could call his girlfriend that it was up to her she said yes. Then you go and vandalize her house and vehicle. As for Ashley's mom. You need to close your eye to Alex and open them to your own child. How quickly you forget she is the one who introduced him to these drugs and the drug dealer. If they both get help maybe they will have a healthier life together. Who knows Maybe you are one of the mom's who dose drugs with there kids and there friends. I don't know of any parent who would pay for the daughter to have there senior pictures taken at a graveyard? What kind of sick people are you? Sounds to me like you do what ever you can to make your daughter happy so she is easier to live with.( i.e. bringing Alex home to her.) If you 2 would have let them handle this as a family and stayed out of it he may not even be where he is. Every time they talked and was getting somewhere Ashley would call get him worked up then he would just start yelling. Just like him firing his lawyer wonder where he got that from? I would say too much impute from you. If one of my daughters friends came to me with all this going on. Sure I would have let them stay with me but I would have been telling them that there family loves them and this is something they have to work out as a family. Then I would have sent them home. Not try to teach them how to beat the system or try to do what works better for my daughter. I have heard his letters he is doing good and is not suicidal. I feel sorry for all the people who believe all the crap that comes out of these peoples mouths.
I am sure you will try to turn it all around to justify what you are doing but the bottom line is you should worry about your daughter and leave other peoples kids alone. Alex has a loving family and has had a better life then most so don't you worry about it.

Alex's Aunt  :wave:
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« Reply #83 on: December 16, 2005, 03:02:00 PM »
Court was postponed for other reasons. To set the record straight he didn't try to jump off a bridge to call Ashley. The escorts called to let his parents know they landed. He talked to his mom, then the escorts asked her if he could call his girlfriend that it was up to her she said yes. Then you go and vandalize her house and vehicle. As for Ashley's mom. You need to close your eye to Alex and open them to your own child. How quickly you forget she is the one who introduced him to these drugs and the drug dealer. If they both get help maybe they will have a healthier life together. Who knows Maybe you are one of the mom's who dose drugs with there kids and there friends. I don't know of any parent who would pay for the daughter to have there senior pictures taken at a graveyard? What kind of sick people are you? Sounds to me like you do what ever you can to make your daughter happy so she is easier to live with.( i.e. bringing Alex home to her.) If you 2 would have let them handle this as a family and stayed out of it he may not even be where he is. Every time they talked and was getting somewhere Ashley would call get him worked up then he would just start yelling. Just like him firing his lawyer wonder where he got that from? I would say too much impute from you. If one of my daughters friends came to me with all this going on. Sure I would have let them stay with me but I would have been telling them that there family loves them and this is something they have to work out as a family. Then I would have sent them home. Not try to teach them how to beat the system or try to do what works better for my daughter. I have heard his letters he is doing good and is not suicidal. I feel sorry for all the people who believe all the crap that comes out of these peoples mouths.
I am sure you will try to turn it all around to justify what you are doing but the bottom line is you should worry about your daughter and leave other peoples kids alone. Alex has a loving family and has had a better life then most so don't you worry about it.

One of Alex's Aunts  :wave:
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« Reply #84 on: December 16, 2005, 03:04:00 PM »
Maybe if you read it twice you will get something
out of it.   :lol:
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« Reply #85 on: December 16, 2005, 03:04:00 PM »
Unfortunately the bridge incident is true.  He  told us himself, and so did the escort.  The vadalism was quite obviously someone else considering Ashley worked that night and then was home with her mother and father all night.  Granted the dealer worked with Ashley, but Alex met him all on his own.  
   I find it quite entertaining how one can brush off so easily the post containing history of his mothers drug problem too.  And from what I remember, Alex was willing to come home on a Friday night but his mother called and said no come tomorrow instead.  Then when he was home, everyone pretended like like nothing happenned and everything was fien.  No discussion was had.  
     And how does one assume that telling Alex to get a different lawyer so he is not biased telling him to beat the system.  I would think of that as trying to get the system to work for you.  I would assume that his parents are trying to beat the system by using a biased lawyer and hiding him in a different state.  Also working it out as a family must mean shipping him away for someone else to deal with and only associate with him through letters.  
     Anyone that wants to worry about the situation can worry about it as numerous other people on this forum have stated.
    And a great life definitely includes a mother who put him down sarcastically his whole life and a father who was there but never took an interest.  That's what I call love alright...
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« Reply #86 on: December 16, 2005, 03:16:00 PM »
Yes...free him, because he is a very good kid and no one deserves treatment like he is (no doubt) going through.
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« Reply #87 on: December 16, 2005, 03:22:00 PM »
He should be free to make his own decisions. Let him go. He doesnt deserve this.
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« Reply #88 on: December 16, 2005, 04:15:00 PM »
of course you believe everything a teenager tells you about their parents. open your eyes to all of the lies and manipulation
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« Reply #89 on: December 16, 2005, 04:35:00 PM »
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"of course you believe everything a teenager tells you about their parents. open your eyes to all of the lies and manipulation"

  Wht exactly, pray tell, are all the lies and manipulation??  
  I can see you're the perfect program parents already...lies, manipulation?  You haven't even been to a seminar and you seem to be able to use their vocabulary perfect! Congratulations...no training needed for you. Maybe you can get a job working for WWASPS and then you won't have to pay for his abuse AND you can give it to him yourselves!
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